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Sheldon

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Jan 6, 2005, 8:14:02 PM1/6/05
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We've been getting quite a few calls from 1-800-470-2193 for a little over a
month now, several times a day. Last week we got one and we told them to
stop calling. Apparently that's like replying to spam telling them to stop
emailing you. They didn't stop.

On each occasion, the call comes in, you answer it and they hang up. Tonight
we got another call, they hung up, and I got a little unhappy. So I called
them back, and waited on hold for about 10 minutes before a customer service
rep answered. She speeled out the name of the organization and I requested
her name and to slowly tell me the name of the organization again.

Anyway, to make a long story short, it was a call from the "Canadian
Professional Police Association" selling tickets to a comedy show, or to
make a donation. The 800-470 number appears to be an American toll free
number. I politely asked (told) her to remove my number from the auto
dialer, and to stop calls or I would contact the RCMP Phonebusters line
(closed now for the night).

I think that this is a poor way of doing business, especially for a
professional organization dealing with crime prevention. The Association
does exist, and the comedy show is an actual event that will happen, but
these over persistent phone calls are of question.

That's my beef for the night!


Misty

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Jan 7, 2005, 6:38:27 AM1/7/05
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I've also be getting calls from that number nightly. I have yet to answer
it (I love caller ID!) I figured it was someone trying to sell something so
I never bother to answer it. Thanks for the heads up on what it is!


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Jen

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Jan 7, 2005, 7:14:07 AM1/7/05
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They called here to and here is their web site
...http://www.cppa-acpp.ca/index-english.htm... so if they don't take you
off there phone list contact some one there


Dale Fraser

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Jan 7, 2005, 10:07:15 AM1/7/05
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Sheldon <shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyway, to make a long story short, it was a call from the "Canadian
> Professional Police Association" selling tickets to a comedy show, or to
> make a donation. The 800-470 number appears to be an American toll free
> number. I politely asked (told) her to remove my number from the auto
> dialer, and to stop calls or I would contact the RCMP Phonebusters line
> (closed now for the night).

To the best of my knowledge, this is a scam. My Dad had a call in Gander
just before Christmas from the same people. Unless this organization is
new since he retired from the RCMP, it is bogus. The only association he
is aware of is the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police
(www.cacp.ca). When he brought this to their attention, he was told to
f%@k off and they hung up. He also called the hotel that is apparently
hosting this event in Gander and they did not have any booking for them.
He has passed this all of his information onto the local RCMP. May be
worth a call to your local RCMP detatchment and the Better Business
Bureau to see if this is legit or not.

Dale

Jen

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Jan 7, 2005, 1:49:12 PM1/7/05
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Dale they phoned here last night also . I politely told then I wasn't
interested in buying tickets at this time and the man was very nice and game
me there web site which I put in here earlier today I to have never heard
tell of them

http://www.cppa-acpp.ca/

This is the site he gave me and if you go in there you will see that there
is going to be a show at
St. John's, NL
Holiday Inn . March 12, 2005

Gander, NL
Gander Hotel . March 13, 2005
so it seems to be on the up and up !!


Carter

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Jan 7, 2005, 2:54:52 PM1/7/05
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Dale Fraser wrote:

Looks fairly legit to me.

http://www.cppa-acpp.ca/index-english.htm

Carter

Nat

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Jan 7, 2005, 2:57:50 PM1/7/05
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By phoning the number back, you may have already been scammed. They were
likely counting on you having call display and eventually calling back the
seemingly harmless 800 number to find out why they were calling and hanging
up. You actually get charged for the call and they keep you on the phone
for as long as they can. Here's a link that describes a such a scam. You
might want to check with your long distance provider and see if this is the
case. Keep us posted and good luck.

http://www.uscg.mil/Legal/la/topics/consumer_and_contract_matters/ms_phone_scam.html

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Nat

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Jan 7, 2005, 3:04:18 PM1/7/05
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Here's a link describing another 800 scam.
http://www.uidaho.edu/its/telecom/tsrepair.htm Basically, when you call
back, your phone number shows up on their call display, they assign a phone
card to your phone number and start charging long distance calls to you!

"Once connected, automated equipment will often set up an instant calling
card number and charge for these calls, with billing coming back to the
number that the call was dialed from. "

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Dale Fraser

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Jan 7, 2005, 2:15:27 PM1/7/05
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As I mentioned in my post, when Hotel Gander was contacted about the
event, they knew nothing about it. If I remember, I'll contact Holiday
Inn to see if they have a booking.

You can't always believe everything a web site states, no matter how
legit it appears.

Dale

Sheldon

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Jan 7, 2005, 4:22:52 PM1/7/05
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I just got off the phone with the RCMP phonebuster line, and got an earfull
of interesting information.

It seems that this particular case is actually legit. What happens is that
the telemarketing company for the Canadian Professional Police Association
gets a split on monies taken in. This split for this one seems to be around
83% for the telemarketing company, and 17% for the CPPA. There's the
incentive to hammer all of our phones with these solicitations. The phones
are dialed with an automated dialer. For every 10 calls established, 2 are
answered, and 8 go in a queue until a customer service rep is available.

Well, at least they haven't called today, the first time in about a month!

Sheldon

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Clyde Anderson

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Jan 7, 2005, 9:23:32 PM1/7/05
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wow they called me and i got sucked in.....when the tickets come i'm gonna
send em back. i thought the $$ was going to a good cause, but if this is the
tactics they use, i'm not going!

Clyde


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Misty

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Jan 8, 2005, 12:10:07 AM1/8/05
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Lucky you, They have called me everyday for at least the last month, today
included. I have yet to pick up the phone.


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