Re: [nodejs-nz:19] Hello everyone, I have just arrived at NZ for two weeks

[宋劲杉]

Hi Tobias,

I tried but with no luck. I even asked in Auckland JS meetup but nobody knows any company doing node.js, though some of them said they would be interested if there is such a company.

Now I'm preparing for interviews of several other job opportunities. I'll let you know if I find some company needing node.js guys.

Cheers

Sean

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Nox <kop...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Sean,

I am currently thinking about doing what you did. Moving to New Zealand that is.
Did you find a job? I would love to work in a node.js environment, too.

Tobias

Am Montag, 24. September 2012 12:07:38 UTC+2 schrieb Sean Soong:

> Thank you Andy, for replying so promptly:)
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> Although I have been here for only a few days, I found New Zealanders very kind, always ready to help. Whenever I looks disoriented, someone will offer to help me.
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> So, to Francois, or whoever, if there's a job relating to node.js, HTML5, or the like, anywhere in New Zealand, I'd like to relocate and try. I'm new to these fields so I don't expect a high salary. But my technical grounding guarantees that I can progress quickly.
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> I came to New Zealand to try a new way of life. If it works, I'll try to stay here. If unsuccessful, it doesn't matter, then I just try the new way of make new friends and then come back to China.
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> Sean
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> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Andrew Chilton <andyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Sean,
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> Firstly, thanks for saying hi to the group. :)
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> On 24 September 2012 21:37, Sean Soong <songj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > After everyday life is properly settled, I'm starting to seek a job. Is
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> > there any job opportunity anywhere in New Zealand relating to node.js? I've
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> > searched over seek.co.nz, it seems there isn't any. In Austrila there are
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> > quite a few but I don't have a visa to Australia.
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> I haven't found very many Node.js jobs in New Zealand either, though
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> there does seem to be one or two out there. :) I know Francois works
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> for Mozilla and uses Node.js so it might be worth getting in touch
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> with him (Francois: wanna ping Sean and say hi?)
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> > I'm new to node.js, but I have rich experience with async I/O programs
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> > written in Linux C/C++ --- epoll, libevent, boost::asio, all sorts of
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> > things. I'm getting quite keen about node.js recently. It feels like finally
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> > I find the right way, right paradigm to program async I/O.
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> Yep, I agree. It's something that just seems to fit with my brain
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> quite well. Although if I really think about it, it's a combination of
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> two things for me. (i) the async nature as you suggested, but also
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> (ii) the powerful language it is sitting in. JavaScript really does
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> have so much power to it - I usually describe it as Lisp in C's
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> clothing. Just being able to do things like .bind() or pass functions
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> around as first class objects - it's pretty cool.
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> > And this group is so quiet, as tranquil as the suburb in North Shore:) Hope
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> > somebody can see my post. I would appreciate your help!
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> Yes, we're quiet, but we're still small. I also fear that NZ hasn't
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> yet caught the bug but I suspect the tide will start turning soon. :)
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> Finally, welcome to NZ. I hope you like it here.
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> Cheers,
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> Andy
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[Dominic Tarr]

hmm, so probably someone needs to start a nz node.js company...

[Andrew Chilton]

On 7 November 2012 10:35, Dominic Tarr <domini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm, so probably someone needs to start a nz node.js company...

Yup, definitely - and whilst I have a company which does Node.js it
can't yet support itself or anyone else.

In the past I had a contract with a US company doing Node.js and
recently almost got another one (except they wanted me to move to the
US - which I refused) but am hoping to get some more in the next few
months.

I did a presentation about Node.js at a Wellington company last Friday
too, and whilst they're all interested, it didn't look like they had a
use-case for it yet - probably my fault for not enunciating the
advantages better. :) Also, most work in NZ are just plain CMSs,
nothing where the power of streams, events, real-time data etc. really
shine.

Cheers,
Andy

P.S. It's the NZOSA awards in Wellington tonight - give me a shout if
anyone is going and I'll see you there (Francois, I know you're going,
so will catch up with you then).

[宋劲杉]

When it comes to high performance I/O application, node.js shows its strength. I believe node.js can achieve the same performance as C/C++ program in I/O bound applications, with a much neater and maintainable code base.

Unfortunately most IT companies in NZ are working on enterprise IT services, not so much demand for high throughput and concurrency. Besides, most node.js components are small to medium sized projects, whose features are not very stable, whose documents are not well maintained -- not suitable for enterprise IT service.

I suppose the right niche for node.js should be an innovative Internet company aiming at serving millions of users.

@Andy I noticed you started http://nodejs.geek.nz/ . That's great! We are counting on you to establish the connection between companies needing node.js people and guys like us who are looking for jobs:) Could you describe what the site is gonna be like, and your plan? I would like to help if I have the ability.

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[Rob]

What about joining a startup Sean?

I'm just in the process of validating an idea and would be keen on finding another node.js developer.

[Dominic Tarr]

Another opportunity is that node is the perfect backend for realtime applications,

So, if you where a consultancy developing realtime apps, for web or mobile 

(maybe on http://phonegap.com/ ?) then node would be ideal.

Andrew, prehaps you should just write a realtime CMS in node?

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[Andrew Chilton]

Hi Dominic,

On 8 November 2012 08:29, Dominic Tarr <domini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another opportunity is that node is the perfect backend for realtime
> applications,
> So, if you where a consultancy developing realtime apps, for web or mobile
> (maybe on http://phonegap.com/ ?) then node would be ideal.

I played with PhoneGap and parse.com the other week. Stuffing data
from their JS API library into their systems was pretty easy - apart
from the ability to subscribe to notifications (not yet implemented)!
:( Another area Node.js shines. I did ask them about this but no
answer so far.

> Andrew, prehaps you should just write a realtime CMS in node?

True - not sure what it would look like (yet). I did have a go doing a
CMS in Perl many years ago but decided PHP already has that wrapped up
and Perl people do their own thing. I suspect a CMS for Node.js
wouldn't take off even though there are a few out there already. I
suspect a project which is more akin to real-time is more suited (ie.
a non-CMS). :)

Cheers,
Andy

[Sean Soong]

Well, I don't mind whether it's a startup or a well established company, as long as I can change my immigration status soon. Now I'm somewhat in a hurry to get a job offer in NZ, because my wife's gonna give birth in January. Only with a job offer can I change my immigration status and have my maternity expense covered.

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[Andrew Chilton]

Hi Sean,

On 7 November 2012 22:02, 宋劲杉 <songj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Andy I noticed you started http://nodejs.geek.nz/ . That's great! We are
> counting on you to establish the connection between companies needing
> node.js people and guys like us who are looking for jobs:) Could you
> describe what the site is gonna be like, and your plan? I would like to help
> if I have the ability.

Yes, I've started it and see it as a way to get NZ talking about
Node.js and to get the world to talk to us about it too!

I didn't realise you could already find the site. Anyway, the plan has
a few things to it:

* list companies and their contact details who are using Node.js (in
case anyone wants a job)
* list independent contractors/companies who can do it for other people
* list interesting projects
* I think I'll write some articles and/or profiles of people, projects
and companies too

(The site is still incubating in my mind, suggestions welcome.)

The code is here but don't have a crack at pull requests yet since I'm
just adding the main design to the site. Soon.

* https://github.com/appsattic/nodejs-geek-nz

Cheers,
Andy

[Dominic Tarr]

I wasn't really being serious about a CMS,

Of course the great thing about node is that it allows you to create new types of applications that 

Arn't really feasible with ruby/php/whatever

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[Andrew Chilton]

On 8 November 2012 10:05, Dominic Tarr <domini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wasn't really being serious about a CMS,

Ah, sorry - I missed the tone. :)

But... automatically updating all of the clients looking at a page
once it has been edited and saved in the backend would be pretty cool!
:) We did do a variant of this for breaking news when I worked on
stuff.co.nz (a proprietary and very specific CMS for their news
specific uses) but it wasn't quite realtime - I think it polled every
minute for updates. This was about 5 years ago so it would be much
better now.