the truth!: radlibs plot with chinese commies to control u.s. economy and bear stearns
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22362982/
China controlling more of U.S. economy
Country leads surge of foreign investments in Wall Street banks
The Associated Press
updated 4:21 p.m. CT, Fri., Dec. 21, 2007
NEW YORK - There's a good reason schools across the country are scrambling to find people who can teach Chinese: It's
quickly becoming business' second language as Wall Street seeks to tap China's $1.3 trillion in foreign reserves.
China has been making increasingly aggressive investments in some of the world's most prestigious financial companies in
recent months - most of them American. Morgan Stanley, Bear Stearns, Blackstone Group, and Britain's Barclays have all
negotiated major stakes by Chinese government-controlled investment funds.
Investment banks ailing from the subprime mortgage mess are looking for money to shore up their balance sheets. And
China is leading a surge of strategic investments from Asia and the Middle East that so far have sunk about $25 billion
into Wall Street banks.
That's just the start of what some believe is a dramatic reversal of financial power in the shadow of Wall Street's
credit turmoil.
"Both Chinese private and government interests are controlling more and more of the U.S. economy, and this is a result
of the big trade and budget deficits we have," said Alan Donziger, professor of economics at Villanova School of
Business. "These investments will make the U.S. somewhat less independent, but this is inevitable when we live in a
global economy."
To be sure, Wall Street's current predicament is "our own doing," he said. Turmoil in the credit markets have been
fueled by defaults on subprime mortgages, and that's caused the Federal Reserve to attempt a bailout of the industry
through interest rate cuts.
Lower interest rates have caused the dollar to slide in value against other major currencies. And, for foreign
governments, the devalued dollar makes investments in these financial institutions cheap.
In the 1980s, Japanese investors snapped up real estate and invested in businesses across a number of sectors. This new
wave of foreign investment is different because Asian and Middle Eastern governments are taking stakes in financial
institutions - a cornerstone of the U.S. economy.
China agreed to pay $5 billion for a 9.9 percent stake in Morgan Stanley, and those securities pay 9 percent a year
until they convert to shares in 2010. That translates to a gain of about $450 million of cash next year.
But, for Morgan Stanley investors, the infusion of new stock two years from now will dilute their shares - and
potentially make owning Morgan Stanley's securities less valuable. The same can be said about other banks that receive
foreign investments.
The deals have been structured so that the sovereign funds are passive investors with no seat on the board, and this
escapes regulatory scrutiny. This week President Bush said Thursday he was "fine" with foreign investors snapping up big
stakes in U.S. banks and financial firms.
By keeping investments under 10 percent, it does not trip an automatic review by the government. Bush, and others,
believe the injection of foreign capital helps keep the banks competitive and restores faith in an industry beaten down
this year.
"These are non-controlling investments, provides capital, and really is a statement of confidence," said John Douglas, a
partner with law firm Paul Hastings who heads its global bank regulatory practice. "There's a lot of good things here."
But, some banking analysts believe these government-sponsored funds might get more say than the banks are admitting.
"The Chinese are putting $5 billion into Morgan Stanley without there being some kind of quid pro quo of what they're
going to get other than interest on their investment," said Dick Bove, an analyst with Punk Ziegler & Co. "It's part of
a major shift in the worldwide financial system that I think will be very negative to the U.S."
He said these kind of investments are not over, and expects to see others surface next year. In some cases, investment
banks that have already received investments might strike other deals to increase capital.
Next up? Speculation swept through Wall Street on Friday that Merrill Lynch & Co. is on the hunt for a foreign
investment to help cushion what could be a huge fourth-quarter writedown in January.
"The whole situation has changed with financial power moving dramatically toward China and the Middle East, and that
will have significant impact over time," Bove said.
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Deckard
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>China controlling more of U.S. economy
Kung Pao Chicken!
lora...@cs.com
> the truth!: radlibs who hate america plot with chinese commies to control u.s. economy
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22362982/
>
> China controlling more of U.S. economy
> Country leads surge of foreign investments in Wall Street banks
> The Associated Press
> updated 4:21 p.m. CT, Fri., Dec. 21, 2007
> NEW YORK - There's a good reason schools across the country are scrambling to find people who can teach Chinese: It's
> quickly becoming business' second language as Wall Street seeks to tap China's $1.3 trillion in foreign reserves.
> China has been making increasingly aggressive investments in some of the world's most prestigious financial companies in
> recent months - most of them American. Morgan Stanley, Bear Stearns, Blackstone Group, and Britain's Barclays have all
> negotiated major stakes by Chinese government-controlled investment funds.
> Investment banks ailing from the subprime mortgage mess are looking for money to shore up their balance sheets. And
> China is leading a surge of strategic investments from Asia and the Middle East that so far have sunk about $25 billion
> into Wall Street banks.
Oooops...
Since when are neocon Wall Streeters called 'radlibs', dummy?
It's the neocons and the mongrelized republicon party that has caused
this.
Deckard
>Since when are neocon Wall Streeters called 'radlibs', dummy?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638
BARACK OBAMA (D)
Top Contributors
Goldman Sachs $474,428
http://opensecrets.org/softmoney/softcomp2.asp?state=NY&txtName=Goldman+Sachs&txtCycle=2000
Goldman Sachs
SOFT MONEY DONATIONS:
NOTE: The donations listed may be made by individuals associated with
the organization as well as by the organization itself.
To Democrats: $636,250 (89%)
To Republicans: $81,250 (11%)
mark...@earthlink.net
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:52:50 -0700 (PDT), lorad...@cs.com mumbled:
>
> >Since when are neocon Wall Streeters called 'radlibs', dummy?
>
> http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638
>
> BARACK OBAMA (D)
> Top Contributors
> Goldman Sachs $474,428
>
>
> Goldman Sachs
> SOFT MONEY DONATIONS:
> NOTE: The donations listed may be made by individuals associated with
> the organization as well as by the organization itself.
>
> To Democrats: $636,250 (89%)
> To Republicans: $81,250 (11%)
The Democrats control both Houses and are likely to gain even greater
control this November, which they can use restore strong regulation.
Who did you think they were going be giving money to curry favor, the
soon to be more toothless Republicans? I assure you most of the money
went to the Republicans when they were getting us into this mess.
Deckard
mumbled:
>On Mar 17, 1:13 pm, Deckard <r...@li.cant> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:52:50 -0700 (PDT), lorad...@cs.com mumbled:
>>
>> >Since when are neocon Wall Streeters called 'radlibs', dummy?
>>
>> http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638
>>
>> BARACK OBAMA (D)
>> Top Contributors
>> Goldman Sachs $474,428
>>
>> http://opensecrets.org/softmoney/softcomp2.asp?state=NY&txtName=Goldm...
>>
>> Goldman Sachs
>> SOFT MONEY DONATIONS:
>> NOTE: The donations listed may be made by individuals associated with
>> the organization as well as by the organization itself.
>>
>> To Democrats: $636,250 (89%)
>> To Republicans: $81,250 (11%)
>
>The Democrats control both Houses and are likely to gain even greater
>control this November, which they can use restore strong regulation.
Right...
>Who did you think they were going be giving money to curry favor, the
>soon to be more toothless Republicans? I assure you most of the money
>went to the Republicans when they were getting us into this mess.
And the Dems are immune to human nature aren't they Elliot?