Dutch prepaid SIM info required
Alex S
the Schiphol Airport and I would appreciate any suggestions as to
which card to purchase:
My need are:
1. Good coverage at Schiphol Airport.
2. Free incoming calls.
3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
4. Low-cost domestic rates.
5. Long service life without requiring a refill.
I would also appreciate any information as to where to buy it from at
Schiphol.
Thanks!
Alex
M.Wielaert
Since the KPN prepaid simcards need a refill every 6 months, I would
suggest Vodafone. I don't know if there's any chance of buying a
Vodafonesim at Schiphol though. Should not be to hard to order one on
the Internet before you leave... have a look at
http://www.gsm.nl/aktie/prepay/izi.htm for instance: E29 with E15 on the
card. I don't know if they deliver outside the Netherlands.
MW
Donald R. Newcomb (Despamed address)
"Alex S" <alex...@onebox.com> wrote in message
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| I plan to buy a Dutch prepaid SIM card to use while I transit through
| the Schiphol Airport and I would appreciate any suggestions as to
| which card to purchase:
|
| My need are:
|
| 1. Good coverage at Schiphol Airport.
At Schiphol, I think every Dutch carrier probably has a signal strong enough
to melt the phone.
| 2. Free incoming calls.
All Dutch carriers will have CPP and thus "free" incoming calls. Of course,
calls to the phone are not "free".
| 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
Don't know about that.
| 4. Low-cost domestic rates.
| 5. Long service life without requiring a refill.
I don't have a cost comparison.
| I would also appreciate any information as to where to buy it from at
| Schiphol.
Last time I was there, when you walked out of customs and headed toward the
train station, there was a shopping mall you walked past/through. In that
area there was an electronics shop. I believe they sold prepaid SIMs.
--
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David Horne
wrote:
> "Alex S" <alex...@onebox.com> wrote in message
> news:vb3o8u81b5o21eltg...@4ax.com...
> | 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
FWIW, I tried calling a UK-based CC card service with a Dutch 0800
number in the Netherlands last week. The call was blocked on the
networks I tried. (I tried 5- maybe that's all of them- not sure.) I
mention this because I'm guessing that the original poster might have
been thinking about using calling cards. If the networks there are clued
up to subscribers using _foreign_ CCs, then they may very well block
domestic ones.
In the UK at least (and the US for that matter) any prepaid service I've
used doesn't have free calls. In the UK, only one of the 4 networks
(orange) allows freephone. (Don't know about the virtual networks.)
David
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Steve Terry
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> Donald R. Newcomb (Despamed address) <DRNe...@attglobal.REMOVE-ME.net>
> wrote:
> > "Alex S" <alex...@onebox.com> wrote in message
> > news:vb3o8u81b5o21eltg...@4ax.com...
>
> > | 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
>
> FWIW, I tried calling a UK-based CC card service with a Dutch 0800
> number in the Netherlands last week. The call was blocked on the
> networks I tried.
>
Which CC ?
one-tel.co.uk Dutch number is blocked
Steve Terry
Philip
<m.wie...@SPAMSICKchello.nl> wrote:
>"Alex S" <alex...@onebox.com> wrote
>
>> I plan to buy a Dutch prepaid SIM card to use while
>> I transit through the Schiphol Airport and I would
>> appreciate any suggestions as to which card to
>> purchase:
>> My need are:
>> 1. Good coverage at Schiphol Airport.
All networks have coverage at Schiphol Airport, the best are NL KPN and NL
LIBERTEL (Vodafone)
>> 2. Free incoming calls...
All 5 networks offer you free incoming calls in the Netherlands.
>> 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
All 5 network offer you free 0800 calls.
>> 4. Low-cost domestic rates.
See the providers websites.
>> 5. Long service life without requiring a refill.
See details below.
>> I would also appreciate any information as to where to
>> buy it from at Schiphol.
With all Dutch prepaid cards you can call 0800 numbers toll-free.
Vodafone (Libertel) 204 04 network starter kit is called 'Vodafone iZi' and
uses GSM900/1800. Recharge once per year. International Roaming is possible
without filling in any forms. WAP is available www.vodafone.nl
KPN (204 08) starter kit is called 'Hi Prepay' and uses GSM900/1800.
Recharge once per half year. International Roaming is possible without
filling in any forms. WAP is NOT available www.hi.nl
Telfort (204 12) starter kit is called 'Pak & Bel' en uses GSM1800 only.
Recharge once per year. International roaming is possible without filling
in any forms. WAP is available www.telfort.nl
Dutchtone (Orange NL) 204 20 network starter kit is called 'AllIn Prepay'
and uses GSM1800 only. Recharge once per year. International roaming is
possible after contacting Customer Service. WAP is NOT available
www.dutchtone.nl
Ben NL 204 16 starter kit is called 'Ben Vrij' and uses GSM1800 only.
International Roaming only is NOT possible, only if you have a Dutch bank
account. WAP is available www.ben.nl
Philip.
Terry Simpson
> In the UK at least (and the US for that matter) any prepaid service I've
> used doesn't have free calls. In the UK, only one of the 4 networks
> (orange) allows freephone. (Don't know about the virtual networks.)
I was under the impression that:
a) Orange UK allowed never allowed free calls to calling card freephone
numbers. Calling card companies worked to foil Orange by creating new
numbers as Orange discovered them.
b) Orange UK has now started charging for all calls to freephone numbers.
marko"_R*E*M*0*V*E*T*H*I*S*P*A*R*T_"@nojunk.ntlworld.com
<ne...@connected-systems.com> wrote:
>"David Horne" <n...@myaddress.co.uk> wrote
>> In the UK at least (and the US for that matter) any prepaid service I've
>> used doesn't have free calls. In the UK, only one of the 4 networks
>> (orange) allows freephone. (Don't know about the virtual networks.)
>
>
>I was under the impression that:
>
>a) Orange UK allowed never allowed free calls to calling card freephone
>numbers. Calling card companies worked to foil Orange by creating new
>numbers as Orange discovered them.
Correct
>
>b) Orange UK has now started charging for all calls to freephone numbers.
>
No, if so they have to give 30 day notice, if they did not you can
claim a refund for your calls, and cancel your contract. (this is
assuming you are on a real orange tariff and not on OVP vodafone ,
cellnet, one2one)
Mark
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Robert Elsinga =8-)
wrote:
>> | 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
All 5 dutch networks do NOT charge for 0800 numbers, but may block
access from mobile phones when the 0800-owner want that.
>FWIW, I tried calling a UK-based CC card service with a Dutch 0800
>number in the Netherlands last week. The call was blocked on the
>networks I tried. (I tried 5- maybe that's all of them- not sure.) I
>mention this because I'm guessing that the original poster might have
>been thinking about using calling cards. If the networks there are clued
>up to subscribers using _foreign_ CCs, then they may very well block
>domestic ones.
So the CC owner blocked the access...
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David Horne
Yes, onetel, as I posted on u.t.m previously. FWIW, onetel insist it's
working fine- no it's not! It was also blocked from a payphone, which I
found extremely annoying.
David Horne
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:51:40 +0000, n...@myaddress.co.uk (David Horne)
> wrote:
>
> >> | 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
>
> All 5 dutch networks do NOT charge for 0800 numbers, but may block
> access from mobile phones when the 0800-owner want that.
Out of interest, does this apply to prepaid as well? The only UK company
which has freephone (orange) charges for it on prepaid.
David Horne
> Robert Elsinga =8-) <nl.te...@elsinga.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:51:40 +0000, n...@myaddress.co.uk (David Horne)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >> | 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
> >
> > All 5 dutch networks do NOT charge for 0800 numbers, but may block
> > access from mobile phones when the 0800-owner want that.
>
> Out of interest, does this apply to prepaid as well? The only UK company
> which has freephone (orange) charges for it on prepaid.
Ah, just saw that answered in another post. Looks like they all have
free 0800 on prepaid as well.
Donald Newcomb
you call the 0800 number totally gratis. The owner of the 0800 number
has agreed to pick up the charge from the wireless carrier. The
long-distance companies can't make any money charging the customer EUR
0.10 per minute and paying the wireless company EUR 0.20 per minute.
So, they don't accept that charge. Sometimes, you can get a free
lunch, but not every day.
Donald Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
"Robert Elsinga =8-)" <nl.te...@elsinga.org> wrote in message news:<fsar8uo7f1mt7lpml...@4ax.com>...
Doctor Bob
<NOpkeule...@zonnet.nl> writes
<Snip>
>With all Dutch prepaid cards you can call 0800 numbers toll-free.
>
>Vodafone (Libertel) 204 04 network starter kit is called 'Vodafone iZi' and
>uses GSM900/1800. Recharge once per year. International Roaming is possible
>without filling in any forms. WAP is available www.vodafone.nl
>
>KPN (204 08) starter kit is called 'Hi Prepay' and uses GSM900/1800.
>Recharge once per half year. International Roaming is possible without
>filling in any forms. WAP is NOT available www.hi.nl
>
>Telfort (204 12) starter kit is called 'Pak & Bel' en uses GSM1800 only.
>Recharge once per year. International roaming is possible without filling
>in any forms. WAP is available www.telfort.nl
>
>Dutchtone (Orange NL) 204 20 network starter kit is called 'AllIn Prepay'
>and uses GSM1800 only. Recharge once per year. International roaming is
>possible after contacting Customer Service. WAP is NOT available
>www.dutchtone.nl
>
>Ben NL 204 16 starter kit is called 'Ben Vrij' and uses GSM1800 only.
>International Roaming only is NOT possible, only if you have a Dutch bank
>account. WAP is available www.ben.nl
>
>Philip.
This is very good info Philip, could you post the charges for
international phone calls please? I am interested in charges from
Holland back to the UK.
(I looked on the web site but my Dutch is none existent <G> )
Many thanks, Bob.
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You can either dump it, use it, give it away or sell it."
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Robert Elsinga =8-)
<ne...@connected-systems.com> wrote:
>I was under the impression that:
>
>a) Orange UK allowed never allowed free calls to calling card freephone
>numbers. Calling card companies worked to foil Orange by creating new
>numbers as Orange discovered them.
I read about that in uk.telecom.mobile and was ROTFLMAO. =8-)
>b) Orange UK has now started charging for all calls to freephone numbers.
Isn't that against the european LAW? 0800 is suppost to be free. You
may *block* access, but never *charge* for it...
Steve Terry
> Steve Terry <g4...@oinospamtesco.net> wrote:
> > "David Horne" <n...@myaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:1f8wkn0.131sb0614e5cqwN%n...@myaddress.co.uk...
> > > Donald R. Newcomb (Despamed address)
<DRNe...@attglobal.REMOVE-ME.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > "Alex S" <alex...@onebox.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:vb3o8u81b5o21eltg...@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > > | 3. Free calls to 0800 numbers.
> > >
> > > FWIW, I tried calling a UK-based CC card service with a Dutch 0800
> > > number in the Netherlands last week. The call was blocked on the
> > > networks I tried.
> > <snip>
> > >
> > Which CC ?
> > one-tel.co.uk Dutch number is blocked
>
> Yes, onetel, as I posted on u.t.m previously. FWIW, onetel insist it's
> working fine- no it's not! It was also blocked from a payphone, which I
> found extremely annoying.
>
> David
>
Then try another UK CC
Steve Terry
David Horne
> If onetel won't give you a new Dutch access number?
> Then try another UK CC
Can't be bothered. Then I might get an other company with access numbers
not working etc. Following someone's suggestion, I got an account with
Boomerang. That would add a 10p surcharge to the incoming call rate,
which isn't too bad at all- still, miss 121's incoming call rate for
most of europe- 20/16. (I suppose that could be OVPd though.)
Robert Elsinga =8-)
wrote:
>> All 5 dutch networks do NOT charge for 0800 numbers, but may block
>> access from mobile phones when the 0800-owner want that.
>
>Out of interest, does this apply to prepaid as well? The only UK company
>which has freephone (orange) charges for it on prepaid.
Yes, it does apply for prepaid too. And for foreigners with foreign
SIMs also. So dialing an 0800 number with your (say) Virgin SIM would
be free here (as far as the dutch networks charge, Virgin could do
anything it wants, including billing...).
Robert Elsinga =8-)
wrote:
>Yes, onetel, as I posted on u.t.m previously. FWIW, onetel insist it's
>working fine- no it's not! It was also blocked from a payphone, which I
>found extremely annoying.
Probably a orange Telfort phonebooth... they block all 0800 numbers
unless screened. And guess how fast they screen...
David Horne
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:04:19 +0000, n...@myaddress.co.uk (David Horne)
> wrote:
>
> >Yes, onetel, as I posted on u.t.m previously. FWIW, onetel insist it's
> >working fine- no it's not! It was also blocked from a payphone, which I
> >found extremely annoying.
>
> Probably a orange Telfort phonebooth... they block all 0800 numbers
> unless screened. And guess how fast they screen...
Yup- it was a telfort phonebooth! :( Thing is, at least where I was in
the airport (then later in Utrecht and Amsterdam) I couldn't find any
non-telfort bxes. Admittedly, I didn't look exhuastively, but then again
I shouldn't _have_ to. Very annoying.
M.Wielaert
> Yup- it was a telfort phonebooth! :( Thing is, at least where I
> was in the airport (then later in Utrecht and Amsterdam) I
> couldn't find any non-telfort bxes. Admittedly, I didn't look
> exhuastively, but then again I shouldn't _have_ to. Very
> annoying.
you probably only looked for one at the stations (Schiphol, Utrecht,
Amsterdam). The railway has an exclusive contract with Telfort for their
phonebooths. They used to be shareholder of Telfort, that's why
probably.
MW
David Horne
That's mostly where, but same thing in a couple of other places. Renders
the whole calling card thing pretty useless for me at any rate. Besides,
stations are quite often places where travellers _need_ to make calls!
:(