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Aug 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/18/97
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Posting-frequency: monthly
Archive-name: nl-alt/en/config-faq

NL-ALT CONFIG FAQ (or: how do I add nl-alt to my newsserver?)
=============================================================

This documented is intended to act as a guideline for newsadmins
who want to add the nl-alt.* hierarchy to their newsservers. It
describes the procedure for INN; users of other software should
however be able to figure things out from this document too.

0. Announcement
- ---------------

On 1 or 2 september newgroup control messages will be sent for
the proposed administrative groups in the nl-alt hierarchy by
<nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl>.

1. Who maintains the nl-alt hierarchy?
- --------------------------------------

No-one does. As the alt hierarchy, everyone is free to newgroup,
as long as they follow the guidelines. These guidelines are being
posted regularly to nl-alt.config.admin. They consist of some minimum
requirements for group creation, which includes discussion in
nl-alt.config.newsgroups. There are also guidelines for group removal,
and lots of other technical issues.

2. How do I configure my newssite for the nl-alt hierarchy?
- -----------------------------------------------------------

When using INN, add the folowing lines to control.ctl:

### start nl-alt config 1 ###

newgroup:*:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail

# Onno Hovers (on...@surfer.xs4all.nl)
rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup

# Thijs Kinkhorst (th...@kink.xs4all.nl)
rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup

### end nl-alt config 1 ###

This means that all newgroup messages will automatically be
hounored, and that rmgroup messages will be mailed to you for
approval unless they originate from a trusted source.

Users of other newssoftware should be able to configure that
software in a way like this.

If you do not trust newgroups from anyone, you could use these
trusted sources as well. Booster newgroups will be sent out
for newly created groups from these trusted sources. Just add:

### start nl-alt config 2 ###

newgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
newgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup

### end nl-alt config 2 ###

3. PGP?
- -------
If you prefer to use PGP verify, the control messages from
nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl will be signed:

Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID
pub 1024/91899A69 1997/08/05 NL-ALT janitor <nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl>

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For Onno Hovers's personal PGP key please finger on...@xs4all.nl or
on...@stack.nl or query the keyserver.
For Thijs Kinkhorst's personal PGP key please query the keyserver.

4. Where can I get more information?
- ------------------------------------

Some other (Dutch-language) FAQs about the nl-alt hierarchy can be
found in nl-alt.informatie and nl-alt.config.admin. On a special page
there's a collection of documents that relate to the nl-alt hierarchy,
along with some extra information. Take a look at:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~onno/nl-alt/

5. Finally
- -----------
This document has been written by Thijs Kinkhorst. Corrections have been
made by Onno Hovers. Please mail all comments to th...@kink.xs4all.nl.
and on...@stack.nl Last update: 08/17/97

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Student physics at the University of Technology Eindhoven
No, I do not want ANY unsollicited bulk e-mail


J$

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Aug 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/19/97
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Onno Hovers <on...@surfer.xs4all.nl>:

[...]

> rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
[..]
> rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup
[..]
> rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup

> [..] rmgroup messages will be mailed to you for approval unless they


> originate from a trusted source.

[...]

> If you prefer to use PGP verify, the control messages from
> nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl will be signed:

Ik houd mijn kaken stijf op elkaar. Meermaals.


-- J$
ps;
maar een *grinnik* glipt daar toch wel doorheen, onstopbaar
--
dash dash space
this is my .sig it's not so .big

Thijs Kinkhorst

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Aug 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/22/97
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j...@xs4all.nl (J$) wrote:

Zie <33fd2460...@news.tip.nl>.
Ik had deze FAQ geschreven, eerst voor gebruik zonder PGPverify.
Daarna met. De laatste versie is kennelijk niet tot Onno
doorgedrongen; hij heeft het nodig gevonden zelf de FAQ (verkeerd) te
bewerken. Zodra ik op mijn "homelocation" arriveer, zal ik de correcte
versie posten.

Tot die tijd wil ik iedereen verzoeken deze FAQ te negeren en ook de
PGP key niet te gebruiken.

Thijs Kinkhorst (not@home)

Thijs Kinkhorst

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Aug 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/23/97
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***DO NOT USE THIS FAQ***
Due to a communication problem, this FAQ is totally wrong. Do not use
the configuration mentioned in this document or use the enclosed PGP
key. I've posted this message sooner, but it doesn't seem to have
propagated any further than cadmium.aware.nl. A correct version has
been posted to this newsgroup by now.


In article <5t80un$2...@surfer.xs4all.nl>, Onno Hovers
<on...@surfer.xs4all.nl> writes:

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>NL-ALT CONFIG FAQ (or: how do I add nl-alt to my newsserver?)
>=============================================================

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Thijs Kinkhorst

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Aug 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/23/97
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In article <5t80un$2...@surfer.xs4all.nl>, Onno Hovers
<on...@surfer.xs4all.nl> writes:

[snip]

>This document has been written by Thijs Kinkhorst. Corrections have been
>made by Onno Hovers.

Not quite "corrections"... :-)

Thijs Kinkhorst and Onno Hovers

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Aug 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/23/97
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The old NL-ALT CONFIG FAQ posted on the 18. of August has some errors due
to communication problems (a mysterously disappearing email problem).
The new FAQ had been posted by Thijs Kinkhorst to nl.actueel.alt-config
but unfortunately not yet to news.admin.hierarchies.

If you discover any mistakes in this FAQ (even spelling!), please mail
them to th...@kink.xs4all.nl. Thanks in advance.

NL-ALT CONFIG FAQ (or: how do I add nl-alt to my newsserver?)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This documented is intended to act as a guideline for newsadmins
who want to add the nl-alt.* hierarchy to their newsservers. It
describes the procedure for INN; users of other software should
however be able to figure things out from this document too.

1. Who maintains the nl-alt hierarchy?

======================================

No-one does. As the alt hierarchy, everyone is free to newgroup,
as long as they follow the guidelines. These guidelines are being
posted regularly to nl-alt.config.admin. They consist of some minimum
requirements for group creation, which includes discussion in
nl-alt.config.newsgroups. There are also guidelines for group removal,
and lots of other technical issues.

2. How do I configure my newssite for the nl-alt hierarchy?

===========================================================

This section descibes four different ways to configure your site. They
are described in detail below. Each contains some code to be added to
INN's control.ctl file.


Configuration 1: standard, with PGP
- - -----------------------------------

This configuration is the advised one to use. Everyone is free to
newgroup, and rmgroups will be mailed to you for approval, unless they
originate from a trusted source. In the latter case, they will be
pgpverified.

### start nl-alt config 1 ###

newgroup:*:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail

# Onno Hovers (on...@surfer.xs4all.nl)
rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:verify-nl-alt.config.
admin

# Thijs Kinkhorst (th...@kink.xs4all.nl)
rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:verify-nl-alt.config.admin

### end nl-alt config 1 ###


Configuration 2: standard, without PGP
- - --------------------------------------

The same as above, but for sites that don't have pgpverify
installed.

### start nl-alt config 2 ###

newgroup:*:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail

rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=rmgroup

### end nl-alt config 2 ###


Configuration 3: higher security
- - --------------------------------

This configuration mails all control messages to you for
approval, unless they come from a trusted source. New-
and rmgroups from trusted sources will be executed.
This configuration doesn't use PGP.

### start nl-alt config 3 ###

newgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
newgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup

newgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:doit=newgroup

### end nl-alt config 3 ###


Configuration 4: maximum security
- - ---------------------------------

The same configuration as #3, but this time PGP is used to
verify the trusted source.

### start nl-alt config 4 ###

newgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
newgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:verify-nl-alt.config
..admin
newgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:verify-nl-alt.config.admin
rmgroup:*:nl-alt.*:mail
rmgroup:nl-alt-...@surfer.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:verify-nl-alt.config.
admin rmgroup:ne...@kink.xs4all.nl:nl-alt.*:verify-nl-alt.config.admin

### end nl-alt config 4 ###


Of course you can create your own configuration from the ones
above.


3. PGP?
=======

Two of the above configurations use pgpverify, a program to
verify control messages using, surprisingly, PGP. We advise
every newsadmin to use pgpverify. More information can be
found at the following URL:

ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README

This is the key that is used to sign control messages. It can
also be found at the keyservers. The fingerprint is
6B 62 EB 53 4D 5D 2F 96 35 D9 C8 9C B0 65 0E 4C

Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID

pub 1024/3EC221D1 1997/08/14 nl-alt.config.admin

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4. Where can I get more information?

====================================

Some other (mostly Dutch-language) FAQs about the nl-alt hierarchy can


be found in nl-alt.informatie and nl-alt.config.admin. On a special

page a collection of documents can be found that relate to the nl-alt


hierarchy, along with some extra information. Take a look at:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~onno/nl-alt/

This document has been written by Thijs Kinkhorst. Please mail all
comments to th...@kink.xs4all.nl. Last update: 08/14/97

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