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Jochen Baier

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:47 AM1/9/04
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hi bret,

i read you post on the list from april.whats the current status from the system
tray for xchat? i looked at a few programs which library they using and found
out that many of them using eggtrayicon. is not that hard to implement a basic
system tray support with this api.

let me please know if you stoped developing the tray. then i will make a basic
system tray support with eggtrayicon...


somebody else working on that ?


regards jochen

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Bret McMillan

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:47 AM1/9/04
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On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:24:21PM +0200, Jochen Baier wrote:

> i read you post on the list from april.whats the current status from the system
> tray for xchat? i looked at a few programs which library they using and found
> out that many of them using eggtrayicon. is not that hard to implement a basic
> system tray support with this api.

Kinda got sidetracked... got married ;)

Anyway, I played around with it to learn some more about gtk, then got
bogged down about behavior and never made much more progress.

Issues to consider:

o single notification, or per channel?
o notification lifetime
o zooming to xchat (across workspaces?)

> let me please know if you stoped developing the tray. then i will make a basic
> system tray support with eggtrayicon...

K. Think I still have the tidbit of code sitting on one of my
machines at home. I'll dig it out and send it to you if you want.

God only knows how many Gnome HIG violations I avoided w/ my
nuptials. -<g>-

> somebody else working on that ?

Not that I'm aware of.

--Bret

Jochen Baier

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:48 AM1/9/04
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Zitat von Bret McMillan <br...@blueraja.devel.redhat.com>:

> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:24:21PM +0200, Jochen Baier wrote:
>
> > i read you post on the list from april.whats the current status from the
> system
> > tray for xchat? i looked at a few programs which library they using and
> found
> > out that many of them using eggtrayicon. is not that hard to implement a
> basic
> > system tray support with this api.
>
> Kinda got sidetracked... got married ;)


congratulation ;9



>
> Anyway, I played around with it to learn some more about gtk, then got
> bogged down about behavior and never made much more progress.
>
> Issues to consider:
>
> o single notification, or per channel?
> o notification lifetime
> o zooming to xchat (across workspaces?)
>
> > let me please know if you stoped developing the tray. then i will make a
> basic
> > system tray support with eggtrayicon...
>
> K. Think I still have the tidbit of code sitting on one of my
> machines at home. I'll dig it out and send it to you if you want.

yes that would be nice

> God only knows how many Gnome HIG violations I avoided w/ my
> nuptials. -<g>-


mmh maybe i should marry too, i let u know in 1-2 weeks ;9


regards jochen

Mohammed Sameer

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:48 AM1/9/04
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I'd be happy if i can offer help, I have a fair knowledge with Gtk+
And I somehow understands how the system tray protocol works.

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Shaun Guth

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:48 AM1/9/04
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On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 12:24, Jochen Baier wrote:
> somebody else working on that ?

Awhile ago a friend of mine implemented support for it against xchat cvs
and told Peter Zelezny about it via IRC. Peter basically told him that
it was a pointless feature and was going to be written as a module by
someone else (I assume bret?). I just think that a working (even if it
was rough) implementation should have been considered over vaporware.

I'll see if I can get him in touch with you, I hope you follow through,
I'd really like being able to put xchat in the tray when I'm busy on my
machine and don't feel like chatting.

One other suggestion - if you're minimizing it to the tray, you usually
want it out of your way. I would tie the applet notification to the
same routines that check for highlighting messages or beep on privmsg.

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Bret McMillan

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:48 AM1/9/04
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On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:59:38PM -0700, Shaun Guth wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 12:24, Jochen Baier wrote:
> > somebody else working on that ?
>
> Awhile ago a friend of mine implemented support for it against xchat cvs
> and told Peter Zelezny about it via IRC. Peter basically told him that
> it was a pointless feature and was going to be written as a module by
> someone else (I assume bret?).

Don't recall ever speaking w/ him about it.

> I just think that a working (even if it
> was rough) implementation should have been considered over vaporware.

If your friend's got something up and running, I (and I wager others)
would be happy to play with it some :)

All mine did was pop something into the system tray on name
highlight. Pretty tiny, and focused on how I do my work.

--Bret

Peter Zelezny

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:50 AM1/9/04
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:59:38 -0700
Shaun Guth <l8n...@l8nite.net> wrote:

> > somebody else working on that ?
>
> Awhile ago a friend of mine implemented support for it against xchat cvs
> and told Peter Zelezny about it via IRC. Peter basically told him that
> it was a pointless feature and was going to be written as a module by
> someone else (I assume bret?). I just think that a working (even if it
> was rough) implementation should have been considered over vaporware.

You all missed it :) ... http://www.blight.tk (click on the News forum).

and even an RPM at http://xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/

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Peter Zelezny.

Jon-Pierre Gentil

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:51 AM1/9/04
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On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 14:52, Bret McMillan wrote:

> Issues to consider:
>
> o single notification, or per channel?

Single. Or configurable to be both. Eight to ten notification icons
blinking in my tray will drive me mad. :)

> o notification lifetime

Configurable. From infinite to nearly 0.

> o zooming to xchat (across workspaces?)

Eh, I don't see the need personally.

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Jochen Baier

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:14:53 AM1/9/04
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>
> You all missed it :) ... http://www.blight.tk (click on the News forum).
>
> and even an RPM at http://xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/


thanks for the link, looks great ;)


hi mohammed do you dog me ? ;) (he is responsible that i need a tray icon for
xchat because he wrote a nice system tray dockapp for windowmaker.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/peksystray/ )


regards jochen

Bret McMillan

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Jan 9, 2004, 10:15:21 AM1/9/04
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On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:18:42PM +1000, Peter Zelezny wrote:

> You all missed it :) ... http://www.blight.tk (click on the News forum).
>
> and even an RPM at http://xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/

Totally and utterly missed it. Trying it out now. :)

--Bret

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