Perturbation Plot Not Analyzing

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Bryce Ackermann

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Apr 24, 2025, 4:23:05 PMApr 24
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Hello!

I am trying to follow along the new Perturbation video,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EaGiJ_7vkM 
I have two HSQCs loaded with assigned peaks, everything looks very similar to the video. Then I go to click Analyze, and nothing happens. There’s not analysis, even though I can go into each HSQC and the resonance table shows me different peak ppm for each Leucine 132 for example. 

[Mac, Most recent version, perturbation plot, NH HSQC]

Thank you for all the help!

Lee, Woonghee

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Apr 24, 2025, 4:39:20 PMApr 24
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Hi,

 

  1. Does the assignment format follow this rule?      Like G1 in the Group, H in the Atom.
  2. The number of peaks and assignments must be the same between two spectra.

 

Keep “py” window opened while you are doing it. It will inform you some clues about.

 

 

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Bryce Ackermann

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Apr 24, 2025, 5:11:06 PMApr 24
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Hi!

Thank you for the help.  

It seemed to be a problem with the naming. I deleted all of my unassigned peaks and stuff with ? Marks, and did a copy/paste of those peaks to ensure the list matched perfectly, and then it works great! Thank you!!

Bryce

On Apr 24, 2025, at 1:39 PM, Lee, Woonghee <WOONGH...@UCDENVER.EDU> wrote:

Hi,
 
  1. Does the assignment format follow this rule?      Like G1 in the Group, H in the Atom.
  2. The number of peaks and assignments must be the same between two spectra.
 
Keep “py” window opened while you are doing it. It will inform you some clues about.
 
 
Woonghee Lee, I.E.I.P., M.S., Ph.D.
 
Assistant Professor & Data Science and Chemistry Certificate Program Director
Department of Chemistry
University of Colorado Denver
1151 Arapahoe St. (Science Bldg.) Rm 4128A (office), Rm 4128 (dry lab), Rm 4133 (wet lab)
Denver, CO 80217-3364, USA
 
 
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stefano ciurli

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Apr 25, 2025, 7:26:53 AMApr 25
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Dear Woonghee,

 

I am trying to fit relaxation data using the ‘rh’ protocol in POKY.

 

It worked well for a set of experiments, but it did not for another set, and I do not understand why. I am sure the tau values and the spectra correspond well, but I see the following:

 

 

Additionally, using the following setup…

 

I notice that the headings of the columns are strange (see 1.25e+03/3)

 

 

Finally, it seems that I cannot use replicate experiments with the same tau value, it excludes them by defaulr.

 

Woonghee, if necessary, I can send you the data separately.

 

Stefano

 

Lee, Woonghee

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Apr 25, 2025, 8:31:19 AMApr 25
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Hi Stefano, would you send me the data privately? I have some school event today so my response can be delayed a little bit, but you can try POKY Notepad's dynamics approach meanwhile.


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Lee, Woonghee

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Apr 25, 2025, 3:58:21 PMApr 25
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Hi Stefano,

 

1.25e+03/3 misses the last 0 due to the available column size.

It seems “rh” did right. One potential problem is due to Bruker’s “NC_PROC”.

 

21: 9

22: 7 – need to be divided by 4

23: 9

24: 7 – need to be divided by 4

25: 9

26: 9

27: 9

28: 8 – need to be divided by 2

29: 9

30: 7 – need to be divided by 4

 

Simply, you can open POKY Notepad -> File -> Script -> Find Additional…

 

 

Then apply 0.5 to 28 and 0.25 to 22, 24, 30. That will fix the issue.

 

Best,

Woonghee Lee, I.E.I.P., M.S., Ph.D.

 

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Department of Chemistry

University of Colorado Denver

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stefano ciurli

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Apr 26, 2025, 4:39:21 AMApr 26
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Hi Woonghee,

It worked, thanks!

 

However, it would be better not to have to do this trick. Is it possible to tweak the software to avoid this?

 

Moreover, is it possible to have the software accept replicates?

 

Stefano

Lee, Woonghee

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Apr 26, 2025, 10:45:13 AMApr 26
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Hi Stefano,

 

Good to know it worked. Workaround for using replicates can be using time parameters with neglectable decimals like 10.00001. For ncproc, I think you have used nmrpipe for the processing, then converted ucsf from ft2. Since nmrpipe didn’t adjust intensities based on ncproc, poky has had no clue about this scaling. If you converted from 2rr, POKY would have compensated the ncproc parameter. Hope this helps.

 

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stefano ciurli

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May 16, 2025, 1:00:37 AMMay 16
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Hello,

Is there a way to plot different spectra (N-HSQC) with intensities normalized with respect to a reference spectrum?

Stefano

Lee, Woonghee

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May 16, 2025, 1:39:54 AMMay 16
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Hi Stefano,

 

Just uploaded the new script “normalize_spectrum_script.py” that you can use from Poky Notepad “Pn”.

 

File -> Poky Scripts -> Find Additional …

 

It will be there. Ctrl or CMD + b to run.

 

Best,

 

Woonghee Lee, I.E.I.P., M.S., Ph.D.

 

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stefano ciurli

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May 16, 2025, 1:55:31 AMMay 16
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Hi Woonghee,

 

Thank you for the speedy response. This script produces a new spectrum.ucsf that one needs to load back into the project, and that is fine.

 

My idea was to simply plot the existing spectra in a project (relaxation study) without having to produce a new spectrum.ucsf. Moreover, the script allows me to normalize one spectrum wrt a reference spectrum, and not a series of spectra at once.

 

Stefano

Lee, Woonghee

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May 16, 2025, 2:16:35 AMMay 16
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Hi Stefano,

 

Generating normalized spectra would indeed be more convenient if you want to plot specific regions as you like when combined with synchronization ("yt"), uniform contour levels ("uc"), and uniform view size ("us"). I was thinking of simply plotting a bunch of selected spectra, but where to plot would be unclear unless you only plot the full extent. So, I’ve uploaded the updated version (with the same script name) that supports multiple spectra at once.

stefano ciurli

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May 16, 2025, 2:48:35 AMMay 16
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Thank you, Woonghee!

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