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Justme
Aug 1, 2008, 4:01:43 PM8/1/08
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how does crown land become freehold land?
For example: if there are 5 cabins in a row, each on an acre of land
and the cabin in the middle is freehold land and the 2 cabins on
either side are "leased"crownland, how did the cabin in the middle
become freehold land?
For example: if there are 5 cabins in a row, each on an acre of land
and the cabin in the middle is freehold land and the 2 cabins on
either side are "leased"crownland, how did the cabin in the middle
become freehold land?
Thanks for any help.
Danimal
Aug 1, 2008, 4:38:31 PM8/1/08
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Freehold land is land over which the Crown has granted an interest. ... When
freehold land is needed for that sort of use, the Crown first tries to buy
the land and depending on how bad they want it, they could expropriate it
and pay what they deem it worth, In cases such as that, it could mean that
they want to put in a right-of-way for a road thru to access crown land as
one example. It could even be for a park such Pippy Park as the case for
homes in the Groves Road area.
If you purchase freehold land, it means in other words, you could be evicted
at any time.
freehold land is needed for that sort of use, the Crown first tries to buy
the land and depending on how bad they want it, they could expropriate it
and pay what they deem it worth, In cases such as that, it could mean that
they want to put in a right-of-way for a road thru to access crown land as
one example. It could even be for a park such Pippy Park as the case for
homes in the Groves Road area.
If you purchase freehold land, it means in other words, you could be evicted
at any time.
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Stormlady
Aug 1, 2008, 6:33:04 PM8/1/08
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I think it is that the lease on the land is up. Years ago, land was leased
to people from the Govt for say 99 years, but when the lease was up, the
govt wasn't really that interested in renewing the lease, so it just sold
the land to the people it was leased to. I think oftentimes for like a
dollar. I believe they may also have changed it so that new leases were for
999 years as opposed to 99. This may not be everything there is to it, but
I think I'm partly right :-)
to people from the Govt for say 99 years, but when the lease was up, the
govt wasn't really that interested in renewing the lease, so it just sold
the land to the people it was leased to. I think oftentimes for like a
dollar. I believe they may also have changed it so that new leases were for
999 years as opposed to 99. This may not be everything there is to it, but
I think I'm partly right :-)
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mudtrout
Aug 1, 2008, 6:48:02 PM8/1/08
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All physical land in Canada is the property of the Crown, Queen Elisabeth
II. There is no provision in the Canada Act, or in the Constitution Act 1982
which amends it, for any Canadian to own any physical land in Canada. All
that Canadians may hold, in conformity with medieval and feudal law, is "an
interest in an estate in land in fee simple". Land defined as 'Crown land'
in Canada, and administered by the Federal Government and the Provinces, is
merely land not 'dedicated' or assigned in freehold tenure. Freehold is
tenure, not ownership. Freehold land is 'held' not 'owned'.
II. There is no provision in the Canada Act, or in the Constitution Act 1982
which amends it, for any Canadian to own any physical land in Canada. All
that Canadians may hold, in conformity with medieval and feudal law, is "an
interest in an estate in land in fee simple". Land defined as 'Crown land'
in Canada, and administered by the Federal Government and the Provinces, is
merely land not 'dedicated' or assigned in freehold tenure. Freehold is
tenure, not ownership. Freehold land is 'held' not 'owned'.
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Justme
Aug 2, 2008, 2:21:13 PM8/2/08
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On Aug 1, 6:38 pm, "Danimal" <danim...@theshow.ca> wrote:
> Freehold land is land over which the Crown has granted an interest. ... When
> freehold land is needed for that sort of use, the Crown first tries to buy
> the land and depending on how bad they want it, they could expropriate it
> and pay what they deem it worth, In cases such as that, it could mean that
> they want to put in a right-of-way for a road thru to access crown land as
> one example. It could even be for a park such Pippy Park as the case for
> homes in the Groves Road area.
> If you purchase freehold land, it means in other words, you could be evicted
> at any time.
>
> "Justme" <kpwh...@nl.rogers.com> wrote in message> Freehold land is land over which the Crown has granted an interest. ... When
> freehold land is needed for that sort of use, the Crown first tries to buy
> the land and depending on how bad they want it, they could expropriate it
> and pay what they deem it worth, In cases such as that, it could mean that
> they want to put in a right-of-way for a road thru to access crown land as
> one example. It could even be for a park such Pippy Park as the case for
> homes in the Groves Road area.
> If you purchase freehold land, it means in other words, you could be evicted
> at any time.
>
>
> news:2fbdb034-2c39-4786...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > how does crown land become freehold land?
> > For example: if there are 5 cabins in a row, each on an acre of land
> > and the cabin in the middle is freehold land and the 2 cabins on
> > either side are "leased"crownland, how did the cabin in the middle
> > become freehold land?
>
> > Thanks for any help.
The deed i have says owner owns the land absolutely and forever.
And is also tax exempt. (from original poster)
stan
Aug 3, 2008, 1:19:39 PM8/3/08
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On Aug 1, 8:48 pm, "mudtrout" <mudtrout@_remove_gmail.com> wrote:
> All physical land in Canada is the property of the Crown, Queen Elisabeth
> II. There is no provision in the Canada Act, or in the Constitution Act 1982
> which amends it, for any Canadian to own any physical land in Canada. All
> that Canadians may hold, in conformity with medieval and feudal law, is "an
> interest in an estate in land in fee simple". Land defined as 'Crown land'
> in Canada, and administered by the Federal Government and the Provinces, is
> merely land not 'dedicated' or assigned in freehold tenure. Freehold is
> tenure, not ownership. Freehold land is 'held' not 'owned'.
.> All physical land in Canada is the property of the Crown, Queen Elisabeth
> II. There is no provision in the Canada Act, or in the Constitution Act 1982
> which amends it, for any Canadian to own any physical land in Canada. All
> that Canadians may hold, in conformity with medieval and feudal law, is "an
> interest in an estate in land in fee simple". Land defined as 'Crown land'
> in Canada, and administered by the Federal Government and the Provinces, is
> merely land not 'dedicated' or assigned in freehold tenure. Freehold is
> tenure, not ownership. Freehold land is 'held' not 'owned'.
Hey mudtrout; very interesting! How could that information connect
with our concern that existing traditional trails and rights of way,
including access to ponds etc. are bing interfred with and in some
cases shut off by 'private land owners'/dvelopers.
I was recently investigating a traditional trail/right of way that has
been used to my personal knowledge for at least the last 50 years (and
longer) which crosses the rear of what is now a private building lot.
Doing so I was cahllnged by an individual who said "That's my land";
according to the definition above that person is merely 'holding' the
use of that land under some sort purchase of their house which has
been erected upon it!
Would welcome more discussion if possible please.
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