Microsoft's OneNote is terrible compared to Evernote with one glaring difference, their pen support is amazing! The rest is terrible. Evernote is a mirror of this, everything brilliant except the pen support.
Seems like Evernote are leaving themselves wide open to Microsoft, yet again, coming a long with a generally poor product that has one killer feature which starts to convert people whilst they play catch-up on the other features.
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Thanks for the information. So do I take it from this that there is no Windows solution for Surface users? Specifically it's not useful to create hand writing in Evernote you cannot edit like you can in OneNote. I'd be interested to know why there's no plans to offer this feature given it's available on the iPad from Evernote themselves...ie Penultimate.
just repeating the comments made already: meanwhile with MS surface products and other windows powered convertibles there are many beautiful pen devices on the market. And we do not even have the rudimentary handwriting functionality like in the android version. a pitty!! but careful the android version I do not use as the handwriting cannot be edited anymore.
I am a long time tablet PC user. I have owned a Toshiba (great resolution), Dell XT (great support, they basically upgraded me to an XT2) and a Lenovo Helix (which simply sucks). I love being able to take notes directly in a pdf, if only because it allows me to comment on student work and keep a copy of my comments for reference. OneNote is great for making handwriting notes during meetings, to sketch ideas, or to do mathematics. But I've never been a great fan of Microsoft products (OneNote is really a surprising exception), so I always said that if Apple would introduce a tablet, I would switch. They did, so here I am...
The pencil is longer and heavier than the typical Windows tablet pen. I like the grip and feel, but then again my hands are quite big. What I do not like is the small adapter you need to charge the pencil using a charger. You can stick the pencil directly into the lightning port of the iPad to charge. Actually, this is how you pair the pencil with your iPad. But that looks quite flaky: I can easily see the connector of the pencil break because of some unfortunate move.
The iPad Pro is huge. This makes it much less convenient for reading books, for example. The large screen is nice to read newspapers 'as is' though. And a large screen is simply necessary to make notes or annotate pdfs.
For note taking I use OneNote for the iPad. It is free, even on the Ipad Pro (unlike the other Microsoft Office apps, that are only free on the smaller iPads). With the latest update Microsoft fixed some issues, which makes the writing experience just as smooth as on a Windows tablet. Depending on the digitiser on your Windows tablet (the Lenovo Helix one was extremely bad), the iPad is way more precise, especially along the edges. I like Onenote's simple interface on the iPad.
OneNote on the iPad doesn't recognise your handwriting. However, I sync my notes (through OneDrive) with OneNote on my Windows tablet. And I discovered that once a note is synced to the tablet the handwriting does get recognised, and that that information is synced back to the iPad! This means the recognised text corresponding to any handwritten title of a note is used in the page list. Moreover you now can search your handwritten notes on the iPad! OneNote's handwriting recognition is very good - this is one of the reasons I use OneNote for all my note taking.
There is even a way to make sure that the correct language is used when trying to recognise your handwriting. Simply switch to Text Mode, select the page so that the keyboard appears, and select the keyboard for the language you intend to write in. You can even change language while writing on a singe page. Of course, the corresponding languages need to be installed on the tablet as well. I do wonder whether this also works when syncing notes with a version of OneNote running on an ordinary PC or a Mac. My feature request: handwriting recognition on the iPad itself, so you do not need to sync at all. Oh, and also music score sheets as separate paper style would be great!
PDF Expert has a lot of features that really make it a very useful pdf annotation tool. Also the user interface is quite intuitive. You can make handwritten notes in any pdf with the Apple Pencil using PDF Expert. And they look quite reasonable. But PDF Expert does not support the pressure sensitivity offered by the pencil, which make the handwriting look a bit clunky. (Remember to switch off wrist protection in the settings; otherwise you can't write with the pencil.) My feature request: native support for the Apple Pencil.
Notability does support the Apple Pencil natively, and as a result handwritten notes look very nice. However the feature set is not as extensive as PDF Expert. I guess this is partly due to the fact that Notability is not really a native pdf app: it uses its own native file format for storing notes and converts pdfs to and from this format. It does have the nice feature to record audio and make notes synced to the particular point in the audio recording; something OneNote on the tablet also supports. What I find quite frustrating is that Notability supports import and export to several cloud providers (like Dropbox and Google Drive) except iCloud. Feature request: also support import and export to iCloud.
Of course the million dollar question is: is it better than a Windows tablet? The answer depends on the tablet. If the tablet has a good digitiser (like the latest Surfaces), in terms of pure writing experience it is a draw as far as I am concerned. I am not a graphic artist making drawings; perhaps for those use cases the Apple Pencil offers a better user experience.
I never had a big issues with OneNote, except for occasionalsync/signin glitches. But in the end I hated the fact that OneNote forMacOS is just like the app, i.e. no local storage and all the otherfeatures of the full OneNote application on Windows, especiallyhandwriting recognition. This is all done in the Microsoft cloud;i.e. not done locally on either the iPad or the Mac.
It would be great to be able to use the Apple Pencil, and its handwriting conversion tool Scribble, in Dynalist. Would really be a boost to brainstorming on the iPad.
Is there any chance of this feature being added in the near future?
Thank you.
One thing I like to do sometimes is paste my dynalist list into onenote and then free-form edit it with the pencil, crossing things out, arrows, notes, etc, to finish editing it there. Then I can screenshot it to bring it back into dynalist as an image. Or hyperlink to the page.
I second this.
[Obsidian + Sketch Notes] is a tool I want.
As I am mostly thinking in picture and drawing helps me think.
So the perfect tool in my mind would be Obsidian with drawing capability.
The programs that support handwriting usually have OCR. Keyboards on many devices have the ability to transcribe into text. This already exists and is constantly developed within these other programs.
Have you tried changing that setting? There is also some Windows Ink settings in the Windows control panel specifically that you can disable. When you click down or right-click, if you see little blue circles, it is likely Windows Ink features that are disrupting your workflow in One Note. Redirecting
This has been working really well for me. I realize that one could also probably do it by hand: just create an empty pdf in the obsidian vault, have a shortcut to it on the ipad, and the write on it (via the default Apple editing tool) whenever.
This app is most well-known for its audio syncing feature, which allows you to record audio and sync it with handwritten notes while you write, but other apps like Goodnotes have caught on and added this feature, too. However, Notability also recently introduced audio transcripts, which include time-stamped text of your recordings.
To set itself apart, Notability also boasts some unique features. Multi-note support gives users the ability to open two notes and arrange them in the app for comparison or multitasking. The new Pencil tool provides the app with added versatility, allowing users to draw and sketch.
By combining multitasking tools and technologies like handwriting recognition and math conversion, Notability makes it easier than ever to take notes during classes, meetings, conferences, and everything in between.
One of the biggest differentiators between Goodnotes and other competitors is its abundance of organizational tools. By default, Goodnotes allows you to create Notebooks and store everything within them. This is a fundamental difference from a tool like Notability or Apple Notes, where your ability to organize is somewhat constrained by the software.
Believe it or not, Apple Notes has been around since the early days of digital notetaking. The app launched with the first version of iOS, way back in 2007. Originally, it was a mobile version of the Notes app that has been (and continues to be) a staple on the Mac operating system.
You can open a Quick Note on your iPhone or iPad without even opening the Notes app. This allows you to quickly jot down a thought, save content from the web or another app, and more.
It works like this: When you open a file in LiquidText, the document is imported into a digital workspace. In the workspace, your document takes up half of the screen, and the workspace takes the other half.
#alt#A screenshot picturing the LiquidText interface, including a written article on the left, along with a window allowing for the selection of multiple documents. A mind map of notes and excerpts is located on the right side of the screen.
However, where LiquidText focuses on taking handwritten notes and marking up the document (all of which is possible in MarginNote), this software also allows for clipping notes, creating flashcards or mindmaps, and building study outlines.
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