8 anon handed out flyers from 2pm - 10pm. The general public was
extremely nice. After just a few minutes, a few high-up Scilons came
out to bullbait us (including Jan, the Dutch org leader, and Julia
Rijnvis, Dutch head of OSA). Shortly after that, they sent out a young
part-timer to counter-flyer, who got quickly sent back inside by the
police (we had a permit; they did not). The part-timer stayed outside
to watch us and we eventually managed to strike up conversation.
Mostly he avoided everything we asked - but after a while, he realized
we might actually know a bit more about Scientology's secrets than
what people'd been telling him, and we kept him talking for over an
hour. He learned about the RPF, about Lisa, about R2-45, OT3,
Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout, Shawn Lonsdale, Flo
Barnett, L. Ron's diaries and "nigger" quotes, and the Sara Hubbard
trial in all its gory detail. He quite suddenly became a lot nicer
after that.
We took a short break to chat with a journalist. At around half past
seven anon returned to the org, to find plenty more Scilons willing to
come out and play. Three of them (including an incredibly kind old
lady) stayed outside to talk with us for two full hours. We didn't
make quite the impact we'd had on the part-timer - but reciting the
Sara Hubbard case worked every single time. They're going to need some
serious repair auditing at the very least. Quite a few Scilons took
(and read) our flyers, asked where they could find more information,
and one even asked which words to search for on YouTube. Also, we
intercepted some people who were just taking their first courses and
convinced them to run away as fast as they could - they were
completely shocked at everything CoS hadn't been telling them.
We did have three separate incidents with Scilons losing their TR-0
for a moment: one anon got his mask nearly pulled off, one got his arm
twisted by an aggressive Scifag, and one got his camera broken when a
Scilon tried to grab it. Luckily the Amsterdam org is literally right
next to a police station, so overall we stayed pretty safe.
So, in summary: we finally got to have a serious, open discussion with
some high-up Scilons, we've learned that CoS Amsterdam is willing to
get violent at times, and we've pissed off an OSA babe.
Pictures and video:
http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/SuperZoaker/Miniraid%2022%20April/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y4_md-u1HM
Boy, did his TRs go out! ;-)
Good work, Dutch Anons!
Good job! Sorry to see the guy lose his temper and break the camera. I
bet he regrets it, too. What was being said that pushed him over the
edge there?
I was wondering that myself as they seem to be having a rather nice
conversation until the gentlemen reached over and grabbed the camera..
then again I can't understand a single thing they are saying! LOL
I can't understand Dutch either, but maybe someone will explain. My
guess is that the Anon was being pretty sarcastic and bullbaiting the
Scieno to a degree. But of course, his training was supposed to handle
that, and resorting to physical violence is considered really shocking
and psychotic in Holland.
Golly, that was rude. --smile--
---
http://wikileaks.se/wiki/Scientology_threatens_Wikileaks_over_secret_cult_bibles
We wanted that on video . . and he keeps on evading the question and
our questions about honesty ;)
And keeps on complaining about the masks (which were no problem before
we took out the cam)
He says "I said it was in the newspaper"
We say: "nope .. only _after_ we pointed that out"
We go in to discussion about the "hate crimes" DVD and some more
stuff.
He denies knowing anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7aePgH0HI
Last 28 seconds . . .
Anon1: Anyways your story is allready breaking up now.
Scilon: Ok.
Anon1: So I ask .. do you feel comfortable lying
Scilon: I don't lie
Anon1: What is it than, turning and twisting your points ..
Anon1: Contradicting .. it's like that isn't it.
Scilon: No look here with the camera .. you'll just cut out all the
pieces
Anon1: No .. not that
CamAnon: No this will be uploaded to youtube as-is
Scilon: Look we can turn it around too .. than we(EOF)
CamAnon: Hey hey !!!
Wow! That explains alot. Realizing that the unedited video would be up
on YouTube was what freaked him out! Thanks
He said his name was Hans Berger or Bergen or something and has a
scientologist for 15 years.
Didn't wanna tell what OT level he was on but he did get the
pronounciation of teegeack correct and fluent when an OT3 reading anon
was stumbeling and asked about the word.. all the while denying OT3
because you didn't get sick so it was teh wrong data. Cause if it were
the real thing you would get sick. Nice circle reasoning tech you got
there..
Perhaps anyone know more about him?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7aePgH0HI
> Last 28 seconds . . .
>
> Anon1: Anyways your story is allready breaking up now.
> Scilon: Ok.
> Anon1: So I ask .. do you feel comfortable lying
> Scilon: I don't lie
> Anon1: What is it than, turning and twisting your points ..
> Anon1: Contradicting .. it's like that isn't it.
> Scilon: No look here with the camera .. you'll just cut out all the
> pieces
> Anon1: No .. not that
> CamAnon: No this will be uploaded to youtube as-is
> Scilon: Look we can turn it around too .. than we(EOF)
> CamAnon: Hey hey !!!
I would be pleased to post a vid with sub if you can be more specific
about the times. In fact I'll take the time to post a SubStation
script to make it easier to translate.
It would be nice to have an image of the broken camera. A camera
serial number would be handy to help facilitate replacement, but isn't
required.
Danka.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkywGyVkby0
he says he's been sci for 15 years now.
Anon asks for more chalk.
About: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/
Anon was denieng the fishan stuff to be true OT stuff.
Anon: And you go and prosecute it with copyright?
Scientologist: Becasue it is. No .. It was said on the that it was
mister Hubbards.
Anon: That's slander or libel but not copyright.
Me: I have written on my site "I am an anus. - L Ron Hubbard"
Me: You are not going to sue me about it are you ?
Anon: Yes. he's not prossecuted yet.
Other anon: Yes
Also funny.. remember Jan the e-meter man ? http://digg.com/comedy/Desperation_3
Before cam Jan said "Fuck off!" to Anon giving flyer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goSmjVrAfUA
Anon: I'd like to know why you said that to me.
Jan: Just look at that .. I'm a scientologist for 15 years now .. and
it's all wrong..
Anon: No that's what you say.. (CULT CHECK THE FACTS (chalk on the
sidewalk)
Jan: You havn't inspected anything.
Anon: Ohno?? I think your ethics are out of order.
Jan: Ah .. now you are using scyentology words.
Anon: yep indeed
Jan: I think its funny
Anon: That's the problem with dogma's ey ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4C-VUxgKOc
Subtitles
I don't know the language but I generated a blank script with some
rough timing
http://rapidshare.com/files/109966280/sci-breaks-cam.ass.html
I used some odd phrases like -*-dude quest-*-. and -*-quack-*-. It
was for my reference to make sure the timing was ok.
Ideally, one could download aegisub or other substation alpha based
software and replace my "test-#" lines with the dialog... and note
where the timing needs to be fine tuned, there were three people
speaking.
Or, one can use mplayer or vlc, and load up the subtitle file and
replace the "test-#" with the correct dialog. aegisub is easier to
click on a line, hit play and hear what is said for transcription.
Once that is done my self or another person can take the script and
join it with the video, with something like mencode or VirtualDub.
the script I expect to only be about 10kbytes when done.
Anonymous wrote:
> Dutchfags did a surprise mini-raid outside the Amsterdam org
> yesterday. It went extremely well - we pretty much enturbulated the
> fuck out of them.
>
>
> 8 anon handed out flyers from 2pm - 10pm. The general public was
> extremely nice. After just a few minutes, a few high-up Scilons came
> out to bullbait us (including Jan, the Dutch org leader, and Julia
> Rijnvis, Dutch head of OSA). Shortly after that, they sent out a young
> part-timer to counter-flyer, who got quickly sent back inside by the
> police (we had a permit; they did not).
LULZ! LULZ!!
> The part-timer stayed outside
> to watch us and we eventually managed to strike up conversation.
> Mostly he avoided everything we asked - but after a while, he realized
> we might actually know a bit more about Scientology's secrets than
> what people'd been telling him, and we kept him talking for over an
> hour. He learned about the RPF, about Lisa, about R2-45, OT3,
> Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout, Shawn Lonsdale, Flo
> Barnett, L. Ron's diaries and "nigger" quotes, and the Sara Hubbard
> trial in all its gory detail. He quite suddenly became a lot nicer
> after that.
Nice work.
>
> We took a short break to chat with a journalist. At around half past
> seven anon returned to the org, to find plenty more Scilons willing to
> come out and play. Three of them (including an incredibly kind old
> lady) stayed outside to talk with us for two full hours. We didn't
> make quite the impact we'd had on the part-timer - but reciting the
> Sara Hubbard case worked every single time. They're going to need some
> serious repair auditing at the very least. Quite a few Scilons took
> (and read) our flyers, asked where they could find more information,
> and one even asked which words to search for on YouTube. Also, we
> intercepted some people who were just taking their first courses and
> convinced them to run away as fast as they could - they were
> completely shocked at everything CoS hadn't been telling them.
>
>
> We did have three separate incidents with Scilons losing their TR-0
> for a moment: one anon got his mask nearly pulled off, one got his arm
> twisted by an aggressive Scifag, and one got his camera broken when a
> Scilon tried to grab it. Luckily the Amsterdam org is literally right
> next to a police station, so overall we stayed pretty safe.
Just remember to report all incidents. All of these incidents are offences
in the UK. The clams make this sort of stuff up, we have to show and
document who is the aggressive party. You don't have to file charges
(although there's nothing wrong in that), but at least report it so you can
put the incidence numbers in your next application for a permit to demo
(maybe you'll get permanent police protection the way the OG had it in
London the last few years).
While the incidents you had might have been individual clams losing their
temper (we've seen that too), it could form part of a campaign against your
protesting if you let it slide or the police are allowed to get the
impression that the violence somehow started with the protesters. Anyway,
since the clams don't do rational thinking you should prepare for anything.
>
>
> So, in summary: we finally got to have a serious, open discussion with
> some high-up Scilons, we've learned that CoS Amsterdam is willing to
> get violent at times, and we've pissed off an OSA babe.
>
> Pictures and video:
>
http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/SuperZoaker/Miniraid%2022%20April/
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y4_md-u1HM
Super!
Best Regards
Jens
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Analogue filtering / 5GHz RLAN / Mandriva Linux / odds and ends
http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/ +44 1223 829 985
"His eyes fell on me like a stone-mason's chissel" Cowboy Junkies
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2890473062963156381&hl=en
A preview of the subtitles. These are the last 30 seconds.
Working on the whole thing and will upload the .ass file.
Very, very nice. Anonymous just keep on surprising me with their
dedication and skill. You guys really are l337...so to speak.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2890473062963156381&hl=en
> A preview of the subtitles. These are the last 30 seconds.
>
> Working on the whole thing and will upload the .ass file.
Good work, uploading the .ass file will permit some minor changes by
Engelse sprekers, such as
"Then what is it."
i.e. 4 is greater "than" 3 (vergelijkend)
i.e. You are leaving tonight then. (daarom/gevolg)
on a side note, the only dutch I know was a result of visiting Mexico
having an odd Dutch track next to the stereo, and waking up bitten by
mosquitoes, to 20 or so local workers up on scaffolding painting,
singing
"Muggen hier Muggen daar Muggen hier Overal"
His name is Hans Beekmans. OT-V. He was the dentist of the dutch
royal family until it was discovered, and published, that he was
a dedicated scientologist who promoted his scientology-madness to
that family.
Those who can read Dutch, go take a look here (includes pics):
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeta/scn/beekmans/
Jeta Eggers
Amsterdam
The Netherlands
Good for you, Jeta. For those who can't read Dutch, you can get a half-
ass Babelfish machine translation at www.altavista.com by pasting in
the URL. I don't know why Google doesn't include the module for your
important and widespread language.
This is as good as I could make it ;)
If anyone wants to fix and possibly translate to french, german,
spanish, swedish or chinese..
Thx in advance to all concerned.
I'm adding subtitles to google video version too.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5163028019177625343&hl=en
might take a while for them to work . . or atleast be there in full..
-= Google subtitle format =-
00:00:00.000
.. no I'm not going to.
00:00:02.500
And you accuse us of not doing it.(reading)
00:00:04.800
Could you repeat what you think of Karin.
The link is there. (in flyer's he got)
00:00:09.500
Read the article yourself. The link is there in the booklet.
00:00:14.500
Her promoting Ritalin was in the information
booklet sent out 2 weeks ago. (by the"church")
00:00:17.500
.. and the "suicide queen" too.
That has been rectified (by the newspaper) and all.
00:00:24.600
That one. (points)
According to the booklet that promotes Ritalin.
But please look for yourself.
00:00:33.500
And the "suicide queen" has been *cough* erm
Has be rectified and all.
00:00:39.500
Also in the newspaper that published it.
00:00:42.600
So it's funny to bring that in a discussion, while it has been
rectified.
And that without a lawsuit. Let alone 7 years . .
00:00:51.000
But first you say she's a "suicide queen".
Come on. I want that .. come on .. ahhh ?
00:00:59.000
This is what I came out here for.
Amongst other things.
To hear this from a Scientologist himself.
00:01:04.500
I'm really .. Come on .. You could say it just then.
Say it now.
00:01:09.250
You'll go all around the world.
00:01:12.000
Oh that's cool.
00:01:13.500
You'll be really famous.
00:01:14.800
YouTube?
00:01:15.500
Yes.
You'll be famous.
00:01:17.500
Sounds good?
00:01:18.440
Can we?
00:01:19.000
Well. I think you have really nice masks.
00:01:21.200
Yes, but what do you think about Karin.
00:01:23.450
We haven't got an answer.
00:01:24.600
I don't know Karin.
00:01:26.250
But you do know that she's the "suicide queen" of the Netherlands.
00:01:30.500
Europe.
00:01:31.250
That's what you just said.
00:01:32.250
You just said it was in a newspaper.
00:01:35.750
That has been rectified.
00:01:37.000
Oh look.
00:01:38.400
That's what you say.
00:01:40.500
No, that's what you say.
00:01:42.300
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
00:01:45.250
Yes.
00:01:46.250
So when it is being recorded you go and lie.
Is that what Scientology does?
00:01:50.000
So ethical.
00:01:50.500
The most ethical group of people on the planet.
00:01:52.900
Yes.
Yes .. yes.
00:01:54.000
When you are ethical you are honest, right?
00:01:56.000
Not while there is no camera, but lying as soon as there is.
00:02:02.500
*passers by something about drinking on camera*
00:02:03.800
No.
00:02:04.600
Ah come one. You can just repeat it again?
00:02:07.250
I'm standing here with 3 kids ..
I now understand why it's so hard to communicate with Scientologists.
00:02:12.250
.. with masks.
00:02:13.150
And they also have a camera.
00:02:15.250
Yes.. And all we want is you repeating what you just said.
00:02:18.750
Just then you said . .
00:02:19.450
You (not literal you) were here with a camera too last weekend.
00:02:24.000
It was written in a newspaper.
00:02:25.250
Yes.. But you said it without mentioning the newspaper.
00:02:28.750
I said it was in a newspaper.
00:02:31.150
Did he say that before?
00:02:31.850
Yes . .
00:02:32.250
No .. No .. The order was reversed.
00:02:35.120
First you said:
Aaaah .. Karin Spaink ..
That is the "suicide queen" of the Netherlands.
Later on you come up with .. and now you deny it.
00:02:44.250
The Daily News?
00:02:46.500
The Daily Telegraph.
Daily Star indeed. (wrong)
I think it's just as rely able as "our" Telegraaf.
00:02:51.750
No, the (dutch) Telegraaf is better.
This is the sewer of British news.
00:02:56.100
British newspapers suck anyway.
All those free things. 50% pure gossip about celebrities.
00:03:03.550
. . but . .
00:03:04.050
But back to Karin Spaink.
They went true her garbage and had a stakeout at her house.
00:03:17.750
They have all the nasty . .
00:03:19.100
The "church" would not have done that.
00:03:20.850
. . all the nasty . .
00:03:22.000
It's probably reporters doing that kind of stuff.
00:03:31.250
Fortunately we have a woman, who left Scientology.
She told us, not about Karin, but Jeta Eggers
. . she was ordered by OSA to . .
00:03:42.250
She had a stakeout at Jeta Eggers (house) . .
00:03:44.000
. . and writing down when he left, when he came back what he had with
him.
As instructed by OSA.
00:03:51.500
Yes.
I don't know anything about that.
00:03:53.100
No?
00:03:53.800
Yeah well. So you say.
You people say so many things that are just not right.
So this will probably be wrong too.
00:04:01.350
You (sci) also say so many things that are wrong.
00:04:03.150
Even worse, you don't say your names.
Who you are. What kind of jobs you have.
00:04:07.450
We do tell where you} are going. youtube.
We are honest.
00:04:10.350
I told you what kind of job I have, right?
I also told you what profession I have.
00:04:14.000
No. They say nothing and he says he works in computers.
Anyone can claim that.
00:04:19.450
C++ programmer.
00:04:21.150
But Anyways.
A statistics firm in the Netherlands . . any more questions?
The DvD "Anonymous Hate crimes".
00:04:27.350
Was handed out by Scientology in America.
It had a video about a bomb thread by Anonymous.
In HD quality while it was supposed to have come from youtube.
00:04:39.500
Youtube, I don't know if you know this, is low quality. . Right?
00:04:43.350
I think so .. I don't know.
00:04:44.900
Exactly.
00:04:45.600
You can't get high quality there.
But they had it in high quality.
What does that imply . .
0,0:04:52.450
No clue.
00:04:53.100
That they are the source.
00:04:54.350
***motorcycle***
00:04:56.150
Youtube had the source.
00:04:57.500
No. Youtube provides low quality only.
On the DvD there was the high quality version of the youtube video.
It seems logical that the DvD is the source of what was uploaded to
youtube. Right?
00:05:09.750
That could well be.
00:05:10.850
And that was a Scientology DvD.
We had allegedly placed bomb threads.
But in a weird twist they had the HD quality sources.
00:05:22.250
A bit weird. Agreed?
That's pretty suspicious.
00:05:26.150
I don't know what you are on about. So . .
00:05:28.800
Ok . . Once more . .
There was a bomb thread posted on youtube.
00:05:32.250
A bomb thread . .
00:05:33.250
Against Scientology .. Allegedly by Anonymous.
00:05:36.250
Okay.
00:05:36.750
On a DvD that was handed out by Scientology "chuch" in Amsterdam.
About the "crimes" of Anonymous.
00:05:45.000
I have never seen a DvD that was handed out.
00:05:50.000
No you are right, sorry was only handed out in America.
00:05:53.450
Anyway. In America they handed it out.
00:05:56.150
Yes.
00:05:56.750
It had a better quality than the same video on youtube.
So they can't have gotten it there.
00:06:01.750
-*-SHRUG-*-
00:06:03.500
Ok .. Well you are telling me something I know nothing about . .
so . .
00:06:06.500
Then we go to something he does know about . . ehm.
In the "news letter" which you mentioned a bit back and have read.
00:06:14.000
We are being payed by pharmaceutical companies.
In Australia 50 dollars have been payed to a number of people
whom . .
00:06:22.250
. . whatever they had to do for that research-firm.
00:06:25.250
But where are the sources.
I don't know.
00:06:28.250
-*-SCREECH-*-
00:06:29.000
-*- TOM CRUISE -*-
(Public Transport (tram) PA)
00:06:30.540
WOOHOOO !!
00:06:31.500
Did you get that ? ?
00:06:32.540
Tom cruise.
Greetings to Tom Cruise?
00:06:33.900
Hahahahaha.
00:06:34.900
Nice !!
00:06:36.020
Travolta seems to be almost out.
00:06:38.940
What?
00:06:39.500
Apparently he's already blown.
00:06:40.700
Cool !!
00:06:41.820
Whom?
00:06:42.420
John Travolta.
00:06:43.780
He doesn't dare to speak out yet.
00:06:45.860
And Kattie Holmes wants out . .
00:06:48.500
He (Travolta) is afraid of his confessions about being gay.
00:06:51.180
Ahhhhhhh.
00:06:54.140
Homosexuality can be "fixed" right?
00:06:57.380
I don't know what that is about.
00:06:59.020
Homosexuality is according to Julia Rijnvis "fixable".
Yes. (Head OSA was in newspapers years ago)
00:07:04.020
Scientologists don't know what it is all about . .
Yet you claim we don't know about it.
00:07:07.980
Yes, but you . . You make things up and say things . .
00:07:12.980
Some things. Like just now . .
. . You lied about Karin Spaink being a "suicide queen".
00:07:21.020
No .. No .. You (Anons) suggest things.
00:07:27.380
You have a tendency of putting words in peoples mouths.
00:07:29.580
Wait a minute . . he just said that about Karin Spaink.
00:07:31.300
I've heard it !
You know, you remind me of Kooten and De Bie.
They'd say: "One professor says to the other professor.".
00:07:40.020
That's sort of what you do.
00:07:41.100
He said that I lied.
And I said that he lied.
00:07:43.740
You said just then:
"Karin Spaink, HAH, that is the suicide guru of europe."
00:07:47.700
You didn't listen correctly.
00:07:49.500
What did you say?
00:07:50.860
I said that in the Daily Telegraph .. or what newspaper . .
00:07:54.000
. . was written . .
00:07:54.700
. . that Mrs. Spaink . .
00:07:56.340
. . ey?
00:07:57.460
That is not true. The Daily Telegraph, I just brought that up.
You didn't bring that up before that and he says another . . he says
the Daily Star.
00:08:06.25
In the "Newsletter" it was the Daily Telegraph.
Anyways your story is now starting to fall apart.
00:08:11.50
Okay.
00:08:12.220
So I ask: Do you feel comfortable lying?
00:08:16.260
I don't lie.
00:08:17.420
What is it you do than.
What is the thing, turning and twisting your points . .
00:08:21.380
. . contradicting yourself.
00:08:22.980
That's it isn't it?
No. Look here with the camera .. You'll just cut out all the pieces.
00:08:27.100
No . . We won't.
00:08:28.340
And pasted together.
No this will be uploaded to youtube in one piece.
00:08:32.170
Look we can turn it around too .. then we go [EOF]
Hey hey hey ! ! !
-= EOF =-
threads = threats
true = through (or thru)
Easy to fix with search/replace.
On Apr 24, 4:12 pm, Anonymous <scientologyru...@live.com> wrote:
> http://rapidshare.com/files/110049538/sci-breaks-cam.ass.html
>
> This is as good as I could make it ;)
> If anyone wants to fix and possibly translate to french, german,
> spanish, swedish or chinese..
>
> Thx in advance to all concerned.
>
> I'm adding subtitles to google video version too.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5163028019177625343&hl=en
The very fact that I understood that is disturbing...
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
It's Poodlin' Time!
“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”
--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC
Thanks fixed in google video :)
If anyone does a translation please post it here and I'll add it to
the video.
I understand... Tom Cruise in Dutch is "Dude Quest"
Funny, I thought it would be Dude Trek
LOL
Translated the other vids of 22 april too
moar Hans Beekmans
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3762669118261164292&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8590512965394922617&hl=en
sum Jan (e-meter man) Schouten
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6026341534040511054&hl=en
> sum Jan (e-meter man) Schoutenhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6026341534040511054&hl=en
Possible edits:
00:00:12 Kid, you haven't done any inspecting realy . . so . . ehm.
Spelling realy = really
Word use = inspecting = investigating
[Don't ask me why, but one would inspect machines or troops, one
investigates events, facts, ideas. I know what you mean
-spec = look at
invest = put time, money, or energy into something]
00:00:20 So now you are using Scientology terminology.
syntax= Scientology terminology = a Scientology term.
[the sentence is actually perfect, and it might be your translation
is more accurate, it just sounds like Jan is commenting on use of "a
Scientology term", rather than use of terminology]
I'm not sure if dogmas should be singular... the dictionary I'm using
suggests you can say "Dogmas of the past", so I think it might follow
the same rule of "fish" (one fish two fish / two fishes).
Alles over de man, die behalve Psychopaat ook Racist, Anti-Semiet,
en Seksist is. Alsof dat niet genoeg is, is hij ook (allemaal
aantoonbaar) een Spammer van jawelste, Alcoholist, dagelijks
drugsgebruiker, Plaatjesdief, Bedrieger en notoire Leugenaar.
Hij post meestal “Anonymous”, maar we weten allemaal dat het
Jeta Eggers is, alias de “Zuipende Wietkabouter”!!!
Je kunt het allemaal lezen en zien op:
Gerrit
Zo .. vernieuwde editie . . wat leuk.
> Gerrit
Gerrit Wammes
van de Zandtstraat 12
6882 AZ Velp GLD
http://www.b-org.demon.nl/para-paria/gerrit-wammes/profiel.html
Altijd leuk . . .
> Je kunt het allemaal lezen en zien op:
Het bovenstaande bericht werd, onder een zoveelste schuilnaam,
gepost door 'medium' Gerrit Wammes uit Velp/Arnhem.
IP-adressen: 86.90.111.77 en 77.161.113.135.
De heer Wammes is, volgens publicaties van _hemzelf_ :
- commercieel alternatief genezer,
- paranormaal politie-assistent,
- chronisch psychiatrisch patient,
- zwarte magier,
- alcoholist,
- psycho-medicijn verslaafde,
maar boven alles...
- medium: de man 'channelt' een geest die "ver boven God staat"
(zie z'n 'boek' Het Geheim der Goden :
http://www.gerrit-wammes.nl/Het%20Geheim%20der%20Goden.htm
Alles over dit 'medium' en de redenen van zijn vuilschrijverij
-zoals de posting waarop ik hier reageer-- is hier te lezen :
http://www.b-org.demon.nl/para-paria/gerrit-wammes/profiel.html
Jeta
Psycho-Jeta Eggers, alias de "Zuipende Wietkabouter":
Ziehier enkele foto's: http://www.jeta-eggers.info/pageID_5577935.html
en bezoek ook:
http://www.freewebs.com/demislukte-clown/
Gerrit