Den 02.02.2016 16.42, skrev Andreas Falck:
> Den 02-02-2016 kl. 16:09 skrev Ole Madsen:
>> vi debaterede for nyelig Mikael, og unavngiven person (gæt selv hvem)
>> sagde at det var et andet navn for Jesus, men så faldt jeg over dette
>>
>> Dengang ærkeenglen Mikael stredes med Djævelen om Moses’ lig, vovede han
>> trods alt ikke at udtale nogen spottende dom, men sagde blot: »Herren
>> straffe dig!
>>
>> Bibelen. Den hellige Skrifts kanoniske Bøger. (1992). (Jud 9). Det
>> Danske Bibelselskab.
>>
>> Mikael siger "Herren straffe dig", altså er Mikael ikke Herren selv, men
>> en under Herrens autoritet og myndighed
>
> har du ikke blot en ret så overfladisk læsning??
>
> I øvrigt betyder Michael "den der er Gud helt lig" - og det er da en
> titel/navn der passer helt perfekt på Jesus, som jo netop er *den
> eneste* der er Gud helt lig!!
>
> Her er lidt du kan studere:
>
http://biblelight.net/michael.htm
>
> ARCHANGEL / MICHAEL TEXT #1
>
> 1 Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
> with the voice of the *archangel*, and with the trump of God: and the
> dead in Christ shall rise first:
>
> Who raises the dead with His voice? Not a created angel, indeed not even
> a created archangel. The shout is given with the voice of the
> *archangel*, the LORD Jesus Christ Himself:
>
> John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to
> the Son to have life in himself;
> John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because
> he is the Son of man.
> John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all
> that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
> John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the
> resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the
> resurrection of damnation.
>
> It is the voice of Jesus Christ (the Son of man) that raises the dead.
> Just as 1 Th 4:16 says, the Lord Jesus shall descend from heaven and
> shout with the voice of the Archangel, because He is the Archangel. With
> that shout, the righteous dead will be raised from their graves!
>
> ARCHANGEL / MICHAEL TEXT #2
>
> Jude 1:9 Yet *Michael the archangel*, when contending with the devil he
> disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing
> accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
>
> This verse is a virtual duplicate of another Old Testament event-
>
> Zec 3:1 And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the
> *angel of the LORD*, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
> Zec 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan;
> even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a
> brand plucked out of the fire?
>
> In both Jude 9 and Zech 3:1-2 it is Jesus, the *angel of the LORD* who
> is also *Michael the archangel*, contending with Satan for both Moses
> and Joshua.
>
> ARCHANGEL / MICHAEL TEXT #3
>
> Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and
> twenty days: but, lo, *Michael*, one of the chief princes, came to help
> me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia
>
> The prince of the kingdom of Persia is a reference to Satan, and Michael
> refers again to Jesus. It is the created angel Gabriel that is speaking
> with Daniel (See Dan 8:16, 9:21). The reference to Michael as one of the
> chief princes probably alludes to the Trinity, with Jesus being one part
> of the triune Godhead.
>
> ARCHANGEL / MICHAEL TEXT #4
>
> Dan 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the scripture of
> truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but
> Michael your prince.
>
> Gabriel says that only he and Michael know certain truths which Gabriel
> will reveal to Daniel. Who could this Michael be but Jesus, God Himself,
> giving Gabriel the truths to reveal to Daniel?
>
> ARCHANGEL / MICHAEL TEXT #5
>
> Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which
> standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of
> trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same
> time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that
> shall be found written in the book.
> Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall
> awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting
> contempt.
>
> Michael standing up is a reference to the second coming of Jesus at the
> end of time when He delivers His people, those listed in the Lamb's book
> of life, to include resurrecting those that sleep in the dust to
> everlasting life.
>
> Some might propose that, in these three preceding texts from Daniel, the
> description of Michael as a mere prince is inappropriate for Jesus, so
> it must be speaking of a created angel. Note the following verses:
>
> Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> Prince of Peace.
>
> Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the
> commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the
> Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street
> shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
>
> Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a
> murderer to be granted unto you;
> Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the
> dead; whereof we are witnesses.
>
> Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and
> hanged on a tree.
> Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a
> Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
>
> Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the
> first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
> Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
>
> ARCHANGEL / MICHAEL TEXT #6
>
> Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought
> against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, ...
>
> Who leads the angelic host of heaven, who is their captain?
>
> Josh 5:13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he
> lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over
> against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him,
> and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
> Josh 5:14 And he said, Nay; but as *captain of the host* of the LORD am
> I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship,
> and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
> Josh 5:15 And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy
> shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And
> Joshua did so.
>
> Notice that Joshua worshipped the *captain of the Host*? If this were a
> mere angel, then the angel would have protested Joshua worshipping him,
> just as the angel protested John the Revelator worshipping him (Rev
> 22:8-9). So Joshua met with God (Jesus Christ) the *captain of the
> Host*. That is why he stood on holy ground and was asked to remove his
> shoes (just like Moses was asked in Exo 3:5 and Acts 7:33). Therefore,
> in Rev 12:7 you have Satan and his angels, and Jesus (Michael, the
> *captain of the Host*) and His angels - this was the war that began in
> heaven and continues today.
>
> And what does the name Michael mean? It means *who (is) like God?* A
> very good question indeed - who is like Jesus?
>
> As this study shows, according to scriptures, Jesus is the angel of the
> LORD, the angel of God, the angel of the covenant, the Archangel
> Michael, who appeared time and again in the Old Testament to speak
> directly to His people. Michael is just another title for the Son of
> God, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh, the principle messenger of
> the gospel (archangel) to humanity, but He is not a created being.
Dersom vi står på krava, vil vi bli som Gud. Det står i Bibelen.
--
Terje Henriksen
Kirkenes