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tjholowaychuk
Jul 11, 2010, 12:23:10 PM7/11/10
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The kiwi package manager that I wrote is no longer actively developed.
I am letting everyone know that
the server will still be up and operational for quite some time,
however npm is "stable" now so I would
recommend that people start utilizing it if it works for them. My
personal projects that are on kiwi
will still get new released for quite a while as well, just letting
everyone know :)
I am letting everyone know that
the server will still be up and operational for quite some time,
however npm is "stable" now so I would
recommend that people start utilizing it if it works for them. My
personal projects that are on kiwi
will still get new released for quite a while as well, just letting
everyone know :)
Isaac Schlueter
Jul 11, 2010, 1:30:12 PM7/11/10
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:23, tjholowaychuk <tjholo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> however npm is "stable" now
> however npm is "stable" now
HAHAHAAHAHAHaahahahaAHHAAhahahaaahahHAHAHHAAhahaha....
TJ, you're hilarious. I like the "scare quotes" around "stable".
Everyone, npm is definitely not stable. It's changing often, and has
bugs. But it is actively developed and I'm very interested in making
it work when it breaks, so that I can see what needs fixing.
I suppose you're probably using node because you're ok with that kind of setup.
--i
Mikeal Rogers
Jul 11, 2010, 7:35:56 PM7/11/10
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Is node.js "stable" :P
So far stability hasn't actually kept this community from using stuff :)
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Aaron Heckmann
Jul 11, 2010, 11:05:45 PM7/11/10
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I think is a good step in the right direction for node PMs.
Victor S
Jul 11, 2010, 8:28:47 PM7/11/10
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That's sad, I just got into nodejs yesterday and going through some
tutorials that use kiwi, as well I think its a very nice way to manage
packages. Kind of like gems.
Why give the package management reigns over to npm? Is there a good
reason?
- V
tutorials that use kiwi, as well I think its a very nice way to manage
packages. Kind of like gems.
Why give the package management reigns over to npm? Is there a good
reason?
- V
Victor S
Jul 11, 2010, 11:43:57 PM7/11/10
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I just tried using npm and was told: ! Error: n...@0.1.19 not
compatible with no...@0.1.100+
Why are you discontinuing work on kiwi, and why @Aaron is it a good
idea? I'm new here, and I don't get it...
- V
On Jul 11, 11:05 pm, Aaron Heckmann <aaron.heckm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think is a good step in the right direction for node PMs.
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> >> .
> > .
> Aaronhttp://clickdummy.net
compatible with no...@0.1.100+
Why are you discontinuing work on kiwi, and why @Aaron is it a good
idea? I'm new here, and I don't get it...
- V
On Jul 11, 11:05 pm, Aaron Heckmann <aaron.heckm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think is a good step in the right direction for node PMs.
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> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rog...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Is node.js "stable" :P
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> > So far stability hasn't actually kept this community from using stuff :)
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> > -Mikeal
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> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote:
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> >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:23, tjholowaychuk <tjholoway...@gmail.com>
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> > Is node.js "stable" :P
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> > So far stability hasn't actually kept this community from using stuff :)
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> > -Mikeal
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> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote:
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> >> wrote:
> >> > however npm is "stable" now
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> >> HAHAHAAHAHAHaahahahaAHHAAhahahaaahahHAHAHHAAhahaha....
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> >> TJ, you're hilarious. I like the "scare quotes" around "stable".
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> >> Everyone, npm is definitely not stable. It's changing often, and has
> >> bugs. But it is actively developed and I'm very interested in making
> >> it work when it breaks, so that I can see what needs fixing.
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> >> I suppose you're probably using node because you're ok with that kind of
> >> setup.
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> >> --i
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> >> > however npm is "stable" now
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> >> HAHAHAAHAHAHaahahahaAHHAAhahahaaahahHAHAHHAAhahaha....
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> >> TJ, you're hilarious. I like the "scare quotes" around "stable".
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> >> Everyone, npm is definitely not stable. It's changing often, and has
> >> bugs. But it is actively developed and I'm very interested in making
> >> it work when it breaks, so that I can see what needs fixing.
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> >> I suppose you're probably using node because you're ok with that kind of
> >> setup.
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Isaac Schlueter
Jul 12, 2010, 12:45:42 AM7/12/10
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Worked it out on IRC.
Tonight I learned that sometimes node reports a "+" at the end of the
version, if you somehow have the .git folder, but git describe fails.
Still not sure exactly how one ends up in that situation, but it's now
on my npm todo list.
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Marak Squires
Jul 12, 2010, 12:46:21 AM7/12/10
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I think this is a good thing.
Isaac's has been stepping it up with development and we've been planning some really cool new features for npm. TJ will also get to focus more time working on Express and Connect, which are really important projects right now.
Also, I'm pretty sure Victor S just logged into the IRC and got his problem sorted out very quickly. Victor is npm working for you now?
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tjholowaychuk
Jul 12, 2010, 12:57:19 AM7/12/10
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I haven't touched kiwi for quite a while but ya I'd love to focus more
on other projects. Hehe :) by stable I meant working enough for me to
turf kiwi :)
On Jul 11, 9:46 pm, Marak Squires <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is a good thing.
>
> Isaac's has been stepping it up with development and we've been planning
> some really cool new features for npm. TJ will also get to focus more time
> working on Express and Connect, which are really important projects right
> now.
>
> Also, I'm pretty sure Victor S just logged into the IRC and got his problem
> sorted out very quickly. Victor is npm working for you now?
>
> -Marak
>
>
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Victor S <victor.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just tried using npm and was told: ! Error: n...@0.1.19 not
> > compatible with n...@0.1.100+
> I think this is a good thing.
>
> Isaac's has been stepping it up with development and we've been planning
> some really cool new features for npm. TJ will also get to focus more time
> working on Express and Connect, which are really important projects right
> now.
>
> Also, I'm pretty sure Victor S just logged into the IRC and got his problem
> sorted out very quickly. Victor is npm working for you now?
>
> -Marak
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Victor S <victor.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just tried using npm and was told: ! Error: n...@0.1.19 not
>
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Nathan
Jul 12, 2010, 1:07:32 AM7/12/10
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And I had just decided to use kiwi since it works on cygwin and I've
been having trouble with npm....
nice timing :)
been having trouble with npm....
nice timing :)
Isaac Schlueter
Jul 12, 2010, 1:18:02 AM7/12/10
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Nathan, (and anyone else, really)
Please post an issue when npm doesn't work for you. I know for a fact
that there's some issue with Cygwin, something having to do with there
not being a lib/node dir.
Cygwin support is pretty new in node, and I think most noders don't
use Windows much, so it doesn't get much love. I'll be happy to fix
bugs in npm if I have enough info to do so, but Windows support isn't
a high priority, so I'm not surprised that there are issues.
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Victor S
Jul 12, 2010, 2:47:51 AM7/12/10
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Yes, thanks all of you that helped for the help, greatly appreciated!
On Jul 12, 12:46 am, Marak Squires <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is a good thing.
>
> Isaac's has been stepping it up with development and we've been planning
> some really cool new features for npm. TJ will also get to focus more time
> working on Express and Connect, which are really important projects right
> now.
>
> Also, I'm pretty sure Victor S just logged into the IRC and got his problem
> sorted out very quickly. Victor is npm working for you now?
>
> -Marak
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Victor S <victor.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just tried using npm and was told: ! Error: n...@0.1.19 not
> > compatible with n...@0.1.100+
> > <nodejs%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com<nodejs%252Buns...@googlegroups.com>
On Jul 12, 12:46 am, Marak Squires <marak.squi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is a good thing.
>
> Isaac's has been stepping it up with development and we've been planning
> some really cool new features for npm. TJ will also get to focus more time
> working on Express and Connect, which are really important projects right
> now.
>
> Also, I'm pretty sure Victor S just logged into the IRC and got his problem
> sorted out very quickly. Victor is npm working for you now?
>
> -Marak
>
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Victor S <victor.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just tried using npm and was told: ! Error: n...@0.1.19 not
>
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Aaron Heckmann
Jul 12, 2010, 7:05:48 AM7/12/10
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Yeah, Marak pretty much said it already but with one less major PM around, there's that much more attention that can be given to npm. And yeah, now TJ has more time to continue creating other amazing things for everyone haha.
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r...@tinyclouds.org
Jul 12, 2010, 5:15:30 PM7/12/10
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Cool. Thanks for letting us know what's going on. Glad to see convergence.
What's going on with Express?
tjholowaychuk
Jul 14, 2010, 12:01:10 AM7/14/10
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no problem. Apparently Isaacs got a bit of inspiration from kiwi at
least so not a total waste :)
I have been working on Express 1.0 which will be quite a bit nicer and
leverage our work on Connect,
it feels sooooo nice to re-write and get rid of my old legacy crap
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> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:23 AM, tjholowaychuk <tjholoway...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thekiwipackage manager that I wrote is no longer actively developed.
least so not a total waste :)
I have been working on Express 1.0 which will be quite a bit nicer and
leverage our work on Connect,
it feels sooooo nice to re-write and get rid of my old legacy crap
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> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:23 AM, tjholowaychuk <tjholoway...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thekiwipackage manager that I wrote is no longer actively developed.
Ciaran
Jul 14, 2010, 6:20:35 AM7/14/10
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Tj/isaacs, last time I tried I couldn't get any of my express plugins
working within npm, has that changed does anyone know ?
-cj.
working within npm, has that changed does anyone know ?
-cj.
Chris Winberry
Jul 14, 2010, 9:06:45 AM7/14/10
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Careful. What you are writing now will become legacy crap soon enough. =)
tjholowaychuk
Jul 14, 2010, 10:19:24 AM7/14/10
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hahah wtf. Ciaran I cant remember exactly right now but I think I have
them exported
On Jul 14, 6:06 am, Chris Winberry <cpt.obvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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them exported
On Jul 14, 6:06 am, Chris Winberry <cpt.obvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Careful. What you are writing now will become legacy crap soon enough. =)
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Chris Winberry
Jul 14, 2010, 1:52:48 PM7/14/10
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Did not mean that as an insult. Just meant that what one writes today will contain WTFs for our future selves to find. It is a sign that we are still improving and expanding our skill. The day I look back on old code and see nothing wrong is the day I change careers.
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On Jul 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Chris Winberry wrote:
The day I look back on old code and see nothing wrong is the day I change careers.
I guess I'm still good for a while, my old stuff stinks!
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