Bell Download Speed Test
Gertrudis Paronto
Hi Everyone,
I recently upgraded from 500Mbps to 1Gbps (down). Since the upgrade I randomly do speedtests and I keep getting more or less the same results (Network to modem of 1Gbps and Modem to device of roughly half of that).
I'm currently running on a 5e ethernet cable that connects my PC to the modem itself. From what I know (I'm no network expert btw), I should be able to more or less fully utilize 1Gbps (say 900-1000Mbps) through this setup. To be transparent, there are other devices (phones and tablets) that use the same network over Wifi. I time my speedtests to ensure there are no heavy use outside of my PC when running the test (so resutls aren't materially affected).
Any thoughts/ suggestions on how I can fix this?
FIXED!
After more testing, I was finally able to isolate the issue. I tried rolling back LAN drivers, testing a CAT6 cable from my PC to the modem, changing the slot where the ethernet was connected (in the modem), etc.
In the end, it was never the hardware - the culprit was AVG (mind you, I don't use their VPN service). I don't know which of their 'products' was driving it but whenever I turn off the whole AVG product suite - the modem to client speed runs almost exactly as modem to network (ISP).
With this, I retire my 'conspiracy theory'. You are right @ZaneP , we can get the full quoted service on one device. Cheers to you bud! Thanks for all the help! Appreciate it 100pct!
Hi ZaneP,
First, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You got the items right on the big picture.
I was thinking along the same lines as well when I started to do my troubleshooting. To isolate these variables, I did a bit of reseach on my equipment. My ethernet card is in fact capable of 1000Mbps, and the cable that's running between my desktop pc and the model HH3000 is CAT5e. Based on what I found, these are in fact capable of doing 1Gbps (940Mbps). This makes me kinda confident that my equipment should be able to do roughly 1Gbps.
Before I posted in this forum, all of my tests (that show device to modem speeds of roughly half of what I'm paying for) was done on Bell speedtest. When I did a speedtest on Ookla last night, I was getting a 650-750Mbps range. While Bell speed test was still showing 500Mbps or lower on device to modem.
Additional info: Before I got my 1Gbps plan (1gbps down and 750mbps up), I tried the 1.5G down and 940 up. While I was on the 1.5Gbps plan, I saw my PC utilize 940Mbps up and down - which made sense cause it caps out the equipments capacity. Then I thought to myself, why should I pay for 1.5Gbps down when my main PC won't even be able to use more than 940Mbps. So I downgraded.
Here comes my own 'conspiracy theory' So when I was at 1.5Gbps plan, obviously I can not validate if a single ethernet connection can in fact download more than 1Gbps - cause equipment can't. BUT I was in fact getting at least 940Mbps then (on Ookla speedtest). After downgrading to 1Gbps, I never got to experience that again (Ookla and Bell speedtest). Highest I've ever gotten on Ookla was close to 750Mbps (I won't even write down the Bell results on device to modem). Another thing that caught my attention is the fine print in Bell's packages.
"Download speed up to 1 Gbps:Assuming optimal network conditions. A wired connection and at least one additional wired or wireless connections are required to obtain total speeds of up to 1 Gbps with Gigabit Fibe."
So my theory is this - I've practically tried all plans from Fibe 500 to Gigabit Fibe 1.5. One thing I found consistent is that a single ethernet device max download always aligns with the published max upload.
Fibe 500 will give a single ethernet connection max 500down and up
Gigabit Fibe will give a single ethernet connection max 750 up and down (any diff between 750 and 1000 are 'spread' on other devices)
Gigabit Fibe 1.5 will give a single ethernet connection max 940 up and down (any diff between 940 and 1500 are also spread on other devices)
Again, I'm no network expert by any means and these theories are only driven by my own testing. If it doesn't make sense - I'll just chalk it up to not really understanding the fundamentals of networking.
- I have the HH4000, and from its dashboard I run the speed test, to see what's being delivered. I assume the HK3000 has a similar utility on its dashboard? The other test I run is from any ethernet device I'm running on the LAN side. I use Bell's speed test as it's the most reliable. This one: support.bell.ca/Internet/Internet-Speed-Test. Ookla is fine.
Don't get too attached to your "conspiracy theory". Bell's service commitment ends at what's being delivered to the modem. Yes, optimal conditions are rare. But, I have a 2.5Gb ethernet-to-usb adapter used on a MacBook Air; when I plug it into the 10Gb port on the HH4000 and run a speed test I hit the maximum download and upload rate being provided by Bell for my rate plan. Meanwhile, other wired and wireless devices are running on the LAN without issues.
I understand that Bell's service commitment ends at the modem. It makes sense that they do that. It'll be too much of a headache for them to be investigating every person who complains on their device speed. That's also why those who don't get it, turn to forums to solve it. I did try asking Bell support if they have tips - but as you've mentioned, their commitment ends at the modem.
I agree with your last point. Real world use, its definitely working well. I love how Bell (at least in my location) barely gets service interruptions. Functionality wise - all our use-cases are covered. I guess there's just a part of me that's 'pennying up' on what I pay for. Plus there's this curiosity that - If the issue is my connection to the modem, why is it that my upload (modem to device) consistently close to the network to modem but the download side is half. Plus given that I've seen my PC get that 900+ Mbps (Ookla based test) when I was at 1.5Gbps plan, why don't I see it now while I'm at 1Gbps plan.
Currently, when connected directly to the HH3000, the local Bell router speed test shows 550mb speeds but my Speedtest.org clocks in at 250mb. When connected to the MX65, I get the same Speedtest.org speeds of 250mb (which makes me think it's Speedtest.org). If I disconnect the HH3000's PPPoE connection, it doesn't affects speeds at all.
I plan on taking the SFP out of the HH3000 modem and inserting it into that device to bypass the Bell device completely. I'll see if that increases speeds. That device should arrive today, so I'll update this thread.
I'll return the media converter and call Bell to lower my Internet speeds to match the MX65 limit. If I find myself an MX67 or MX68, I'll increase my speeds back up. You just saved me a few $/month on my Internet bill
HOLLOMAN AIR FORCE BASE, N.M. (13 September, 2023) Bell Textron Inc., a Textron Inc. (NYSE: TXT) company, today announced the delivery of a High-Speed Vertical Takeoff and Landing (HSVTOL) test article to Holloman Air Force Base for demonstration and technology evaluation. The team will leverage the Arnold Engineering Development Complex Holloman High Speed Test Track to test the folding rotor, integrated propulsion and flight control technologies at representative flight speeds.
In 1942, the United Kingdom's Ministry of Aviation began a top secret project with Miles Aircraft to develop the world's first aircraft capable of breaking the sound barrier. The project resulted in the design of the turbojet-powered Miles M.52, with a maximum speed of 1,000 miles per hour (870 kn; 1,600 km/h) (over twice the existing airspeed record) in level flight, and able to climb to an altitude of 36,000 ft (11 km) in 1 min and 30 sec. The fuselage was shaped like a bullet, it had thin wings and a slab tailplane for controlled flight at the speed of sound and beyond. Miles' chief aerodynamicist, Dennis Bancroft, was interviewed many years later in 1997 on his reason for needing an all-moving tailplane in his 1944 design.
In 1944 Miles was told to go ahead with the construction of three prototypes. In February 1946, with a first flight expected in the summer of 1946, the M52 was cancelled.[3] In place of the manned full-scale M.52 it was decided to test 3/10 scale models of the aircraft, rocket propelled, dropped from an aircraft, and controlled by an autopilot. On the 10th of October 1948 a model achieved Mach 1.38 in level flight.
In September 1946 a DH 108 tail-less jet aircraft was practicing for an attempt on the world speed record when it experienced violent pitching oscillations at Mach 0.875 and broke up. The Bell XS-1 would have a conventional horizontal tail which provides pitch damping not present in a tail-less aircraft.
The XS-1 was first discussed in December 1944. Early specifications for the aircraft were for a piloted supersonic vehicle that could fly at 800 miles per hour (1,300 km/h) at 35,000 feet (11,000 m) for two to five minutes.[5] On 16 March 1945, the U.S. Army Air Forces Flight Test Division and the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) contracted with the Bell Aircraft Company to build three XS-1 (for "Experimental, Supersonic", later X-1) aircraft to obtain flight data on conditions in the transonic speed range.[6]
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