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M,I.5,Persecut ion ' w hy th e sec urity serv ices?

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Jan 2, 2008, 5:15:25 AM1/2/08
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You may ask, why do I. think the "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there. is a single source, as opposed
to. a loosely based "whispering campaign" amongst many people? Even if there
is a single source, is there any evidence that "they" are. professional
"buggers" as opposed to amateurs,. or perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?

a) As to the question of a single. source versus something more fragmented;
it is quite obvious that there is a single. source from the way the campaign
has. been carried out. Since things have been repeated verbatim which were
said in my home, there must be one group which. does the watching and
listening.. Since on several occasions (mainly during travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and rehearsed in what they were to say,. it
follows that. someone must have done the planning for that, and again a
single source. is indicated.

b) So why couldn't. it be amateurs? Why couldn't it be a private
organisation, for example a private. detective agency paid to manage the
campaign and undertake the technical. aspects? Some detective agencies are
unscrupulous as has. been proved on the occasions in the past when they've
been exposed or caught;. they too can have access to the bugging technology
deployed; and there are reported. cases of MI5 paying private eyes to do
their dirty work (against. peace campaigners and similar enemies of the
state) on the understanding that if they. were caught then they could deny
all knowledge. Why. couldn't that be the case?

The main factor. pointing to direct security service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs or MI5. proxies) is the breadth of their access to the media in
particular, and the fact that. the television companies are so involved in
the campaign.. The BBC would not directly invade someone's home themselves,
since. it would not be within their remit to allocate personnel or financial
resources to do so. An organisation. of their stature would not take part in
a campaign set up by private sources. The only people they. would take
material from would be the security. services, presumably on the assumption
that if the cat ever flew out of the. bag yowling it would be MI5 who would
take the. consequences.

State sponsorship for. these acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years. for a team of three or
four people would be beyond the means and will. of most private sources.
The viciousness. of the slanders and personal denigration also points to
MI5; they traditionally "protect" the British state from politicians. of the
wrong hue. by character assassination, and in this case are using their
tried. and tested methods to murder with words an enemy they have invented
for. themselves.

And there are precedents. Diana and Hewitt. were alleged to have been filmed
"at it" by an Army intelligence team which had. operated in Northern
Ireland,. these allegations were made by someone called Jones who had been
on the team. His statements were denied by the. defence establishment who
tried to character-assassinate by describing him as the "Jones. twins".
Funny how if you tell the truth, then you must be ill,. isn't it? Thought
only. communists behaved like that?

Hewitt later said that he'd been spoken to by. someone in the army who
revealed the existence. of videotapes of him and Diana, and that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was made. by them to resume their
association.

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Jon Hånsnartredet

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