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Literary and Debating Society, NLSIU

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Sep 30, 2011, 4:28:04 AM9/30/11
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Hello All,

We are pleased to open offerings for this season.

IIT-Bombay.
4 teams+1 Novice team. (14th-16th Oct)
Adjudicators: Just turn up for the event.
(for details. http://www.facebook.com/groups/197412606977178/ )


Offering Oxford (10th-12th Nov.) & Cambridge (18th-19th Nov.)
Two teams and Two adjs. for Oxford
Three teams and 2 Adjs. for Cambridge.

(Deadline:- 3rd October,2011- 11:59 pm)

Please apply on the group itself. It just makes things a lot easier.

Sounak Sarkar

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Sep 30, 2011, 5:02:49 AM9/30/11
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Applying. 
Badri (5), Viraj (2) and Sounak (4). 
As a team (surprise!)

What's the criteria for offering? Last year's ranks? This year's individual ranks? Does this count against us in this year's offering policy? In which case, we might have to clarify. In which case this is only a tentative application.
--
Sounak Sarkar
IV Year B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)
National Law School of India University
Bangalore

Sounak Sarkar

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Sep 30, 2011, 5:03:10 AM9/30/11
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the app was for IIT Bombay

siddhartha basu

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Sep 30, 2011, 9:03:11 AM9/30/11
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The ranks will be out before 3rd. So apps will be decided according to
that. Waiting for UT to get back to us.


--
______________________________________________________________________________
Siddhartha Basu
NLSIU,Bangalore.

Bhargavi Raman

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Sep 30, 2011, 1:33:24 PM9/30/11
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Applying for IIT-B
Radhika, Vinodini, Bhargavi as a team.
--
Bhargavi Raman
IV Year, B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University
Bangalore

Mobile: 9986697310


Anish Mohanty

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Oct 1, 2011, 4:51:51 AM10/1/11
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Applying for siddhant, mansi and ritika. IIT B Novice Team Slot.

--
Sent from my mobile device

Siddhant Bhatt

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Oct 1, 2011, 6:17:08 AM10/1/11
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^ Confirming application. Mansi, Ritika, Siddhant. IIT - B, Novice Team Slot.

Thanks.
--
Siddhant Bhatt
National Law School of India University, Bangalore.
Handset: +91 9731889670


Anil Sebastian

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Oct 1, 2011, 6:50:34 AM10/1/11
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Applying for IIT-B: Mainak, A.Basu and Anil (as a team)

siddhartha basu

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Oct 1, 2011, 11:04:06 AM10/1/11
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Applying for priyanka,anindita,mriganki. (Team)

Abhinav Sekhri

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Oct 2, 2011, 12:52:25 AM10/2/11
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applying for fajr, sekhri and bala (team)

Badrinarayanan Seetharaman

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Oct 2, 2011, 12:55:40 AM10/2/11
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One sec. Team offerings are open for the ones that took part in band one selections as a team. The others are in the nature of individual applications. For both madan et al and sekhri. That said, the enthusiasm is heartening!

Abhinav Sekhri

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Oct 2, 2011, 1:02:34 AM10/2/11
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okay...so applying for all three but not as a team

Mansi

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Oct 2, 2011, 7:25:16 AM10/2/11
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Applying for Mansi, Siddhant and Ritika as individual applicants. All
three are novices.

Thanks.

On Oct 2, 10:02 am, Abhinav Sekhri <abhinavsek...@gmail.com> wrote:
> okay...so applying for all three but not as a team
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Badrinarayanan Seetharaman
>
>
>
> <badrinarayanan....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One sec. Team offerings are open for the ones that took part in band one
> > selections as a team. The others are in the nature of individual
> > applications. For both madan et al and sekhri. That said, the enthusiasm is
> > heartening!
>
> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Abhinav Sekhri <abhinavsek...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> applying for fajr, sekhri and bala (team)
>
> >> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:34 PM, siddhartha basu
> >> <siddharthabasu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Applying for priyanka,anindita,mriganki. (Team)
>
> >> > --
>
> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________­___
> >> > Siddhartha Basu
> >> > NLSIU,Bangalore.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mansi

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Oct 2, 2011, 7:26:24 AM10/2/11
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^That application was for IIT-Bombay.
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Abhinav Sekhri

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Oct 2, 2011, 7:41:38 AM10/2/11
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mine too was for iit-b

also...applying for oxford and cambridge (rank not out yet)
sekhri

siddhartha basu

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Oct 2, 2011, 8:58:02 AM10/2/11
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Applying for Vijay. Ox-Bridge.

Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 9:52:02 AM10/2/11
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Ritika is a novice?! holy...

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 6:28 PM, siddhartha basu <siddhart...@gmail.com> wrote:
Applying for Vijay. Ox-Bridge.

priyanka.hu...@gmail.com

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:03:16 AM10/2/11
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Sounak. Reply to bsd mail? Please? Need that spreadsheet for testimonials

Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone


From: Sounak Sarkar <sounak...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:22:02 +0530
Subject: Re: Offerings.

Badrinarayanan Seetharaman

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Oct 2, 2011, 9:59:35 AM10/2/11
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some of it was on the lnd account. (no idea how i knew that.)

priyanka.hu...@gmail.com

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Thanks :) sounaaaaaaaak!

Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone


From: Badrinarayanan Seetharaman <badrinara...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:29:35 +0530

Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:11:29 AM10/2/11
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since everybody's following this thread, guys who haven't been to ox-bridge totally must. For the following reasons...

  1. It's the cheapest (which is really cheap) Band 1 debate. That's not actually saying much. BOTH these debates are a couple of the world's finest and most competitive debates. Every team that hopes to be crowned world champions in the year attend these two debates. Last year's finalists and semi-finalists consisted of three worlds finalist teams, two semi finalist teams, and the eventual winner of last year's worlds only came runners up in Cambridge. They also made Oxford Finals.
  2. It's perfectly timed. From the lawschool point of view, no clash with projects or exams, and ends right before Legala and SF happen. From the travelling point of view, London and the neighborhood is just about perfect. It's not too cold, still has sunlight, and is usually around the time when christmas celebrations begin (and the discounts :) )
  3. Cambridge and Oxford are a week apart tournament wise, and 90 minutes apart travel wise. In between, you get 5 days to enjoy yourself. That's two band one debates and three famous cities all in the same week, with very few classes missed, AND an awesome trip around the place.
  4. Cambridge IS nailable! For all those of you who think it's a waste of money, Uttara and aditya verma broke in Cambridge till the semis, and Shreya Aren's team almost did. The judging is world class (given the only people allowed to break and chair matches require to have broken at Worlds and other major European circuit debates).
  5. The best part of Ox-bridge is - Judging there is as, and perhaps even more, productive as debating there. When i went there, i got to judge in the same panel as Jonathan Maynard, Alex Just, Art Ward, Sheng Wu Lee and some australian worlds finalist (if you don't know who they are, shame on you!) It's consensus based adjudication, which means you can't get the decision wrong, AND can learn a huge load on how to adjudicate from the world's best!
  6. Major point: It's in the British Parliamentary format. If you're really interested in debating, you cannot miss doing this format. It's easily the toughest and the most challenging format, and will make you improve exponentially. We hardly do this format otherwise, and it'll be awesome practice if you also plan to do Asians BP later in the trimester.
  7. Oxford has an awesome break party with unlimited pizzas, and discounted access to awesome english delicacies around the union. More over, it's your chance to meet your seniors at Oxford. It's fun being invited to the dinner there. It's exclusive an on invitation only, and makes you feel special. Break night also has a jazz performance while you eat! (i swear).
  8. Cambrdige has a fucking HOGROAST on break night! It's true! It's actually a hogroast! And you get fresh pieces with bacon if you cut the line, indian style.
  9. For the few of you who might just buy it for this last reason, the ATP World Tour in tennis happens right after Cambridge ends. So one extra day, and you get to watch TWO of the worlds top 8 tennis players playing in the London O2 arena (which is apparently classic).

There. I might've missed a few more great reasons, which i shall duly add as and when i am reminded of them. Please do apply! It's an awesome set of debates. Total expense comes to around a maximum of 36k to 40k with airfare, but without travel expenses for the time in between.

Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:12:15 AM10/2/11
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i'll need a couple of days for that. it's on my computer. need to fix the computer first.

Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:16:06 AM10/2/11
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HOW could i forget!

You get to watch the Oxford Union Debate in the Union building, a privilege you can only otherwise get if you study at Oxford AND pay to be a member of the Union. 

This union debate has the actual format of 20 minutes speeches. The guys speaking there are people you cite in your projects. The student speakers there are literally the best speakers in the world :P Usually the top two Oxford debaters. 

Radhika Chitkara

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:19:26 AM10/2/11
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It is also the debate where Sounak got drunk and locked himself
outside the window, on the ledge, of one of the hostel rooms.

On Oct 2, 7:16 pm, Sounak Sarkar <sounaksar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HOW could i forget!
>
> You get to watch the Oxford Union Debate in the Union building, a privilege
> you can only otherwise get if you study at Oxford AND pay to be a member of
> the Union.
>
> This union debate has the actual format of 20 minutes speeches. The guys
> speaking there are people you cite in your projects. The student speakers
> there are literally the best speakers in the world :P Usually the top two
> Oxford debaters.
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Sounak Sarkar <sounaksar...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > i'll need a couple of days for that. it's on my computer. need to fix the
> > computer first.
>
> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:35 PM, <priyanka.hussaini.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> ** Thanks :) sounaaaaaaaak!
>
> >> Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From: * Badrinarayanan Seetharaman <badrinarayanan....@gmail.com>
> >> *Sender: * nls-debate-and-ad...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Date: *Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:29:35 +0530
> >> *To: *<nls-debate-and-ad...@googlegroups.com>
> >> *ReplyTo: * nls-debate-and-ad...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject: *Re: Offerings.
>
> >> some of it was on the lnd account. (no idea how i knew that.)
>
> >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:33 PM, <priyanka.hussaini.ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> ** Sounak. Reply to bsd mail? Please? Need that spreadsheet for
> >>> testimonials
>
> >>> Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From: * Sounak Sarkar <sounaksar...@gmail.com>
> >>> *Sender: * nls-debate-and-ad...@googlegroups.com
> >>> *Date: *Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:22:02 +0530
> >>> *To: *<nls-debate-and-ad...@googlegroups.com>
> >>> *ReplyTo: * nls-debate-and-ad...@googlegroups.com
> >>> *Subject: *Re: Offerings.

priyanka.hu...@gmail.com

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^ like
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-----Original Message-----
From: Radhika Chitkara <radhika....@gmail.com>
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Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:28:27 AM10/2/11
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One LAST thing.

There's the trailer of life. I just CANNOT describe how good it is. It's a burger place that opens at 12am and shuts at 4am. It's at both places (Ox and Bridge). It's...sublime. If you go, you shouldn't miss it.

Also, i was only slightly buzzed. :P And i wasn't locked out. If i were, i'd be frozen, like ice.

Radhika Chitkara

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:31:42 AM10/2/11
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No one said you were locked out of the window, on the ledge, of a hostel room NAKED.
--
Radhika Chitkara
IV Year, B.A., LL.B.(Hons.)
NLSIU, Bangalore

Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:34:33 AM10/2/11
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hmm. true. but it was late in the night. and, well, for obvious reasons, internal heating wouldn't quite help.

Sounak Sarkar

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:37:06 AM10/2/11
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that said, the view from out there was fantastic! do try it while you're there. christ church. second floor.

Radhika Chitkara

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:37:57 AM10/2/11
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Haahahahaha.

He uses this to pimp the debate TOO!

Megha M

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Oct 2, 2011, 10:41:50 AM10/2/11
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Applying for Oxford-Cambridge!
Rank 43, I think.

On Oct 2, 7:11 pm, Sounak Sarkar <sounaksar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> since everybody's following this thread, guys who haven't been to ox-bridge
> totally must. For the following reasons...
>
>    1. It's the cheapest (which is really cheap) Band 1 debate. That's not
>    actually saying much. BOTH these debates are a couple of the world's finest
>    and most competitive debates. *Every *team that hopes to be crowned world
>    champions in the year attend these two debates. Last year's finalists and
>    semi-finalists consisted of three worlds finalist teams, two semi finalist
>    teams, and the eventual winner of last year's worlds only came runners up in
>    Cambridge. They also made Oxford Finals.
>    2. It's perfectly timed. From the lawschool point of view, no clash with
>    projects or exams, and ends right before Legala and SF happen. From the
>    travelling point of view, London and the neighborhood is just about perfect.
>    It's not too cold, still has sunlight, and is usually around the time when
>    christmas celebrations begin (and the discounts :) )
>    3. Cambridge and Oxford are a week apart tournament wise, and 90 minutes
>    apart travel wise. In between, you get 5 days to enjoy yourself. That's two
>    band one debates and three famous cities all in the same week, with very few
>    classes missed, AND an awesome trip around the place.
>    4. Cambridge IS nailable! For all those of you who think it's a waste of
>    money, Uttara and aditya verma broke in Cambridge till the semis, and Shreya
>    Aren's team almost did. The judging is world class (given the only people
>    allowed to break and chair matches require to have broken at Worlds and
>    other major European circuit debates).
>    5. The best part of Ox-bridge is - Judging there is as, and perhaps even
>    more, productive as debating there. When i went there, i got to judge in the
>    same panel as Jonathan Maynard, Alex Just, Art Ward, Sheng Wu Lee and some
>    australian worlds finalist (if you don't know who they are, shame on you!)
>    It's consensus based adjudication, which means you can't get the decision
>    wrong, AND can learn a huge load on how to adjudicate from the world's best!
>    6. Major point: It's in the British Parliamentary format. If you're
>    really interested in debating, you cannot miss doing this format. It's
>    easily the toughest and the most challenging format, and will make you
>    improve exponentially. We hardly do this format otherwise, and it'll be
>    awesome practice if you also plan to do Asians BP later in the trimester.
>    7. Oxford has an awesome break party with unlimited pizzas, and
>    discounted access to awesome english delicacies around the union. More over,
>    it's your chance to meet your seniors at Oxford. It's fun being invited to
>    the dinner there. It's exclusive an on invitation only, and makes you feel
>    special. Break night also has a jazz performance while you eat! (i swear).
>    8. Cambrdige has a fucking HOGROAST on break night! It's true! It's
>    actually a hogroast! And you get fresh pieces with bacon if you cut the
>    line, indian style.
>    9. For the few of you who might just buy it for this last reason, the ATP
>    World Tour in tennis happens right after Cambridge ends. So one extra day,
>    and you get to watch TWO of the worlds top 8 tennis players playing in the
>    London O2 arena (which is apparently classic).
>
> There. I might've missed a few more great reasons, which i shall duly add as
> and when i am reminded of them. Please do apply! It's an awesome set of
> debates. Total expense comes to around a maximum of 36k to 40k with airfare,
> but without travel expenses for the time in between.
>

dj mainak

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Oct 2, 2011, 1:13:16 PM10/2/11
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Sebastian's done the honors 4 us but i just wanted to feel involved!! 
So...Confirming app 4 the 3 of us. 

Radhika Chitkara

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Oct 2, 2011, 1:16:42 PM10/2/11
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Mathur got swayed. Congratulations on your persuasion Sounak. 


On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:43 PM, dj mainak <dj.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sebastian's done the honors 4 us but i just wanted to feel involved!! 
So...Confirming app 4 the 3 of us. 



Badrinarayanan Seetharaman

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Oct 2, 2011, 1:47:55 PM10/2/11
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Ha, i cannot believe it worked.

vijay paul

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Oct 3, 2011, 1:02:58 AM10/3/11
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Vijay V Paul, Applying for Oxford - Cambridge debate . Rank 18 ( Subject to Band 1 debate result.)
--
Vijay Varghese Paul
IIIrd Year BA LLB (Hons.)
National Law School of India University,
Bangalore

Suswagata Roy

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Oct 3, 2011, 1:50:11 AM10/3/11
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How do you apply? Where are the results? What is going on?

Sahil Kher

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Oct 3, 2011, 1:59:41 AM10/3/11
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Genuine query. Is there a reason we're not waiting till the results are out? 

Suswagata Roy

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Why can't you do a real-time googlegroup offering like MCS?

Fajr Dar

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Oct 11, 2011, 6:51:45 AM10/11/11
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Applying for Ox-Bridge.
Rank 13.

I kept trying to figure out how to apply from my e-mail, turns out I
hadn't joined the group. Kashmir is messing with my brain :|

On Oct 3, 11:01 am, Suswagata Roy <roy.suswag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why can't you do a real-time googlegroup offering like MCS?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Sahil Kher <kher.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Genuine query. Is there a reason we're not waiting till the results are
> > out?
>
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Suswagata Roy <roy.suswag...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> How do you apply? Where are the results? What is going on?
>
> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:32 AM, vijay paul <viju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Vijay V Paul, Applying for Oxford - Cambridge debate . Rank 18 ( Subject
> >>> to Band 1 debate result.)
>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Badrinarayanan Seetharaman <
> >>> badrinarayanan....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Ha, i cannot believe it worked.
>
> >>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Radhika Chitkara <
> >>>> radhika.chitk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Mathur got swayed. Congratulations on your persuasion Sounak.
>

Suswagata Roy

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Oct 11, 2011, 7:07:50 AM10/11/11
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Listen. Can we please halt this random applications of debates and have a policy and what all are being offered?

Abhinav Sekhri

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Oct 11, 2011, 9:41:47 AM10/11/11
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withdrawing my app for ox-bridge
sekhri

megha mathur

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Oct 12, 2011, 2:24:45 AM10/12/11
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Can you guys please confirm Oxbridge teams so we know what's happening and can accordingly book tickets/apply for visas etc? 
Thanks! 

Suswagata Roy

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Oct 12, 2011, 2:29:15 AM10/12/11
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Can LnD please decide what is on offer so people can choose accordingly? Can LnD please mail a policy so everyone knows what the fuck is going on?

siddhartha basu

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Oct 12, 2011, 2:40:46 AM10/12/11
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The Ox-Bridge team as it stands now is Megha Mathur, Vijay V Paul, Fajr Dar and Juhi Gupta.
--
______________________________________________________________________________
Siddhartha Basu
NLSIU,Bangalore. 

siddhartha basu

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Oct 12, 2011, 3:20:33 AM10/12/11
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Dear Susu,

We are just waiting for confirmation from the different deb soc's from around the country to ensure that we do not end up offering debates which won't end up happening. We want to prevent any Loyala type situations from happening. And be rest assured about the policy. Its just been a bit difficult to decide given the circumstances. But be rest assured we are trying to ensure that everyone's interests are kept in mind. Give us a day or two. 

Basu.

megha mathur

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Oct 12, 2011, 3:30:06 AM10/12/11
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Thanks Basu :) 
Fajr is still not confirming, being the luzr that she is. 
It's teams of two right? 
Also, how much will it tentatively cost us? My parents need an estimate. 
Thanks! 
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