Payloader Vs Wheel Loader

[Vinnie Frevert]

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Which do you guys think is better and why? Seems to me like a front end loader would be better for material handling, such as round bales and everything else. I know with a pay loader (unless it's a versatile) you lose most of your tractor capabilities, pto etc. Just wandered everybody's opinion, all replies are appreciated.

Depends on what you are doing.The guys that bale for me own three payloaders.A Case w-14,Ford 62 and a Cat 930.They said they where cheaper to buy and hold up better then FWA with loaders.They have lots of help so they can pick bales up right behind the balers.

Only thing I could see a pay loader being useful for would be silage and dirt moving. Personally, I'd rather have a heavy duty front end loader on a tractor, smaller then a pay loader and you can use it for more then just loader work.

I've yet to see a ag front end loader that will stand up over time. We had a 740 Jd on our 4560. It was one of the biggest pos that I've seen. Wouldn't lift nothing and wore out pretty quick. Unless you planing on doing more pto work then loader work go buy a wheel loader. A good used one will last most farmers a life time.

Not quite the same but a couple years ago I bought a CAT backhoe. WE have had tractor loaders around the farm since the early '40s but after seeing the difference between what the loader on the CAT could do vs the loader on the 4020 I traded off the 4020 & loader and haven't regretted it since.

Sure, there's some things the backhoe can't do that a farm tractor can but there's other tractors on the farm that can do them & the backhow was bought for the loader & hoe, not to do farm work with. No experience with a wheel loader but there's not a farm loader out there that will do 1/2 what it will do. If you're looking at it from the loader stand point then go with it, especially if you're going to be lifting heavy loads. I don't think you'll regrett it. If you're looking at something more versatile go with a tractor/loader but be carefull with it. Large loads on the front can be very dangerous.

A lot of it depends upon your goals. If you wan ta tractor to do some occasional loader work get a tractor and add the front end loader. If you want a loader to do loader work get the front end loader.

We always had MF (Let the jokes fly) industrial loaders. Dad has a MF 50ex. First one with the shuttle shift and we wired it to the loader joystick which is awsome. In terms of lift this tractor has a little 4 banger Perkins and when we worked on the "Blue Lagoon" AKA Slurrystore, the guys were impressed and said it has more hydralic power than a 7800 Deere. The main thing is the loader is part of the frame and the machine is designed to be used that way. We used that tractor an average of about 15+hrs a day for everything from loading manure to feeding, to using it a sa hoist and very rarely did we ever find something this little machine wouldn't lift.

I know this is not a payloader, but a payloader is alot the same in that it is designed to be used as a loader, not a farm tractor with a add-on. In addition the pivots in th eloader frame a rebuildable along with about everything else while I have been told the farm loaders are not.

Just like my opinions on a 3pt backhoe, or a snow blade on a garden tractor, a loader on a tractor is really just a step up from a block and tackle or strong back muscles for moving things. They are the greatest thing out there until you use something better, then you question yourself every time after on why you didn't update sooner.

A good wheel loader vs. a loader tractor is no contest for me, wheel loader will win every time. They were built around the loader, not the opposite like the tractor/loader. And hold up/work better accordingly.

We have a IH payloader on the farm along with a backhoe and front-endloader. We are able to move bale with the front-endloader just fine. We would use the payloader, but with bad brakes, we only use it to clear trees off feilds in the spring and filling the Bunker silo, along with all of our major dirt moving projects.

I've run a payloader and a tractor and loader, payloaders are useless im mud compared to a front wheel assist tractor. A payloader, unless you get a pretty new one, doesn't go down the road very fast and really slow up hill. That said they will work circles around a loader tractor for dirt work, loading silage and moving snow. Most older payloaders don't have very good brakes, and can be very expensive to work on if there's a transmission problem. I'd say it depends on what you are going to use it for.

Underground contractors around here are running skidder tires on their loaders, They get around just fine. The other thing, rember that wheel loaders are twice the weight of a similar sized wheel tractors.

After all, a wheel loader is always in demand for all sorts of applications, so we offer a variety of model configurations to hone machinery to your exact requirements. Not to mention whole ranges of options and attachments.

Olivetroad or anyone: on those small payloaders is there any vertical oscillation on the front axle or are they all rigid/in one plane as a skid steer? How is that small size on snow, ice and uneven rough ground? in mud?

I believe the ride control button activates a solenoid valve which puts an accumulator into the lift arm circuit. This introduces a bit of cushion into the load which results in a smoother ride. Generally it would be turned off when scraping as you want to hold the bucket on the ground and turned on when transporting so the load isn't rigidly connected to rough ground. This is the way the manual on/off accumulator works on my ALO tractor loader.

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