NodeCon 2011
Mikeal Rogers
I'd like to do something entirely community driven. Before I started dumping out all of my ideas I'd like to see what other people think.
Also, people who can make serious time commitments to help organizing would be very welcome.
-Mikeal
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Timothy Caswell
As far as ideas, I would like some talks, some training, and some general hack time.
Christian Scholz
> Count me in for helping organize!
>
> As far as ideas, I would like some talks, some training, and some
> general hack time.
I prefer Barcamp style/unconference as you adapt more to the audience
but in general great idea :-)
-- Christian
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote:
>
>> I'm starting to think about organizing a node conference for next
>> year.
>>
>> I'd like to do something entirely community driven. Before I
>> started dumping out all of my ideas I'd like to see what other
>> people think.
>>
>> Also, people who can make serious time commitments to help
>> organizing would be very welcome.
>>
>> -Mikeal
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Jim Puls
> Also, people who can make serious time commitments to help organizing would be very welcome.
Sounds awesome. Count me in.
-> jp
Micheil Smith
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Mikeal Rogers
Programme Committee?
Should we take submissions or let the programme committee ask people to speak?
Locations?
Before people start throwing around "have it near my house" locations try to come up with real reasons that anyone else would want to have it that location.
-Mikeal
Micheil Smith
On 02/09/2010, at 8:24 AM, Mikeal Rogers wrote:
> Right now we should just push around ideas and think about the structure for organizing the event.
>
> Programme Committee?
Could be an idea, or just a group to start really organising this.
> Should we take submissions or let the programme committee ask people to speak?
Both, the group should first ask people to speak, and then if there isn't enough numbers, then
open it up for submissions, or if someone really wants to talk, they could email the group.
> Locations?
Somewhere good. I don't have much to throw here, SF would probably work for a lot of people, not sure about node numbers in portland. (And as for near my house, australia anyone? ;P)
Dean Landolt
Right now we should just push around ideas and think about the structure for organizing the event.
Programme Committee?
Should we take submissions or let the programme committee ask people to speak?
Locations?
Before people start throwing around "have it near my house" locations try to come up with real reasons that anyone else would want to have it that location.
Timothy Caswell
Right now we should just push around ideas and think about the structure for organizing the event.
Programme Committee?
Should we take submissions or let the programme committee ask people to speak?
Locations?
Isaac Schlueter
1. the bay area has the highest concentration of noders of any other metro area
2. it's cooler than the south bay
3. it's cheaper than SF
4. it's near my house ;)
Srsly, anywhere is fine. Let me know how I can help.
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Guillermo Rauch
James Carr
Mikeal Rogers
My gut says Portland or the Bay Area.
One thing that kinda goes without saying is that someone on the programme committee (or whatever we call the organizing board) needs to be located in that city.
I love Oakland, I live in Oakland, but I don't know if it's a good choice. ApacheCon was in Oakland last year (about 3 blocks from what is now the Couchio office) and people were *not* happy. A big part of it was the venue, a nearby hotel, was just god aweful (no outlets, crap wireless, worse food).
I think it's a lot easier if we talk specifically about venues and not just shout out cities. We want a venue that is close to good food and happenings and hotels. I would rather not have it *in* a hotel because of all the insane restrictions. The venue preferably has a lax catering policy or none at all (we could do what osbridge does and give hour and half breaks for food but that only works when there is a lot of good food nearby).
Some great venues I've been to recently. California Academy of Sciences (San Francisco, probably *really* expensive tho), Walker Creek Ranch (Marin County, BEAUTIFUL, it's where we're having CouchCamp, includes onsite accomodations and good food), and the Portland Art Museum (great venue! they had Open Source Bridge there).
-Mikeal
Mikeal Rogers
Since we have the domains I'm pretty sure this is actually going to be called NodeConf :)
-Mikeal
Camilo Aguilar
Marco Rogers
I'll show up. It would be cool to give a talk too.
:Marco
On Sep 1, 7:19 pm, Camilo Aguilar <cam...@cloudescape.com> wrote:
> ahahah My wife laughed so loudly with this message. She said: "highest level
> of geekness, gets drunk and start to register domains "
>
>
>
>
> > My friend Adam and I got drunk back in March and he registered
> > nodeconf.com nodeconf.org nodecamp.com and nodecamp.org :)
>
> > Since we have the domains I'm pretty sure this is actually going to be
> > called NodeConf :)
>
> > -Mikeal
>
> > .
Matt Todd
However, I'd definitely prefer the Bay area or Portland over anything
else except for Atlanta (my hometown).
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+2 SF/EB (Berkeley, maybe?)
+1 Portland
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Edward O'Connor
Indeed, Calit2 has a fantastic space. I've got the relevant contacts
for it. Also, who doesn't want an excuse to visit San Diego?
Ted
Joe McCann
style us out with all kinds of shit here in Austin. That being said I
used to live in Portland for years and love it and the Bay is always
home to me.
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> > MerbCamp was held at Calit2http://www.calit2.net/and it was an awesome venue.
Ted Young
guesses as to how big the mob might be? One of my office mates is an
event organizer, he'll probably have some good suggestions for venues.
Ted Young
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Mikeal Rogers
We should look for a venue for 200 - 300 people. I'd cap it at that, more than 300 and it lacks any intimacy.
We aren't trying to make money, this will be a community driven event and the goal will be to collect enough money via registration and sponsors that we're setup for the next event.
-Mikeal
Mikeal Rogers
- Venue rental is reasonable. Probably more than Austin but much cheaper than SF / NYC.
- All the venues are close to downtown and Portland has fantastic mostly free transit around downtown. This means there isn't any busing or shuttling that ever needs to be done regardless of how much you have to fracture the drinkups or extra activities.
- The conference doesn't have to provide meals. I'm honestly offended when Portland conferences try to feed me instead of just giving me enough time to walk to the food carts :) When I was at osbridge they even convinced a korean taco truck to park at PAM for lunch :)
In short, Portland is cheap because it removes costs not just because the general cost of expenses is lower.
On top of that Portland is just a great city to walk around in and the venues and hotels are mostly centrally located or on a MAX line.
My hotel stay in Austin wasn't much cheaper than my stay in the Ace in Portland (and the Ace is was a considerably nicer hotel).
Only thing is, someone who lives in Portland will need to step up to be on the programme committee.
-Mikeal
voodootikigod
idea to do this in conjunction with JSConf (US|EU) in order to
consolidate sponsorship, events, etc? Node as most people conceive it
is little without JavaScript in the front end and arguably Frontend JS
is best served with node.js, so it would be in the best interest
overall to allow people to learn both in a consolidated event. Any
particular strong reason to not make it an event in concert with
JSConf?
Chris
On Sep 2, 12:02 am, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a hard time gauging the estimated size.
>
> We should look for a venue for 200 - 300 people. I'd cap it at that, more
> than 300 and it lacks any intimacy.
>
> We aren't trying to make money, this will be a community driven event and
> the goal will be to collect enough money via registration and sponsors that
> we're setup for the next event.
>
> -Mikeal
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Ted Young <t...@radicaldesigns.org> wrote:
> > Size is probably an important consideration in venue choice. Any guesses
> > as to how big the mob might be? One of my office mates is an event
> > organizer, he'll probably have some good suggestions for venues.
>
> > Ted Young
> > radicalDesigns
> > (415) 738 0456
> > t...@radicaldesigns.org
>
> > On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Edward O'Connor wrote:
>
>
> >> Indeed, Calit2 has a fantastic space. I've got the relevant contacts
> >> for it. Also, who doesn't want an excuse to visit San Diego?
>
> >> Ted
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Mikeal Rogers
You know what the problem with JSConf is? It's too fucking awesome :)
But seriously, it's really great and everyone wants to go. In fact I probably know more people that wanted to go and weren't able to get a ticket than I know people that were actually able to attend.
The solution to the awesome problem isn't to make it bigger, which would probably result in less awesome. JSConf is great, JSConf should keep being JSConf and node should always be a part of JSConf.
NodeConf should try to be as awesome an event as possible for node developers. Focusing in on just node means that more people that want to learn/do node stuff can attend that can't make it to JSConf.
JQueryCon doesn't detract from JSConf, so I don't see how a node conference would either.
I think we should try to space it out from other related conferences like JSConf and JSConf.eu, but I do think there is enough of a community and space is limited enough at other related conferences that it's worth doing something more focused.
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Jim Puls
> I have a hard time gauging the estimated size.
>
> We should look for a venue for 200 - 300 people. I'd cap it at that, more than 300 and it lacks any intimacy.
>
> We aren't trying to make money, this will be a community driven event and the goal will be to collect enough money via registration and sponsors that we're setup for the next event.
If you want to do this on the ultra-cheap in the Bay Area, there's Hacker Dojo in Mountain View for a venue, but that wouldn't really work past about 100 people.
-> jp
r...@tinyclouds.org
> I'm starting to think about organizing a node conference for next year.
>
> I'd like to do something entirely community driven. Before I started dumping
> out all of my ideas I'd like to see what other people think.
>
> Also, people who can make serious time commitments to help organizing would
> be very welcome.
>
Great! Of course, the Joyent offices can host an event. Though it
might be fun to do something on the East Coast.
Micheil Smith
year at web directions south, they were absolutely awesome.
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DTrejo
I'm looking forward to this,
David
Felix Geisendörfer
people) before, so I'd love to help out as well.
Location:
- The east coast is a little easier / cheaper to get to for european
node disciples.
- I don't want the conference to be near my house, tokyo or new
zealand would be fun places to visit : )
Sponsors:
- We should get a (good) beer company to sponsor, that'd be a serious
win for a conference : )
JSConf:
- I don't dislike the idea. I could imagine a 1-2 day "node camp"
event that is paired with the next JSConf. That's not to say there
shouldn't be an official Nodecon, but maybe this is an easier kind of
event to pull of initially. It takes a *ton* of work to organize
something like this.
--fg
Aaron Heckmann
James Carr
mscdex
> +1 Midwest so I can get there easier :)
>
Jesse Hallett
I am a Portland resident and I organize the Portland JavaScript
Admirers <http://pdxjs.com/>. I also happen to know a number of the
Open Source Bridge organizers <http://opensourcebridge.org/> - who I
am sure could provide useful advice. I know that they have done a lot
of research on venues, catering, food cart coordination, wifi
providers, and so forth.
Incidentally, a formula that has worked well for Open Source Bridge is
to have 2-3 days of talks, 1 day for a Barcamp-style unconference, and
a 24 hour hacker lounge open during the entire conference.
Regardless of the location I would also like to recommend
OpenConferenceWare <http://openconferenceware.org/> as a tool for
organizing the conference. It can handle registrations, collecting
proposals, voting on proposals, etc. It is not built on node.js, but
it has been tested in the field and is maintained by some clever and
dedicated individuals.
On Sep 1, 11:15 pm, r...@tinyclouds.org wrote:
joseph moniz
Terry Riegel
Terry
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Terry
On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:04 PM, mscdex wrote:
joseph moniz
Unfortunately we can't really accommodate more then 100-150 people.
That being said put me on the readily accessible list of volunteers
willing to help out with just about anything.
Josh Roesslein
James Carr
Thanks,
James
tjholowaychuk
haha.. im down though, sounds awesome.
On Sep 1, 9:02 pm, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a hard time gauging the estimated size.
>
> We should look for a venue for 200 - 300 people. I'd cap it at that, more
> than 300 and it lacks any intimacy.
>
> We aren't trying to make money, this will be a community driven event and
> the goal will be to collect enough money via registration and sponsors that
> we're setup for the next event.
>
> -Mikeal
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Ted Young <t...@radicaldesigns.org> wrote:
> > Size is probably an important consideration in venue choice. Any guesses
> > as to how big the mob might be? One of my office mates is an event
> > organizer, he'll probably have some good suggestions for venues.
>
> > Ted Young
> > radicalDesigns
> > (415) 738 0456
> > t...@radicaldesigns.org
>
> > On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Edward O'Connor wrote:
>
>
> >> Indeed, Calit2 has a fantastic space. I've got the relevant contacts
> >> for it. Also, who doesn't want an excuse to visit San Diego?
>
> >> Ted
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Matt Ranney
Since we have the domains I'm pretty sure this is actually going to be called NodeConf :)
Trent Mick
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Stephen Belanger <cyruz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sure there'll be something in the Vancouver area eventually. For now
> though, I think it's basically just you and I out here. :(
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:58 PM, tjholowaychuk <tjholo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Canada!
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I hear England is a lovely place for a conference ;)
Seriously though, provided I can get there I'm definitely up for this.
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Alan Gutierrez
little without POSIX.
I would not be interested in JSConf. I want to meetup with the people
that I know through Node.js. Not as a subset of a larger conference. Not
as a panel on one of five tracks.
That would change the nature of the event from meeting to focus on Node,
versus meeting to advocate for Node to a larger group, with energy spend
on combat with the trolls and naysayers.
I'd rather have a small conference filled with people I want to get to
know better, who are already well up to speed on Node.js, with all
tracks focused on being a better Node.js programmer.
On 9/1/10 11:15 PM, voodootikigod wrote:
> Not to dissuade the idea of a NodeCon, but wouldn't it be a better
> idea to do this in conjunction with JSConf (US|EU) in order to
> consolidate sponsorship, events, etc? Node as most people conceive it
> is little without JavaScript in the front end and arguably Frontend JS
> is best served with node.js, so it would be in the best interest
> overall to allow people to learn both in a consolidated event. Any
> particular strong reason to not make it an event in concert with
> JSConf?
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MilesTogoe
> Why a single venue?
>
> Why not a number of videostream / vpn linked ConfNodes?
I think this makes lots of sense - it's supposed to be the power of
technology that allows us to interface more remotely. And with many
economies running on deficit smoke and mirrors (CA, US, ...), it might
just be the economically prudent way to plan. And with regional
"satellites", there's still the opportunity to socialize in person with
other noders.
Stephen Belanger
Damian Suarez
Scott Taylor
On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Alan Gutierrez wrote:
> I don't see the argument. Node would be little without C. Node would be little without POSIX.
>
> I would not be interested in JSConf. I want to meetup with the people that I know through Node.js. Not as a subset of a larger conference. Not as a panel on one of five tracks.
>
> That would change the nature of the event from meeting to focus on Node, versus meeting to advocate for Node to a larger group, with energy spend on combat with the trolls and naysayers.
>
> I'd rather have a small conference filled with people I want to get to know better, who are already well up to speed on Node.js, with all tracks focused on being a better Node.js programmer.
>
+1
I don't care at all about client side javascript - I, too, would not be interested in going to JSConf, but I *would* be interested in a server-side javascript conference (which might include other server side js (narwhal, etc), implementers: rhino/v8/etc, commonjs guys, and others).
Scott
> On 9/1/10 11:15 PM, voodootikigod wrote:
>> Not to dissuade the idea of a NodeCon, but wouldn't it be a better
>> idea to do this in conjunction with JSConf (US|EU) in order to
>> consolidate sponsorship, events, etc? Node as most people conceive it
>> is little without JavaScript in the front end and arguably Frontend JS
>> is best served with node.js, so it would be in the best interest
>> overall to allow people to learn both in a consolidated event. Any
>> particular strong reason to not make it an event in concert with
>> JSConf?
>
>
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Mikeal Rogers
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Zhami
On Sep 3, 12:09 pm, Alan Gutierrez <a...@blogometer.com> wrote:
> I'd rather have a small conference filled with people I want to get to
> know better, who are already well up to speed on Node.js, with all
> tracks focused on being a better Node.js programmer.
I do a lot with JS on the client side and would like to attend
JSConf... and even though attending two events bears time and cost
issues, I would want the time I put toward Node.js to be focused, non-
distracted, immersive, all-encompassing, and community building.
MilesTogoe
of like the ubuntu and fedora release parties around the world except
with real-time connectivity and talks
at first a big central conference sounded more "important", maybe
drawing more big sponsorships, and maybe more on the radar of the
corporate world
but OTOH - maybe a world wide distributed conference is actually more
attention getting - corporations are now global so tying in the whole
world is really awesome (albeit some time difference but at least no jet
lag). And it kind of shows how progressive the node community is -
leading the pack on a synchronous (yeah pun) worldwide conf. - kind of
like why we switched to Node -> it's not a me too, but ahead of the pack.
It also allows a lot more participation for anyone with travel
restrictions since travel to a regional mtg can be done on the cheap and
with limited time budget
And it can be a combination of local community driven with local
preferences and yet combine with talks with top noders no matter where
they live. Plus a ton of overhead cost is cut out. No paying for
speakers to fly in and hotels - no crappy hotel costs like min room
guarantees, or deposits or paying their overpriced coffee service,
...... less overhead cost === more money for beer !
And maybe we could get Cisco, or Skype or Google or Adobe or ..... to
showcase their world wide video conferencing ability and get lots of
free attention out of it.
just some thoughts.
Chris Winberry
There were quite a few HQs for nodeko so I think a distributed conference could probably get some decent location sponsors.