Newfoundland women singers to watch for
David Dalton
or if I am missing any web pages (the web pages will
eventually be added in to my web page, to hotlink
the solo artist or band names).
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Some of my favourite Newfoundland female non-folk vocalists are:
Liz Pickard ( http://www.lizband.com ),
(of Lizband, playing The Ship Oct. 10 in double bill with Coast Guard)
Pamela Morgan ( http://www.pamelamorgan.ca ),
(ex-of Figgy Duff but solo is more soft pop than folk rock)
Damhnait Doyle,
http://www.dav-net.com/ (solo and also now in band Shaye with Kim
Stockwood and Tara MacLean)
Kim Stockwood,
fan page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7222/
(solo and also now in band Shaye with Damhnait Doyle and Tara Maclean)
Erin Best ( http://www.rasa.ca ),
(in band Rasa with Sandy Morris and others, playing Grapevine Oct. 7,
no cover)
Colleen Power ( http://www.colleenpower.com ),
2nd CD out soon I think
Kathy Phippard (Tori and Sarah and NF and blues/jazz influenced),
http://www.kathyphippard.com/
Jackie Sullivan ( http://www.jackiesullivan.com ),
Natalie Nivera,
Natalie Noseworthy,
Rhiannon Thomas ( of Coast Guard
http://www.newmusiccanada.ca/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=7897 )
[playing The Ship Oct. 10 in double bill with Lizband, +RT solo
opening for Persona at LSPU same night])
Sheri Ryan,
Amelia Curran ( of SenseAmelia Project ),
http://www.ecmaprofiles.com/member/index.asp?memberid=283
(solo and in SenseAmelia Project )
Tanya Alexander,
ex-of Shy Mary
Jenny Gear
http://www.deathbrand.com/jenny/index.php
(made the top 5 level in Canadian Idol, playing
the LSPU 8:30 p.m. Oct. 8, $5)
Vicky Hynes,
http://www.ambermusic.ca/album.asp?prod_code=1454&catid=2
Sara and Kamilla,
http://www.sarakamila.com/ (nice webpage, from a glance)
Kyla Tilley, Andrea Monroe,
http://www.quirkfolk.net/index.php
http://www.quirkfolk.net/About%20Us/index.php
http://www.quirkfolk.net/About%20Us/kyla.php
http://www.quirkfolk.net/About%20Us/andrea.php
Mary Barry,
http://www.marybarry.net/site.html
and Susan Gale
http://www.sns-nf.com/students/1999Jan/ddowney/tunes.htm
Also (though I will focus on folk singers in another
post to the folk newsgroups sometime later) there are also
some very good singers who specialize in folk,
e.g. Anita Best, Maura Hagan, Jean Hewson, Joy Norman,
Michelle Myrick, Vonnie Baron (Barron?), Phyllis
Morissey, Priscilla Dalton, Sally Goddard (of Atlantic
Union), The Ennis Sisters, and more.
Also probably there are some I have forgotten for now
so let me know if I should add any names, and also
if there are web pages I should mention that I haven't
(e.g. a better Kim Stockwood web page with MP3s).
And there are some who I have heard very little of yet
including none live, but who are supposed to be good,
including Kelly Anne Evans, Christa Borden,
Terri Lynn Eddy, ...
And there are some who I haven't heard in a long
time including Shirley Dalton, Sharon Hynes, Petrina Bromley,
Raquel Hoekman, Toni Greene, Lori Cooper, and others.
Also for the http://www.lizband.com site note that the two
earlier CDs are in the MP3s section and the third CD
MP3s (including good songs such as Denial and Fishes,
Nobody's Friend and others) are on the main page
(just scroll down a bit), and a fourth CD will be out soon,
and also while Lizband are very good on CD they are even better
live (and are playing The Ship Oct. 10 from a poster I saw in
the skywalk between the Earth Sciences Building and the
Smallwood University Centre here at MUN earlier, in a
double bill with Coast Guard).
Also on that above list almost all of them are very
good songwriters too and the few (Jenny, Vicky,
some others) who are interpreters of other songwriters'
songs seem to choose very good songs.
So anyway I partly dug out all those extra web pages
above so I can later hotlink more names on my web
page, but I figured I would post them too. But
certainly there are enough for a Newfoundland version
of Lilith Fair with stops in St. John's and other
Newfoundland cities and maybe even selected mainland
cities, especially those with some Newfoundland
population.
Also see my web page
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (Newfoundland music, venues,
festivals, sessions, some old reviews, et sea).
(where I also mention guys of course and I may post
a non-gender-biased version of this post in the future
but this grew out of a post to rec.music.tori-amos
where I mentioned some Newfoundland women singers
and I pretty much copy/pasted it here, with just
a few edits).
David
David Dalton
> Liz Pickard ( http://www.lizband.com ),
> (of Lizband, playing The Ship Oct. 10 in double bill with Coast Guard)
> Also for the http://www.lizband.com site note that the two
> earlier CDs are in the MP3s section and the third CD
> MP3s (including good songs such as Denial and Fishes,
> Nobody's Friend and others) are on the main page
> (just scroll down a bit), and a fourth CD will be out soon,
> and also while Lizband are very good on CD they are even better
> live
Well, I would say that while the CDs are very good, Lizband are
a bit less restrained and more rocking in their live shows,
(especially after midnight) which I don't think have been captured
as well in studio CDs yet as they could be (but the CDs are still
very good) so check ot their live show Friday night (or for those
away, when they come your way on tour after their fourth CD comes
out, I expect).
a D, eh
D. Bennett
Well, I would say that while the CDs are very good, Lizband are
a bit less restrained and more rocking in their live shows,
- Don't you mean especially after Marcel's had a few stiff pints
and/or cold India Beer's?? Heh heh...the guy is my favorite guitarist
in the city, hands down. And I agree, as is the case with most any
band, it's very hard to capture the spirit and direct passion of a
live show on tape. The Lizband are much more aggressive, louder and
looser on stage - that's why I love going to see their live gigs.
DB
csooley
Singers ;)
You listed 44 Female Singers "and others", are there any you don't like? Or
should I say, are there any other female singers in Newfoundland?
BTW I love them too, just making fun of Dave lol
"David Dalton" <dal...@nfld.com> wrote in message
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David Dalton
> Wow Dave, you could have cut that email
Newsgroups post, not e-mail, though I suppose I could
e-mail it to the record companies. :-)
> down to just say you love NL
> Female
> Singers ;)
Well, I like all good singers to some extent, including
guy singers (and some are listed on my web page), but as I
said that post started out as a list of Newfoundland women
singers that I tacked on to a rec.music.tori-amos,alt.music.s-mclachlan
post so for now I didn't add in the guys.
But I wanted to get the names and web pages out there to
alt.music.canada,alt.music.alternative.female for
non-locals to see, since even though newsgroup traffic
is lower than ten years ago maybe still a few record
company types are lurking on there.
> You listed 44 Female Singers "and others", are there any you don't like?
Well, I like some more than others but can't think of one
I don't like, no.
> Or should I say, are there any other female singers in Newfoundland?
I forgot a few such as Jill Porter, Angela Warner, Karla Pilgrim,
Tanya Penney, Petrina Bromley, Shirley Montague (and three
of those I haven't heard yet), Lorraine Conway, and probably
a few more (e.g. a band has been advertised at CBTG's a few
times and I forget the lead singer's name).
> BTW I love them too, just making fun of Dave lol
:-)
Who are your favourites (musically)?
OK, and again I like guy singers too but tend to give
women singers a slight edge. But that doesn't mean
I have the hots for all of them (but maybe I was a
blind lesbian in a past life, though that's a cliche).
Must run, I have a platonic movie date,
David
csooley
I love Jenny's vocal style.
"David Dalton" <dal...@nfld.com> wrote in message
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csooley
could be wrong here let me know if I am), is Dawn Trainor. Excellent
songwriter and singer.
"csooley" <cso...@nospam.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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David Dalton
> Oh and one to look out for, although I don't think she plays live shows (I
> could be wrong here let me know if I am), is Dawn Trainor. Excellent
> songwriter and singer.
Yes, I was actually going to mention her today too, and did hear her
a few times a few years ago at Wom/men Jammin' and elsewhere, but
since she got married she now goes by Dawn Trainor-Thomson . I think
she was best known for winning a competition with a song called
Madeleine, unless I'm wrong. But yes, she is pretty good.
The CBTG/etc band I forgot to mention was The Janet Cull Band who
I haven't heard yet (are they any good?). (Of course if
invited to a gig I would probably go and even more likely
if I was on the guest list if any, and generally when given
a free CD I feel obligated to review it for the net,
and the Lilith Fair boss used to read my writing for sure.)
(What does CBTG stand for?)
Also on the folk scene I could have mentioned that Pamela
Morgan also sometimes still does folk, and the woman who
is in Celtic Connection (what is her name) is not bad
though I haven't heard them much yet, and Mary-Ellen Wright
is good, and others.
But why would anyone cull Janets? Is she a silkie? (Just
kidding, she must get a lot of that, and I'm more into
birth control for seals than culling anyway.)
One good site with mentions of a lot of women (and some men)
artists (generally not hard rocking but maybe some) is
The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music at
http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/
should be of interest since a huge number of
artists, the majority women artists, are reviewed
there, including Sarah, Tara McL, HollyMcN, Dido
and hundreds more, so I will bookmark the site
myself and look at it again later. (It generally
is a bit behind the list, i.e. Dido's latest
CD may not be mentioned in the guide yet but
probably has been on the list.)
This is drawn from posts to the ecto mailing list,
which was orginally
for Happy Rhodes (anyone hear her?) but is now both for
her and for discussion of hundreds of other musical
artists (some similar to her), with the majority being
female artists.
The list can be joined by e-mailing majo...@smoe.org
with body
subscribe ecto
or
subscribe ecto-digest .
A related Usenet newsgroup, alt.music.ecto ,
never did take off though I still crosspost
there from time to time.
But if you want to quickly check out recent posts to
the ecto list, I just discovered it is one-way
gatewayed to a local (I think Norwegian) newsgroup
fa.music.ecto which however most of you might not
have access to through your newsserver but can
access through http://groups.google.com by
searching for the group name. However since it
is only one-way gatewayed if you want to post to
the list you will have to join the list and post
to it by e-mail (but there are e-mail programs with
mailing list threading capability now, or I suppose
a singe-er could join with a fake name and promote
herself and just read posts related to herself if
she wanted).
So anyway I was only on the ecto list briefly in
1994 or 1995 when I was still away in Vancouver and I don't
think I have promoted Newfoundland artists on there much
(but did a bit on the SMcL list FTE which I am also not on anymore)
yet but might join again eventually but will (should) be pretty
busy with academics in the next two months. (Also
it would help to have an e-mail program that will
thread mailing list e-mails based on subject line and
originating time I guess, though without the references
used in newsgroups; otherwise the digests are not bad, or
else filtering loose group messages to a folder, quickly
scanning the subjects for the few of interest, and deleting the
rest.)
But anyway it seems that some local women get more respect
when they are away than when they are here but that may be
OK since we don't want them to get swelled heads (plus e.g.
Shania likes to be unknown in Switzerland where she lives) but on
the other hand it helps to build up a local career some before
launching an away career (since you need the bucks from the
local career to launch the away career), and it is nice to be
able to keep living here of course though Kim and Damhnait
seem to like Toronto, which I found too hot and muggy and maybe
polluted when I was there for three days in May 1987 (I applied to
UofT for a Ph.D. and talked to a prof there then but never paid
my application fee and they still called me at Christmas
of 1987 and tried to woo me, since I had a very prestigious
extrenal scholarship, but I said I was going back to UBC, when my
original intent in 1985 was to do the master's at UBC and
then do the Ph.D. at Cambridge or Australia National University
or MIT or Stanford or some place like that).
But anyway this thing of listing Newfoundland musicians comes
partly out of past listing my favourites for Internet friends
and also from my 1991--1994 period of booking bands, hosting
gigs, hosting open mic/jams, doing sound, some creation of
posters, and some postering for Friday nights at the UBC grad
centre, although of course said volunteer activity was one
contributing factor in my quitting my UBC Ph.D. in fall 1995
(and now I have started a new one at MUN as of last fall).
But I do have a few Vancouver contacts, including Tom Landa
who runs a celtic festival in nightclubs there every late
May, and a few others. But you know, it never hurts to
plug your favourite bands on newsgroups and e-mailing lists and
web page forums since you never know who might be reading,
and as for me, while some away people think I am weird at times
(more online than offline, and more on alt.music.s-mclachlan
than elsewhere online) they may think I have good musical
taste.
Wait I just thought of Van Morrison's Gloria for some
reason (music and inspiration), and then wondered what
country singer Gloria Thistle is up to?
Full moon blessings from this mun fool!
David
David Dalton
> The CBTG/etc band I forgot to mention was The Janet Cull Band
J.C., superstar (to be, maybe; good luck)
I also forgot to mention Cherie Pyne of The Peepholes
who is one of the two vocalists for the band, and
does some lead vocals (though Danny, who is pretty
good too, does more lead vocals) and some co-vocals
and some backup vocals. Cherie (who I once thought
was Sheri) also often does a little backup vocals
for Coast Guard (and may tonight at The Ship) and
also sometimes a bit of backup vocals for Rhiannon
Thomas (Coast Guard singer/songwriter) acoustic gigs
(and I heard will at the LSPU this evening, in
between Persona sets, on at least one song).
So I saw a poster downtown saying welcome to the
Coast Guard conference, I wonder if they know about
the Coast Guard gig at The Ship tonight? :-)
Also Ja-net is a rastafarian mailing list, right?
Ha, I probably will get her mad at me and I haven't
even seen or heard her yet.
DRD
J. Freeman
I just found out myself,
CBTG's stands for: Closest Bar To Gullivers (taxi stand)
Cheers,
Jamie
David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote in message news:<bm7937$odb$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>...
David Dalton
>Some of my favourite Newfoundland female non-folk vocalists are:
>Rhiannon Thomas ( of Coast Guard
>http://www.newmusiccanada.ca/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=7897 )
>[playing The Ship Oct. 10 in double bill with Lizband, +RT solo
>opening for Persona at LSPU same night])
Coast Guard really rocked last night and Rhiannon's new songs
are really good (just kidding, I'm sure they were but I spent
too much time on the computer at the university and got home
late and drifted off for a while and got down there at 1 a.m.
and missed their set so haven't heard those new songs yet, but
they are a good band).
>Liz Pickard ( http://www.lizband.com ),
>(of Lizband, playing The Ship Oct. 10 in double bill with Coast Guard)
Anyway last night I did catch Lizband's set and they rocked,
and at the start of their 1.5 hour set (shorter than the
2 hour set the last time they headlined there [this time it
was a double bill] which they will again Oct. 24) they did about
five new songs which will be on their upcoming fourth CD. The
new songs were fairly good melodic rock tunes showcasing
Liz's voice and with good lyrics, maybe a bit like Blue
Rodeo only maybe slightly more rocking and with great female
vocals. So it seems they are aiming a bit more at more
mainstream radio play this time, though they still do some
pretty hard rocking tunes live, often later in the night.
(I would say that of their three CDs so far the first one,
The Six Songs EP, is the most hard rocking but is rawer
since it was I think mostly recorded off the floor to
a mic. The second CD I've Been Here Again and
third CD devotion contain a few harder rock tunes
and also some milder rock tunes and often the milder
tunes have gotten more airplay in Newfoundland and
Nova Scotia. Anyway MP3s from their first two are
in the MP3s subpage of the web page and MP3s from
the third one are on the main page of that web page,
and interested record companies could probably e-mail
Liz for samples of the new songs.)
I think the fourth CD could be out as early as
the spring of 2004 if they have record company
backing and may take a bit longer if they have
to finance it themselves.
Also Liz said they have a new video for Good Goodbye
which could be played on NTV especially if you ask
for it, and maybe on Going Coastal on MuchMusic
(though their new sound may be headed more towards
the mature stuff of MuchMoreMusic, maybe).
Any Lizband fans reading from outside Newfoundland
(e.g. Halifax)?
And I don't get a cut, I just want them to keep
playing, and that is more likely if they hit it
slightly bigger (like, I need my Lizband fix at least
once a month and if they break up I wouldn't get it).
D.
D. Bennett
Canada...hell, the world even - I really believe that Liz and the guys
are quite happy working in the current niche they have built up since
the early 1990's. They are a pillar of absolute independence on the
East Coast who do things their own way, have a ton of various creative
outlets and have great respect in St. John's and abroad for still
being a band after all these years of bands starting and quickly
breaking up on a frequent basis - Hardship Post instantly comes to
mind, Fur Packed Action, etc...They are slowly building up a great
back catalogue of albums, and I think they want to keep doing this so
that there's a big stable of albums for people to discover years from
now. They enjoy the lo-fi aspect of indie rock, as it basically gives
them freedom to do whatever the heck they want with their music,
videos, plays, films, etc...This is not to say that they'd ever turn
down a record deal or finacial backing, of course, but I do think
they'd continue being a band no matter which route they take. Think
along the lines of a Dog Meat BBQ or even the Bung guys.......
Darryl
dal...@nfld.com (David Dalton) wrote in message news:<UTYhb.7282$f7.411203@localhost>...
David Dalton
> Hi David,
> I just found out myself,
> CBTG's stands for: Closest Bar To Gullivers (taxi stand)
Oh, I was thinking more along the lines of
Conception Bay Terrorist Group :-)
I'll see if I can come up with some other
funnier ones but not today.
Thanks,
DD