new version 0.6.4 magic number was blocked in CHINA

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fengmk2

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Dec 3, 2011, 10:44:18 AM12/3/11
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because the number "64" have been filtered by CHINA GFW.
The new nodejs version 0.6.4 has cause nodejs.org blocked in China.

Our chinese nodejs developers visit nodejs.org website is RESET now!

Please help us, change the version number quickly!

ps: the "89" magic number will cause the same problem too.
so the future version 0.8.9 should be avoid.

Please help us, and fuck the GFW!

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Dave Clements

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Dec 3, 2011, 12:03:26 PM12/3/11
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...what about sites about 64bit operating systems?

Diogo Resende

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Ultrasurf should be your friend :)

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Marak Squires

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Dec 3, 2011, 2:54:17 PM12/3/11
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Apologies for my American ignorance. 

What is the significance of these numerical values which cause them to be "magic numbers" and subsequently banned?


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Wayne Douglas

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Marak Squires

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Really?

Wayne Douglas

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The Chinese gov dont acknowledge what they did and they want as few people in China to know about it.

Marak Squires

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Ignoring any of the political aspects, banning arbitrary numbers is insane

Benjamin Gudehus

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Dec 3, 2011, 3:30:57 PM12/3/11
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Now we know why the number 89 is bannen.

But why the number 64? I asked my chinese roommate, but he didn't know the answer.


2011/12/3 Marak Squires <marak....@gmail.com>

Jann Horn

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2011/12/3 Benjamin Gudehus <hast...@googlemail.com>:

> Now we know why the number 89 is bannen.
>
> But why the number 64? I asked my chinese roommate, but he didn't know the
> answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989

"The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, also known as the June Fourth Incident"

Year: 89
Date: 6/4

ben

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Benjamin Gudehus

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It was on June, 5th. That gives the number 65...?

2011/12/3 Benjamin Gudehus <hast...@googlemail.com>

Benjamin Gudehus

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Ah, I see, thanks!

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Diogo Resende

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On 4 June 2007, the anniversary of the massacre, a notice reading,
"Paying tribute to the strongwilled mothers of 64"

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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:13 +0100, Benjamin Gudehus wrote:
> Ah, I see, thanks!
>
> 2011/12/3 Jann Horn
>

>> 2011/12/3 Benjamin Gudehus :


>>
>>> Now we know why the number 89 is bannen.
>> >
>> > But why the number 64? I asked my chinese roommate, but he didn't
>> know the
>> > answer.
>>

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989 [2]


>>
>> "The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, also known as the June
>> Fourth Incident"
>>
>> Year: 89
>> Date: 6/4
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When a human is insane it probably will function.

When a society is insane it almost always functions; there are no
other kinds.


On Dec 3, 12:13 pm, Marak Squires <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ignoring any of the political aspects, banning arbitrary numbers is *insane*
> .


>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Wayne Douglas <wa...@prjatk.com> wrote:
> > The Chinese gov dont acknowledge what they did and they want as few people
> > in China to know about it.

> > On Dec 3, 2011 8:03 PM, "Marak Squires" <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Really?
>
> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Wayne Douglas <wa...@prjatk.com> wrote:
>
> >>>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square

> >>> On Dec 3, 2011 7:54 PM, "Marak Squires" <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Apologies for my American ignorance.
>
> >>>> What is the significance of these numerical values which cause them to
> >>>> be "magic numbers" and subsequently banned?
>

> >>>> marak.squi...@gmail.com

> >> marak.squi...@gmail.com

> marak.squi...@gmail.com

Number 9

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Yes I love this aspect of humanity.

Like when they don't have 13th floors in buildings because the nights
templar were massacred on a certain day.
And who could forget the Intel® Pentium® III Processor 667 MHz because
if you number a processor 666 a beast will rise and mark eveyone on
there hands or foreheads.
(Apparently)


On Dec 3, 8:13 pm, Marak Squires <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ignoring any of the political aspects, banning arbitrary numbers is *insane*
> .


>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Wayne Douglas <wa...@prjatk.com> wrote:
> > The Chinese gov dont acknowledge what they did and they want as few people
> > in China to know about it.

> > On Dec 3, 2011 8:03 PM, "Marak Squires" <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Really?
>
> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Wayne Douglas <wa...@prjatk.com> wrote:
>
> >>>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square

> >>> On Dec 3, 2011 7:54 PM, "Marak Squires" <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Apologies for my American ignorance.
>
> >>>> What is the significance of these numerical values which cause them to
> >>>> be "magic numbers" and subsequently banned?
>

> >>>> marak.squi...@gmail.com

> >> marak.squi...@gmail.com

> marak.squi...@gmail.com

Mark Hahn

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Dec 3, 2011, 5:55:52 PM12/3/11
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And who could forget the Intel® Pentium® III Processor 667 MHz because
if you number a processor 666 a beast will rise and mark eveyone on
there hands or foreheads. 

Actually it was 666.66... MHz (1.5 ns clock) which does round off to 667.  No marketing person is going to give up a MHz.

Thomas Shinnick

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Dec 3, 2011, 6:07:54 PM12/3/11
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If possible, create a
    nodejs.org/dist/cn/
and populate with renamed files, e.g.
    node-v0.6.4.tar.gz     -->  node-20111202.tar.gz

Normally a designation of 'cn' would imply something about translation.  Here it would be a different sort of translation....

Insanity:
  because of TianAnMen, the Berlin Wall _could_ fall;
  because the Berlin Wall _did_ fall, TianAnMen can not be acknowledged

Bry

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Dec 3, 2011, 6:18:06 PM12/3/11
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Why is China doing this? Node has done nothing wrong.

Cliffano Subagio

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Dec 3, 2011, 6:20:15 PM12/3/11
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"Please help us, change the version number quickly!
ps: the "89" magic number will cause the same problem too.
so the future version 0.8.9 should be avoid."

Instead of changing or avoiding version numbers, why not have a 'latest' version that is pointing to whatever the latest version is? So that masks the version number via http://nodejs.org/dist/latest/latest.ext .

Surely the filter in China doesn't inspect the content of the file for any existence of 64 or 89.



Benjamin Gudehus

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Dec 3, 2011, 6:21:13 PM12/3/11
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Or node-zero-six-four.tar.gz.

2011/12/4 Thomas Shinnick <tshi...@gmail.com>

Belleve Invis

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Dec 3, 2011, 8:20:51 PM12/3/11
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You are probably wrong. Python.org/download (shortest essential URL)
is blocked in 15th Sep. 2009, but Python 2.6.4 is released on 25th.
Ergo version number is not the key reason.

Also jQuery and JRuby also released v1.6.4 SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, nothing
happened to their site.

As for avoiding, I choose to use "latest" instead of ver. numbers.

On Dec 3, 11:44 pm, fengmk2 <feng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> because ...

Bruce Li

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Dec 3, 2011, 8:33:58 PM12/3/11
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I can still access the site without a problem, I'm a China Telecom user from Xi'an, China. But as a professional developer in China, VPN or SSH is a must for living...

mscdex

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On Dec 3, 8:20 pm, Belleve Invis <typeof....@gmail.com> wrote:
> As for avoiding, I choose to use "latest" instead of ver. numbers.

For Windows users, you can always get at the latest stable standalone
binary via: http://nodejs.org/dist/latest/node.exe

Hsu Ping Feng

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Dec 3, 2011, 9:31:11 PM12/3/11
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I think the rules of the GFW are based on ip and domain name, so the whole site was banned. Since all outgoing accesses were through the GFW, the only way now is to use secured proxies outside of the GFW.

2011/12/4 mscdex <msc...@gmail.com>
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I am a Chinese programmer and I have to say, we cannot make the
judgement that nodejs.org is blocked in China. Only quite a few
persons cannot open the site. We shouldn't be that sensitive and lead
the topic even more political.

GFW is really INSANE, but this is not the right place to fuck it.

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Yi Tan

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+1
tested by mates in shanghai, guangzhou (china telecom, mobile), beijing(unicom). all accesses to nodejs.org are fine.

it might be a issue with hangzhou local isp. and i wonder since you can use gmail, you could visitnodejs via your proxy.

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I would definitly block nr. 69.. :P


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Dean Landolt

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On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:44 AM, fengmk2 <fen...@gmail.com> wrote:
because the number "64" have been filtered by CHINA GFW.
The new nodejs version 0.6.4 has cause nodejs.org blocked in China.

Our chinese nodejs developers visit nodejs.org website is RESET now!

Please help us, change the version number quickly!

ps: the "89" magic number will cause the same problem too.
so the future version 0.8.9 should be avoid.

Please help us, and fuck the GFW!


<troll>

Obviously the only long term solution is for you to move to a freedom-loving country like Amurica that would never think of censoring the internets.

Tim Becker

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On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 00:18, Bry <brandon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is China doing this? Node has done nothing wrong.

You'll just have to suck it up and live with it. Dealing with China is
nearly as bad as dealing with Apple. If they say you've got a bug,
you've got a bug and they won't allow you in the AppStore, even if
you've got proof it's in their API :)

Bosn Ma

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however, it will make network very slow...

but really better than 404 error page.

Yang Ye

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Dec 6, 2011, 10:43:12 AM12/6/11
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The thing with GFW is that it is simply based on text filtering. Once it find a key words (with a bit smart in 64 or six four or six 4 perhaps), it will reset the connection.

And it makes initial loading google homepage or gmail very slow but once connected, speed becomes normal and may go wrong some time later.

We live with it when we are inside the border.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Bosn Ma <mrb...@gmail.com> wrote:
however, it will make network very slow...

but really better than 404 error page.

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Dec 6, 2011, 7:37:59 PM12/6/11
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Feel free to issue them a green card ;-)

cayasso

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Node is 0.6.5 now, so I guess this is no longer an issue?
http://blog.nodejs.org/2011/12/04/node-v0-6-5/

JB

Cooper Du

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Dec 6, 2011, 10:05:05 PM12/6/11
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i don't know about this.

but in china, 64bit cpu aliased as double 32bit cpu.

On Dec 4, 1:03 am, Dave Clements <huperekch...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ...what about sites about 64bit operating systems?

Arunkumar Velusamy

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Hai,

please any one tell me how to do the association in sequelize. give with example. or how to join two table in sequelize

Regards,

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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Bosn Ma <mrb...@gmail.com> wrote:
however, it will make network very slow...

but really better than 404 error page.

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