INLA ‘fled RUC trap’
By Staff reporter
AN INLA gang managed to escape a police trap last year
when they went to move a cache of guns including a
pistol used in the murder of a retired RUC man five days
earlier, a Belfast court heard yesterday.
The crown court was told that on April 1 last year police
uncovered the weapons in a house at Woodburn
Crescent in Dungannon and among them was a 9mm
pistol used in the murder of retired reservist Cyril Stewart
(52) in the carpark of an Armagh supermarket.
Prosecuting QC John Creaney said although police later
"surprised" a group of men as they went to move the
pistol, revolver, sawn-off shotgun and ammunition, they
managed to run off and make good their escape.
However, when the 33-year-old keyholder of the Housing
Executive house, Barry Dinsmore, from Braeside,
Dungannon arrived he was arrested and while initially
denying any knowledge of the guns, he eventually
admitted allowing the house to be used for INLA
meetings and to store guns.
Dinsmore, who pleaded guilty to possessing the
weapons and ammunition, INLA membership and
communicating information about two UDR soldiers
between 1993 and 1995, was jailed for five years.
Passing sentence Lord Justice McCollum said his
involvement was that of a "fringe member" and given his
considerable intellectual impairment he would not have
realised the seriousness of his actions, or their
consequences.
He did not believe Dinsmore was capable of being
involved in any violent offences himself and that he’d
been trying to ingratiate himself with INLA members and
in reality had been "turning a blind eye to the offences
of others."
But Lord Justice McCollum said Dinsmore’s serious
offences could only be dealt with by immediate
imprisonment as over the past 30 years such offences
had led on many occasions to far more serious crimes
being committed by others.
Earlier defence QC Eilish McDermott said Dinsmore was
a person "clearly easily led and was vulnerable to the
extent that it was easy for others to prey on him."
Ms McDermott said Dinsmore’s involvement stemmed
from his association with a number of men he met in a
bar and developed to such an extent that he began to
regard himself as a member of their organisation.
She added the men became aware of the house in
Woodburn Crescent and asked him to "leave the back
door on the snib" without telling him what they intended
using the house for.
Assuming you are a girl you must be brute ugly - and obviously don't have a
boyfriend as you appear to spend all of your pathetic life posting shit into
these newsgroups
Ps IF YOU AREN'T BORN ON THE ISLAND OF IRELAND YOU AREN'T IRISH !!!!!!!!!
Simpleton how bout if you was born on another island closeby and moved
there when you was the age of 2 back to the Mammy's and Daddy's place
cause they were working somewhere else when you was born and was there
ever since. Not IRISH by the mayor of simpleton's decree so shut yer
trap and quit yer whinging yer not Irish lots of yas.
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No need at all to stoop to personal abuse!
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>as you appear to spend all of your pathetic life posting shit into
>these newsgroups
And you appear to always have the time to read my posts. I guess you're an
ugly bastard with no life, eh?
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>> >Ps IF YOU AREN'T BORN ON THE ISLAND OF IRELAND YOU AREN'T IRISH
>!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Simpleton how bout if you was born on another island closeby and moved
>> there when you was the age of 2 back to the Mammy's and Daddy's place
>> cause they were working somewhere else when you was born and was there
>> ever since.
>
>Me too! There must must be thousands of us... I remember once the police
>bloke remarking on this at Holyhead as I was heading back after a few days
>away somehwere. I laughed and said how my brothers were always teasing me
>about this and calling me a Brit bastard. It was only when I was on the
>boat that it hit me what I had just said to him...
>
>> Not IRISH by the mayor of simpleton's decree so shut yer
>> trap and quit yer whinging yer not Irish lots of yas.
>
>Tell him to tell it to DeValera...
>
>G
>
>
>> __________________________________________________
>> The secret of being a bore is to tell everything.
>
>
If you had Irish parents and you were reared in Ireland and steeped in our
culture, you're Irish. Unlike the I-Am's.
SCI Ethnic Cleanser (Only buy Irish Vim)
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* To encourage understanding and discussion of Ireland and Irish culture, in
the many ways people wish to define it.
* To act as a focus for the Irish diaspora (Irish people, including
emigrants and their descendants) and to draw together the global threads of
Irishness.
Golden Arse, Ireland's Favourite Son wrote in message
<37eff3ae...@news1.tinet.ie>...
And Danielle probably has a piece of paper claiming he's a girl.
(Stick that up your... erm...)
Gerry Doyle <alacrityNO...@tinet.ie> wrote in message
news:7t6c3n$rrn$1...@scotty.tinet.ie...
> > If you had Irish parents and you were reared in Ireland and
steeped in our
> > culture, you're Irish. Unlike the I-Am's.
>
> You don't even need Irish parents, if you grow up in Ireland, no
matter
> where your people came from, then you are going to be Irish, no?
>
> G
this is SCI Geoff, you want sense?
PQ
Geoff
Gerry Doyle <alacrityNO...@tinet.ie> wrote in message
news:7t8piv$cg0$1...@scotty.tinet.ie...
> Grow up in Ireland, you will be Irish. Grow up in America, then you
are
> going to be an American. What else could you be?
>
> G
>
>
> g&e <ehutc...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:7t6dro$jam$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net...
> > So if you are reared in Ireland with American parents you are
Irish.
> > If you are raised in America by Irish parents you are not Irish...
> > Makes perfect sense!
> > :)
> > Geoff
> >
> > Gerry Doyle <alacrityNO...@tinet.ie> wrote in message
> > news:7t6c3n$rrn$1...@scotty.tinet.ie...
> Grow up in Ireland, you will be Irish. Grow up in America, then you are
> going to be an American. What else could you be?
>
> G
>
Actually, it is where you are *born* that matters, not where you were
brought up!
If you were born outside Ireland and wished to have Irish nationality, you
would have to go through the nationalization process, and get an Irish
passport, SFAIK.
--
Harry.
---
"Those Who Dwell In The Past Have No Life In The Future."
(Anon)
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Not if both your parents are Irish. Ever hear of Spike Milligan for
instance?
G
Which do you want?
G
>
> Geoff
> Gerry Doyle <alacrityNO...@tinet.ie> wrote in message
> news:7t8piv$cg0$1...@scotty.tinet.ie...
> > Grow up in Ireland, you will be Irish. Grow up in America, then you
> are
> > going to be an American. What else could you be?
> >
> > G
> >
> >
Danielle is going for the Rose of Tralee next year.
>Not so, GA, my brand new Irish citizenship papers, which are winging their
>way across the Atlantic even as we speak, will proclaim to the world that
>I'm Irish.
>-Conway
>(Put that in yer pipe and smoke it)
>
>--
>* To encourage understanding and discussion of Ireland and Irish culture, in
>the many ways people wish to define it.
>* To act as a focus for the Irish diaspora (Irish people, including
>emigrants and their descendants) and to draw together the global threads of
>Irishness.
>
>
>Golden Arse, Ireland's Favourite Son wrote in message
><37eff3ae...@news1.tinet.ie>...
>
>>If you had Irish parents and you were reared in Ireland and steeped in our
>>culture, you're Irish. Unlike the I-Am's.
>>
>>SCI Ethnic Cleanser (Only buy Irish Vim)
>
>
>
No matter what a piece of paper says, you're not Irish. However if you
start paying in DIRT and PRSI and PAYE I might start taking you seriously.
Until then, you're a Yank with a red passport with a harp on the front, so
he can claim some sort of heritage because the country he's in has none..
Nothing more.
The Mac CunnyBunny wrote in message <38035cd9....@news.verio.net>...
>Gerry Doyle wrote:>
>>Harry Merrick <merr...@agencies.dnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>
>>> If you were born outside Ireland and wished to have Irish nationality,
you
>>> would have to go through the nationalization process, and get an Irish
>>> passport, SFAIK.
>>
>>Not if both your parents are Irish. Ever hear of Spike Milligan for
>>instance?
>
>Not if *one* grandparent is Irish...
Didn't it used to be if your grandparent was born on the island of Ireland
before 1921?
petesy
--
To doubt everything or believe everything are two equally convenient
solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
Geoff
Gerry Doyle <alacrityNO...@tinet.ie> wrote in message
news:7tbl5m$v9s$2...@scotty.tinet.ie...
> > > > > > If you had Irish parents and you were reared in Ireland
and
> > > > steeped in our
> > > > > > culture, you're Irish. Unlike the I-Am's.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't even need Irish parents, if you grow up in
Ireland, no
> > > > matter
> > > > > where your people came from, then you are going to be Irish,
no?
> > > > >
> > > > > G
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
My sister was born in England so she is a brit. She was only 2 when I
was born in Ireland. I am a real Irish child, she is sort of like not
really a proper baby even. She is like getting the flu or something.
She is a girl *and* English.
She got a nurses uniform for Christmas once and insisted in looking up
my wee sore Irish arse. I always had a sore arse because I was too
young to wipe the shit from it. I use to just sit on me wee red bum and
look Irish and shit myself.
I had not got a cowboy suit yet. I did not know Cowboys were potty
trained either. My potty had a wee horses head. I used to sit and shit
in my saddle, I was a real cowboy. I had a gun as well. I still pissed
on the carpet after I learned to shit in the saddle.
I pissed on cats as well. I pissed in the fireplace once and almost put
it out. I was glad I never tried shitting in the fireplace. I wasn't
allowed, if I toddled over to the fire everybody shouted at me and I
just shat myself where I stood. Well toddled really.
I threw my sister's teddy in the fire once. He burst into flames and I
just stood there and cried, I was delighted with myself but I didn't
want my shitty arse smacked so I had to pretend it was an accident. The
wee bugger was a Protestant bear, he didn't go to chapel like mine.
Priest even shook my teddy's paw, he was officially a taig bear.
--
Mr. Rattleakey
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
So someone who lived in Ireland since they were a baby, went to local
schools, speaks with a flat Dublin accent and probably better Gaeilge than
you have, is what exactly?
G
> >
> >
>
>I had not got a cowboy suit yet. I did not know Cowboys were potty
>trained either. My potty had a wee horses head. I used to sit and shit
>in my saddle, I was a real cowboy. I had a gun as well. I still pissed
>on the carpet after I learned to shit in the saddle.
>I threw my sister's teddy in the fire once. He burst into flames and I
>just stood there and cried, I was delighted with myself but I didn't
>want my shitty arse smacked so I had to pretend it was an accident. The
>wee bugger was a Protestant bear, he didn't go to chapel like mine.
This was such a lovely heartwarming story, I don't know if I like the
bit about the burning baptist bear (I'm assuming presbytarian but
baptist was substituted for obvious reasons) or the saddle shit the
best.
At any rate it has convinced me I was very wrong about snotty little
monsters and I will commence spewing them out at a violent rate
shortly. I may decide to bear them in England as they will be a bit
cleaner and not quite as shitty I think, and can give checks rather
than bits of pocket fluff and change at mass (services) at least that
is what I get from the story. I will say I bore you in England you are
a beautiful Brit boy and they will say to me Ma you bore me whereever
we fucking are.
Eh! an aspiring culchie?
Si,
"Bog Snorkler Extrordinaire"
:Priest even shook my teddy's paw, he was officially a taig bear.
Hi Greg....
Falcon
>
> Danielle is going for the Rose of Tralee next year.
>
Someone should warn the Rose before Danielle gets to her then.
Loved it...
KateH
A Dublin tinker.
Colin
--
Frisbeetarianism, n.: The belief that when you
die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck.
I am full of lucid intervals followed by ludicrous intervals followed
by a cup of tea and a biscuit.
--
Mr. Rattleakey
So the planters need to go home or what?
--
Woepcke
_
>> Danielle is going for the Rose of Tralee next year.
>
>Someone should warn the Rose before Danielle gets to her then.
I'm sure I could show her a better time than some of the men in this NG. :>
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"We can't give up dreaming, even if it sounds romantic and obsolete."
- Gioconda Belli
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>
>Golden Arse, Ireland's Favourite Son <G_a...@hotmailSPAMLOK.com> wrote in
>message news:37f8ad5e...@news1.tinet.ie...
>> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:41:34 +0100, "Gerry Doyle"
>> <alacrityNO...@tinet.ie> wrote:
>>
>> >> If you had Irish parents and you were reared in Ireland and steeped in
>our
>> >> culture, you're Irish. Unlike the I-Am's.
>> >
>> >You don't even need Irish parents, if you grow up in Ireland, no matter
>> >where your people came from, then you are going to be Irish, no?
>> >
>> >G
>> >> SCI Ethnic Cleanser (Only buy Irish Vim)
>> >>
>> Nope.
>
>So someone who lived in Ireland since they were a baby, went to local
>schools, speaks with a flat Dublin accent and probably better Gaeilge than
>you have, is what exactly?
>
>G
A Knacker from Waterford most likely.
Not at all! Since most of the so called planters have had generations of
families born within Ireland, then they too are Irish, every bit as much
as the Republican population is Irish.
I like the ludicrous intervals best.
KateH :)
Waterford? What the fuck is all this going on about Waterford?
G
>
>
Where exactly is "elsewhere"? Still trying to come to grips w/ the double
Doyle thing. I always just ignored Gerry thinking he was the other one.
Kate(sorry)H :)