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    Chris Casey <boroc...@gmail.com> Mar 14 05:13AM -0700  

    I would hope that I might qualify lol
    CPC Computer Solutions Ltd.
     
    On Friday, 14 March 2014 12:07:12 UTC, carl wrote:

     

    Carl Reynolds <drc...@gmail.com> Mar 14 12:41PM  

    Excellent, we might even find more than 40 to have a top 40 of at this
    rate! :-)
     
     

     

    Andy Williamson <a...@bigbuzzard.co.uk> Mar 14 12:44PM  

    The Learning Clinic (makes VitalPac) ?
     
    Sent from phone, so apologies for brevity and any typos.
     

     

    michael odling-smee <michael.o...@xml-solutions.com> Mar 14 12:46PM  

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    Chris Casey <boroc...@gmail.com> Mar 14 04:03AM -0700  

    Unfortunately events have got on top of me so not been able to progress
    things as quickly as I would have liked.
    In order to keeps things moving until I can set up a proper request
    mechanism if people would like the ability to add wifi details to the
    hospitals in the database then email me from this message with your
    requested username and I will set you up with passwords to do that.
     
    I am struggling a bit in trying to ignore non-hospitals from the lookups as
    the data I got from the NHS site to load the database does not have any
    identifiers that I can use to ignore (e.g. clinics individually identified
    in the data but belonging to a hospital also identified) them. I am
    thinking through ways to do this systematically.
     
    On Thursday, 13 March 2014 09:59:19 UTC, Chris Casey wrote:

     

    "VJ" <v...@doctors.org.uk> Mar 14 11:09AM  

    How about just using the dataset that I sent the group?
     
    Clinics and the like are already excluded.
     

     
    From: nhsha...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nhsha...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Casey
    Sent: 14 March 2014 11:03
    To: nhsha...@googlegroups.com
    Subject: [nhshackday] Re: List of hospitals/trusts with wifi, especially free for patients & visitors
     

     
    Unfortunately events have got on top of me so not been able to progress things as quickly as I would have liked.
     
    In order to keeps things moving until I can set up a proper request mechanism if people would like the ability to add wifi details to the hospitals in the database then email me from this message with your requested username and I will set you up with passwords to do that.
     

     
    I am struggling a bit in trying to ignore non-hospitals from the lookups as the data I got from the NHS site to load the database does not have any identifiers that I can use to ignore (e.g. clinics individually identified in the data but belonging to a hospital also identified) them. I am thinking through ways to do this systematically.
     
    On Thursday, 13 March 2014 09:59:19 UTC, Chris Casey wrote:
     
     
    First cut code now up on github github.com/borochris/aboutMyHospital <http://github.com/borochris/aboutMyHospital>
     
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    Chris Casey <boroc...@gmail.com> Mar 14 04:26AM -0700  

    VJ,
     
    unfortunately your dataset is quite limited for my long term purposes.
    I am intending to expand this site for many other things and as such I need
    to use a dataset with as much data as possible and one maintained by the
    NHS so that I can refresh it on a regular basis.
    I currently have about 24,000 sites detailed in the database.
     
    Chris
     
    On Friday, 14 March 2014 11:09:38 UTC, VJ wrote:

     

    "VJ" <v...@doctors.org.uk> Mar 14 11:44AM  

    Just let me know what fields you need and I’ll add them into my query.
     
    If I don’t have them then it’s time to reinvent the wheel.
     

     
    As previously discussed, I only kept it limited to mimic the original Google Doc.
     

     
    From: nhsha...@googlegroups.com [mailto:nhsha...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Casey
    Sent: 14 March 2014 11:27
    To: nhsha...@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: [nhshackday] Re: List of hospitals/trusts with wifi, especially free for patients & visitors
     

     
    VJ,
     

     
    unfortunately your dataset is quite limited for my long term purposes.
    I am intending to expand this site for many other things and as such I need to use a dataset with as much data as possible and one maintained by the NHS so that I can refresh it on a regular basis.
     
    I currently have about 24,000 sites detailed in the database.
     

     
    Chris
     
    On Friday, 14 March 2014 11:09:38 UTC, VJ wrote:
     
    How about just using the dataset that I sent the group?
     
    Clinics and the like are already excluded.
     

     
    From: nhsha...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:nhsha...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Chris Casey
    Sent: 14 March 2014 11:03
    To: nhsha...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
    Subject: [nhshackday] Re: List of hospitals/trusts with wifi, especially free for patients & visitors
     

     
    Unfortunately events have got on top of me so not been able to progress things as quickly as I would have liked.
     
    In order to keeps things moving until I can set up a proper request mechanism if people would like the ability to add wifi details to the hospitals in the database then email me from this message with your requested username and I will set you up with passwords to do that.
     

     
    I am struggling a bit in trying to ignore non-hospitals from the lookups as the data I got from the NHS site to load the database does not have any identifiers that I can use to ignore (e.g. clinics individually identified in the data but belonging to a hospital also identified) them. I am thinking through ways to do this systematically.
     
    On Thursday, 13 March 2014 09:59:19 UTC, Chris Casey wrote:
     
     
    First cut code now up on github github.com/borochris/aboutMyHospital <http://github.com/borochris/aboutMyHospital>
     
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    Chris Casey <boroc...@gmail.com> Mar 14 04:55AM -0700  

    Ah ok, sorry didn't re-read the original posting well enough.
    The database is now populated from the NHS CSV file with all of it's fields
    so without rebuilding I am stuck with that.
    If you have identified a way to determine actual hospitals from that data
    then I could possibly apply that.
     
    On Friday, 14 March 2014 11:44:00 UTC, VJ wrote:

     

    David Rankin <rank...@gmail.com> Mar 13 09:17AM -0700  

    Hi all, thanks for your feedback, and quite a few things mentioned here
    came on the Hack Day too. No Barry you are not the only Mr Negative - maybe
    the first ;-), but feedback is what I am looking for, and your points are
    valid, thank you.
     
    (Sorry it's taken a while to reply. Have had some issues... Why does it
    take *around* 6 weeks for a medical record to move from one surgery to
    another, when the surgeries are less than 4 miles apart?...)
     
    I am not sure how LifeSquare or any of the other competitors operate, we
    actually found quite a few variations on this idea all offering different
    solutions at different costs, so LifeSquare in itself is not unique. In
    fact the most interesting device was the ICEDot Crash Sensor - RRP around
    125GBP plus annual subscription fee, now that is out of reach of my pocket,
    don't know about any others. And as with all the systems we looked into,
    each was subject to limitations. Eventually, as technology improves
    hopefully the limitations, such as, poor signals, short battery life, GPS
    Systems being turned off, etc.. will be overcome.
     
    Regarding privacy, from experience, I have found that friends of mine who
    have medical conditions, tell me they have issues, just in case something
    were to happen. ( I often forget what they have when we are doing outdoor
    pursuits, but they remind me) I would be very concerned if a system had a
    very extensive medical record of me accessible online, where I was not in
    control (dare.data). I suppose any data stored on the internet is
    susceptible to abuse, even if "only health care professionals" are supposed
    to have access.
     
    Privacy was a big concern in all these systems. We address this with Bcon,
    delete you profile, and this offending "Photo Graph" you mentioned won't
    work anymore. Generate a new profile and you get a new QR Code. Here the
    "patient" is in control of his "mini" medical record. From the start, we
    had the idea is that you are in control of the data, and you can choose
    what you want people to know.
     
    (aside) Photos of physical objects can be risky, has anyone read ->
    Reconsidering Physical Key Secrecy: Teleduplication via Optical Decoding by
    Laxton, Wang and Savage? On my crypto course when I was a student, some
    classmates invented a solution to stop people from "sniffing" your dorm
    keys from a slyly taken photo. This involved a piece of card held together
    by sellotape, which you slipped over your dorm key, to prevent it revealing
    its secrets, we could try make something like that... :-)
     
    Yes, we liked the idea of a wristband with a Bcon QR Code too, and we may
    well try make one, if people want it, just like introducing different
    access levels/privacy levels, if people want it. The reason we have not
    explored the wrist band is that I don't want to encourage public (non
    medically trained) people to twist someone's arm to find/read a medical
    band. I much prefer the hands off approach with something like an NFC/FRID
    Chip, which you can store more data or a link to relevant information, but
    that all boils down to cost, and also availability of suitable reading
    devices....
     
    Finally, let me know about this "anti *NHS* Hack Day" blog post, I'll add
    my two pence too. I know that hack days are disruptive, that's why I think
    they are brilliant, exciting and make changes for the good. Let people be
    creative about problems we deal with and fix things instead of doing...
    nothing...
     
     
    On Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:19:59 PM UTC, David Rankin wrote:

     

    Helga Perry <shark...@gmail.com> Mar 13 04:24PM  

    One suggestion for improvement: the calendar for date of birth is more suitable for forward planning, e.g. travel booking. There are others available which make it easier to select year, month, day of birth.
     
    Sent from my iPhone
     

     

    Barry Rowlingson <b.rowl...@lancaster.ac.uk> Mar 13 04:26PM  

    Finally, let me know about this "anti *NHS* Hack Day" blog post, I'll add
    > they are brilliant, exciting and make changes for the good. Let people be
    > creative about problems we deal with and fix things instead of doing...
    > nothing...
     
    Steven's blog post was not anti-NHS Hack Day, it was some mild cynicism
    about hackathons being mostly PR events for the organisers:
     
    http://knowwhereconsulting.co.uk/what-the-hack/
     
    Just to note that Steven is one of the good guys in the open data/open
    source arena, he was chair of the international open-source geospatial
    FOSS4G conference in Nottingham last year, to much acclaim.
     
    Barry

     

    David Rankin <rank...@gmail.com> Mar 13 02:22PM -0700  

    That calendar date picker! It is a problem. I tried using the snazzy new
    built in date pickers with the new iphone(iOS7) , android and html 5
    browsers, but the localization was getting messed up, and dates were going
    in the wrong format, and older phones just ignored it....
     
    I also tried a few date pickers, but on windows phone I had issues with
    bootstrap, and then my old android phone kicked up a fuss and would not
    scroll when the jQuery calendar popped up. Trying to target x-browser has
    been difficult, its quite time consuming, I have tested it on nokia lumia
    520, ipad 2, nexus 5, htc desire, samsung galaxy ace 2 and some other
    emulators, IE9, IE10, Safari and Firefox, Chrome..... I have about 4
    different physical devices I can test on, but each one seems to play a
    little different, so I have been force down to the least fancy solution,
    oldskool drop down menus, sadly. :(
     
    But luckily you only need to fill it in once, if you want, but I might
    write a script that does some browser / platform detection, and gives the
    best date UI for your device.
     
    If anyone has or knows of a really cool date picker tool, let me know. I
    have always been impressed by sencha (Ext.JS)
    http://docs.sencha.com/touch/2.3.1/#!/example/pickers
     
    On Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:24:07 PM UTC, Helga Perry wrote:

     

 tea
    Rob Dyke <r...@tactix4.com> Mar 13 02:46PM  

    Has someone powned Malcolm?
     
     
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