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Bjørn Magnhildøen

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Oct 4, 2007, 12:05:51 PM10/4/07
to noemata-g
everything is done with the tip of a finger
now, who's finger is this?

when we were at school they said clean up after you
now we're teached to mess around on the net

from now on everything will be monolithic, like time.
before, it wasn't monolithic (the everything)
it was more like a load of laundry in the machine
but now, everything will straighten out
later on, everything will be a mess again
the mind is a monolith i was going to say but
let's take it from the other end
order out of chaos
the purpose like chaos and the reason like order
i believe the opposite is the common notion
would it really help the starving children?
the chaos of reason
the order of purpose
i don't know which world is biggest - the past or the future
the past has its reasons but the future has its purpose
i have to come back and forward to this
getting a cold maybe or two or three

Dirk Vekemans

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Oct 5, 2007, 7:19:34 AM10/5/07
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- no one thing has anything to do with any other

things are coded fictions hanging in a dark cave out of which no escape
is possible. The cave itself is such a fiction.
the road to reality is through penrose, straight through because

We make a mess people starve
We don't make a mess people starve (next to our mess)
What does it say about our mess: it's a mess
What does it say about people : they starve

- Everything happening is connected

the past obliterates the future in the future of the past
the future obliterates the past as an impossible present
any 'thing' you do is determined by it, whatever your purpose is
you will always at any time be reducible to a determination through
a perceived past. But there can be no answers here, only directions
i.e. questions because any perception is an ongoing 'thing'too,
it takes time so it adds more past to the present so

We are making a mess while people are starving


- what can be done?

Keep making a mess
(regardless of fictitious finalities)
Try to get people out of the habit of starving
(we already have more than enough mess as it is)
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