Quality Office phone equipment ?
Michael L
Gibson Prichard
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Howard White
I have been removed from the office phone orbit for some years now. The
primo provider of open source hardware, Digium, was purchased by the
Canadian company Sangoma. You will hear much grumbling from me in
regards to the "open source" telephony environment because of the
efforts of Sangoma.
May I recommend that you contact my former employees Jeremy Apple and
Matt Lloyd at MagicAppleTech <www.magicappletech.com> and work with them
to solve your office phone situation.
Howard
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Mark J. Bailey
If you go VoIP, a large client of mine deployed these at several branch warehouses and their staff loves them. Multi-line and range is very good too (at least in our experience).
What I like about ordering them off Amazon is the 30 day return (as, as always, YMMV). 😊
Also, been having really decent luck so far running XCP-NG 8.3 (https://xcp-ng.org/) on a Beelink i3 minipc “host” at some of the remote branches, with FreePBX 17 (https://freepbx.org/ - the free stuff only) installed on a Debian 12 as one of the virtual machine (VM) “guests” on it.
What’s nice to me about FreePBX being a VM is that I can manipulate the FreePBX VM remotely (like snapshotting before upgrading, linux console access, etc), as some of these branch offices are in other states. A Beelink device is tiny yet solid, and is easily handling a small branch office with 5-10 phones, no problem.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DF7FFN22?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
I know a lot folks like the cloud VoIP approach these days, but I still like on-premise deployments. And you can pretty much “trunk” (link) a FreePBX to any VoIP provider out there.
I know this is likely a bit more than what I think you’re seeking here, but it has been a solid approach for me. And it’s still all Linux (even the Yealink)! 😊
My $0.02.
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Mark J. Bailey
Proxmox and XCP-NG close cousins. I have intended to give Proxmox a try, but just haven’t yet. Been using XCP-NG for YEARS and it seems to just work. Really like the linux ‘xe’ command line API/toolstack interfacing tools that go along with. And Xen Orchestra free-build is also very nice: https://forums.lawrencesystems.com/t/how-to-build-xen-orchestra-from-sources-2024/19913
Just like with most any cloud VoIP service, you can pretty much use any VoIP phone device with FreePBX. This client also uses Polycom VVX models throughout. They did pay for the commercial endpoint manager to make it easier to configure all the Polycoms. That was worth the $s.
Good luck!
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Howard Coles Jr.
The only problem with XCP-NG is the lack of automation support
(Ansible, etc.) for deploys, decoms, etc. and legacy Linux VM
support. (Not that I blame them on that last one). I thought
their setup was top notch, but it doesn't seem like their
community is growing as fast I initially thought it was.
ProxMox is really good, but it lacks a Load balancer (built in) to auto migrate VMs based on CPU/RAM use. It also doesn't support snapshots on LVM storage (what you'd have to use if you want truly shared SAN storage) and that's a bummer. I'd love it if they had a wizard for migrating from other KVM solutions as well, but so far it's just for VMware. I'm particularly fond of the fact that it runs on Debian.
However, proxmox and XCP-NG are a long way apart. Proxmox is a
KVM variant, XCP-NG is Xen based. Proxmox makes every hypervisor
a manager (love that part), XCP-NG has a separate Orchestra
(Manager) although they are working on a basic manager on the
Hypervisor. XCP networking is configured at the cluster level,
but most of that for Proxmox is done on each Hypervisor. The
great thing about both is you can run 'em for free and get the
most of the features. My worry is that with Red Hat giving up on
ovirt
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Mark J. Bailey
Latest XCP-NG 8.3, as you note Howard, does now include “XO Lite” web admin builtin with each install. I guess they’re trying to compete with the likes of ESXi in this regard. And IMHO, it’s long overdue!
I always place a source build of the full-blown Xen Orchestra web management tool on a VM at remote sites as well. Above you can see the new XCenter-like layout that XO is adopting. I think it will be much better.
Yes, I knew Proxmox was KVM. And I too wonder where Red Hat will go with ovirt, though I admit I’ve not really ever considered it. In fact, I might even try and load up an OpenStack set of nodes here soon too just for grins. I also wonder if Ansible playbooks couldn’t be constructed to make us of the Xen/Xensource API (‘xl’, ‘xm’ and ‘xe’ command line tools)?
On a separate, but related note, I find it interesting that iX Systems started out with K8s (Kubernetes Charts) in their Linux-based TrueNAS Scale product for their “apps” (plugins) containers. Then switched to Docker after a lot of customer pressure over compatibility, image offerings, etc. And is now about to switch again to Incus for LXD-like LXC containers (and I would guess they could layer Docker support therein maybe?).
At any length, virtualization in the Linux world has certainly not been a tosser! 😊
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Michael L
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