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Aug 3, 2024, 12:54:16 PM8/3/24

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I tried the "create new swatch, delete old swatch" trick to no avail...got an error message telling me that that name was already in use. The placed graphic idea sounded reasonable, and in fact I was headed in that direction, but alas, after replacing all updated Illustrator files with corrected color info, I still come up donuts.This is a most inefficient problem...being able to globally replace swatches should be a no-brainer. Does anyone know what's going on?

1. Create a new document.2. In that document, create a process color but give it the same name as your spot color that you want to remove from the reluctant document.3. Make a book consisting only of the two documents.4. Use synchronization, choosing swatches only. Make sure both (or all) pages are selected.5. Synchronize (if you don't have all pages selected - how it defaults, you can't synchronize).6. Now you should be able to delete the color in the previously reluctant document.The NEW document must be the source when you synchronize the colors. Otherwise, you end up replacing the colors in the new document with the 'bad' ones in the old.THIS REALLY WORKS. It doesn't take that long either.

This is the only way to delete a swatch linked to an Ill eps, then copied to another document without the eps.What I mean is:
1. New doc.
2. Place Ill eps with spot color, say Pantone Warm Grey 11 C (this was the swatch I had problems with).
3. Create an object of any kind, say a rectangle.
4. Rectangle fill color: Pantone WG 11 C.
5. Select rectange. Copy it.
6. Create another new document.
7. Paste rectangle in new document.
8. Swatch Pantone WG 11 C is greyed out, cannot be deleted, replaced or changed.Thanks again for this excellent solution!
/henning

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The organisation has decided on a minor change to one of their corporate colours, so I edited that colour in my swatch and updated the CMYK values. None of the styles that use that colour have been updated. I had a back up copy of the document so tried creating the new colour first and then deleting the old colour, expecting that I would be asked which colour I want to replace it with, but nothing.

Do I really have to go through every style and update the colour individually? Surely if you use a colour in that swatch and then edit the colour, everything using that colour should change. What am I missing?

In order for objects to react to a change in a color, the color must be global, and that requires that the color be in a document palette. If you're using global colors, and you change one, then objects that use that color will also change. If you have not used global colors, then yes, you will have to update each individually.

You mention "going through every style". Global colors would be used with objects. I don't think they can be used with Styles, because a Style is an application-level function, and global colors are document-specific because of their requirement for a document palette.

Thanks for your response. So a 'global' colour isn't global at all and is only specific to the document you are working on. Obviously it is a lack of training on my part (I've been using Designer for all of a week but in a bit of a rush to recreate a job to avoid having to continue using other software), but I created an application palette for this client since I will be working on various jobs for them and thought the correct colours would be available for every job. I'm not sure I see the point of an application palette if you can't make changes to a colour within it and have that colour update everywhere it is used.

I think you would need to create a document palette, export it, and import it into other documents as a document palette. That should get you the colors as global in both documents. But if it changes you'll still need to make the change in two documents.

You could also create a template, put a document palette in it, and start each new project using that template. You'll still need to change each document of the palette changes, but this avoids having to export and import the palette.

I have a bunch of ASE files that I would like to be able to share in collaborative CC Libraries. The swatches all have custom names. I am trying to use Illustrator to add them to the Library, and I can only figure out how to add each swatch one by one. To make matters worse, the hex code is used as the default name when that color loads into the library, so I have to rename each one. Is there a way to move the whole swatch palette to the library and preserve the naming system and folders?

From the Swatches panel, use the flyout menu to select Open Swatch Library > Other Library... and navigate to your .ase file. Create a new library. Select the color group you opened in the Swatches panel and click the 3rd icon from the left, Add selected Color Groups and Swatches to my current library. Your ASE will appear in the CC Library as a Color Theme with whatever name was associated with that color group.

Thank you! This worked, however when I re-import the swatched from that library there are a bunch of random duplicates of the same swatch and the names are not retained. The work around for this is to make sure all the swatches are global (for anyone with this same issues in the future).

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