BARKK dog food
CJ
in...@beaglepaws.com
> anyone here use it? what do you think?
I personally use it for one of my dogs that has bad skin allergies, it
has made a world of difference
Sheila
www.beaglepaws.com
Jason
Trying to switch her from barkk to something else was one of the most
difficult and costly tasks we've had yet.
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Devils Advocate
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> Our dog loved it but she broke out in sores so we had to take her off of
> it. Trying to switch her from barkk to something else was one of the most
> difficult and costly tasks we've had yet.
>
Have you tried the dog food in the natural value section at dominion.
I feed my dog very limited dog food, but when I do, it the dog food in the
natural value section.
Gerry
Golden Lab and it's her Baby,and she wouldn't buy her food anywhere else
except the place on the Ruby Line, they also have Kennels there, which the
City was using for a while.Can't remember the name off hand,but they are
supposed to have the best food,and probably more expensive.
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Devils Advocate
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> I'm not into buying Dog food anymore,but I know this girl who does.She has
> a Golden Lab and it's her Baby,and she wouldn't buy her food anywhere else
> except the place on the Ruby Line, they also have Kennels there, which the
> City was using for a while.Can't remember the name off hand,but they are
> supposed to have the best food,and probably more expensive.
Most likely commercial food, hence not recommended for neither canine nor
beast. I am just speculating..........most have no idea what is healthy to
feed a dog.
Rob
it has made a big difference. His coat has improved a lot and he's
eating much better. We had tried several foods before this one and
this is by far his favourite. He also seems to absorb more of the food
as there is much less "mess" in the yard to clean up :)
On Apr 30, 7:07 pm, "Devils Advocate" <devilsadvocat...@hotmail.com>
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> "Gerry" <g.a.saund...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
Jason
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We started feeding our dog fresh chicken, rice, and carrots. It's not
something she gets every day but a coup;e times a week.
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
> Our dog loved it but she broke out in sores so we had to take her off of it.
> Trying to switch her from barkk to something else was one of the most
> difficult and costly tasks we've had yet.
>
>
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I experienced the same reaction but on a more drastic level. Is your
dog o.k??? You can contact me to hear my story about this....
Jason
> I experienced the same reaction but on a more drastic level. Is your
> dog o.k??? You can contact me to hear my story about this....
We fed this to our dog last September. At first I thought the sores might
have been related to something else but when the stopped feeding her barrk,
the soers went away.
Someone told us that barrk uses chicken and that some dogs are allergic to
it, but I feed my dog chicken weekly and the sores have not returned.
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
> <rhythmicgermanshephe...@hotmail.com> wrote
My dog developed open sores, eye infections, lost half its coat, lost
half its weight, chronic urination and eventually could barely walk.
He became dehydrated and his eyes were sunk back into his head. It
took more then 6 months on a different diet, hydra baths, pedialyte
and hand feeding to get him back. I didn't want to continue what I was
told was "detox" for fear he may die. He came very close. Oh and he
was only 1.5 yrs old.
Devils Advocate
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Regarding the disparaging remarks made by “rhythmicgermansheppard”:
We stand by our product in both philosophy and quality. We are deeply
concerned that this person may be making unfounded claims against our
product for personal reasons.
The suggestions “rhythmicgermansheppard” made regarding food, animal,
cause, and effect, have not only NOT been proven, but not even
investigated. She offers unfounded anecdotal examples without
substantiation. Our CEO personally saw the dog in question and found
that the dog was most likely exhibiting only classic signs of detox
and nothing alarming.
We welcome any proof of what “rhythmicgermansheppard” claims. The
veterinarian’s report would be the best report to post here- a report
we doubt “rhythmicgermansheppard has.
We cannot stand by idly and allow a malicious attack upon our brand.
We feel the remarks are defamatory and are gathering evidence of this
behavior.
We welcome any help and ask that anyone willing forward emails
received by this person.
Thank you for your help.
Shannon Quick
It only takes 1 dog to suffer for me not to buy your product.
It is for that reason, I'll would not recommend Barrk!
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
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I can only say what happened to me, I have witnesses who have seen my
dog before going on the diet and after. The symptoms I have said
happened after I put my dog on this diet. He was fine before, actually
the weekend before I changed his diet he won 3 blue ribbons and
obtained his championship. About a week after he started to "detox"
according to the company. I kept him on it because I was told he was
cleansing his system. The owner of the company visited my dog when he
started losing his coat(in the beginning) But never came back to see
him after. I told a friend of mine about my dog on Facebook, somehow
the company found out and sent me an e-mail telling me they would no
longer sell me the food and offered no sympathy even when I told them
my dog looked to be dying. It took well over 6 months for my dog to
start getting better after he came off the diet. Now...because I have
said this and told my story...they are threatening me with
lawsuits...they say I am slandering them. Sooooo I guess to anyone who
is experiencing problems you better keep quiet;) All I am saying is,
he was fine before he went on it, and eventually fine after he came
off it. I offer no remedies or solutions, never have. There is much,
much more to this story...Oh and its Rhythmic German Shepherds,
spelled correctly.
Devils Advocate
I can only say what happened to me, I have witnesses who have seen my
dog before going on the diet and after. The symptoms I have said
happened after I put my dog on this diet. He was fine before, actually
the weekend before I changed his diet he won 3 blue ribbons and
obtained his championship. About a week after he started to "detox"
according to the company. I kept him on it because I was told he was
cleansing his system. The owner of the company visited my dog when he
started losing his coat(in the beginning) But never came back to see
him after. I told a friend of mine about my dog on Facebook, somehow
the company found out and sent me an e-mail telling me they would no
longer sell me the food and offered no sympathy even when I told them
my dog looked to be dying. It took well over 6 months for my dog to
start getting better after he came off the diet. Now...because I have
said this and told my story...they are threatening me with
lawsuits...they say I am slandering them. Sooooo I guess to anyone who
is experiencing problems you better keep quiet;) All I am saying is,
he was fine before he went on it, and eventually fine after he came
off it. I offer no remedies or solutions, never have. There is much,
much more to this story...Oh and its Rhythmic German Shepherds,
spelled correctly.
I do believe you, and feel you are very sincere in your story. While one may
not medically prove it was the dog food, we call only logically assume if
your dog was perfectly fine prior to eating the BARRK, then all of a sudden
took a turn for the worse while consuming it, then later fine again when
taken off it. Then obviously it was the dog food. While I admit that yours
could be an isolated case, and parhaps there are thousands of dogs who can
tolerate this dog food. However I will be not trying this dog for because of
the ordeal your dog when through.
BTW, I love german sheppards, hence have a weak spot when it comes to them
becoming ill.
Fact vs Emotion
wrote:
Interesting thing happened that I wanted to share with everyone on
this group. I joined a facebook group created by "Devils Advocate"
called "My dog almost diet while on a RAW dog food diet". I did not
post anything offensive in any way, rather posted some things that
questioned the accusations and assumptions that were being made by
Devils Advocate and another group member. It appears I am now
blocked from that group and blocked from being able to send her any
messages on facebook. I guess the information I posted struck a chord
with. Understandably so. I respect the information that was posted by
Lori and other group members, however it is important that if you are
going to post information on a public group board or forum that you
post information not from emotion or assumption, but from fact. This
is the gist of the information that I had posted in response to the
posts by those individuals.
Lori and Rhonda: sorry to learn the news about your dogs. It's tragic
when we have a pet that's ill, or lose a pet that's near and dear to
our hearts. As pet owners, our dogs are our lives and considered
family members, and most people consider them to be their babies -
that's how it is in my home. I would do anything for my dogs. Ellen
Degeneres put it nicely "My pet policy is to love (our pets) and give
them as much respect as you would give any living thing and treat them
kindly. They're innocent little souls that are filled with
unconditional love. And we should give them the same"
I am concerned with the "assumptions" and accusations that have been
made regarding the raw diet for animals. Sharing from my experience,
I have been feeding my dogs raw since they've been puppies and I've
not had any issues. I know I'm feeding my babies the best food I can
possibly provide for them. I put a lot of time and energy into
researching and educating myself on the raw diet to ensure that I was
confident that a raw diet would provide a complete and balanced diet
for my dog breed. I am also very fortunate to have a very
knowledgeable Vet with a "holistic" practice: open-minded to nutrition
and genuinely concerned with the well being of my animals. have a Vet
whom I trust to advise what is right for my animals, and does not just
reiterate or preach the information that was pumped from Vet school.
In fact, are you aware that most Vets receive very little to NO formal
education on diet and pet nutrition, and that the education that most
Vets receive was through the commercial dog food company reps? It’s a
fact. My Vet admitted this, and I respect her utmost for admitting
this. It would be interesting for you both to go back and ask your
respective Vets who advised your pets nutrition, or advised against
any type of diet, how many hours of formal pet nutrition did he/she
take in Vet school, and whether they have taken or take FREE pet food
from pet food companies/reps and then in turn sell those products at
their clinic. I am sure you will be very surprised, if not shocked as
I was, at how FEW hours Vets get in formal nutrition studies and how
many of them take free pet food or enjoy incentives for the volume of
food they sell from those companies.
I will leave the following thoughts with Lori and Rhonda, and with
anyone who joins this group and/or reads the information posted this
group, and Lori's facebook group.
1. Educate yourself on the best type of diet for your dog breed;
don’t just take nutritional advise and diet recommendations from your
Vet simply because of their qualifications. Don’t be afraid to
challenge your Vet and ask about their formal nutrition training. You
have a right to know if they are indeed trained in pet nutrition, or
simply pumping out what the pet food companies are telling them.
Perhaps there are several incentives tied to that Vet or their clinic
for the amount of food they sell – it does indeed happen, just as it
does with Medical Doctors/Family Physicians/Pharmacists – the medical
reps educate them on what drugs to prescribe and administer. It’s up
to you whether you choose to believe it, but fact is fact. You are
correct in that the makers of most pet raw feed diets are likely not
Vets. I will encourage you to watch and read up on CBC's DOC ZONE
documentary that has aired recently over the last few months called
"PET FOOD: A DOG'S BREAKFAST" http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/dogsbreakfast.html
2. Be careful what you preach. Do you have fact or actual proof from
an official autopsy from your Vet that the raw diet you were feeding
your animals caused illness or death? If the answer is no, I would
assume this is why the company you referred to had threatened lawsuit.
That behaviour is slander and damaging, not only to the company, but
to your own creditability.
3. Do you know your pet’s current and past medical conditions and
pedigree – are you fully aware and informed? Was there a predisposed
condition that you may not have been aware of, or could your pet have
developed an illness that resulted irrelevant of their diet? If
you’re not 100% sure, go back to point #2.
4. Separate fact from emotion. I understand why you are upset,
confused and even angry about the loss of your pet and/or illness. It
is important that you educate yourself on the information available on
the raw diet, including pros and cons, and the same for commercial
food. If you have been feeding your dog a commercial diet for a long
time, and then suddenly switch to a raw diet, you must expect some
detox. It’s a natural course that will occur as your pet is ridding
its body from the harmful chemicals from the commercial food, however
the raw diet must be appropriately introduced and your pet must be
monitored for detox side affects. What were the course of actions you
took to introduce your dogs to raw diet, and those you took if you
switched them back to commercial from raw?
My post on that facebook group was not argumental or intended in that
way. There are some great links that I will leave with you folks that
will hopefully help you gain a better understanding of the raw diet.
If anything, you might learn something.
Raw Learning: http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html
Myths About Raw Feeding: http://rawfed.com/myths
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
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In response to your posts. You posted 9 lengthy arguments. You asked
questions that could not be answered due to lawsuits pending. When I
checked your profile, I found out that you just created one, as you
did just now, to hide your true identity. I beleive you work for or
own or sell raw pet food and I beleive you are a person related to the
lawsuit. Thanks for continuing to post, as you are still drawing
attention to the subject. Anyone wanting join this group can as it is
open. PLEASE ANYONE EXPERIENCING PROBLEMS ON ANY OF THE MANY TYPES OF
RAW FOOD DIET, DO NOT BE AFFRAID TO TALK, SPEAK OUT FOR OUR PETS!!!
YOU CANNOT BE SUED FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCES!!!! try to keep the
name of the company out of these types of public forums, but you can e-
mail me if you wish. As you can see I am being bullied with threats of
lawsuits (I guess someones scared)
Actually I do know my breed. I studied detox effects, I guess its easy
to make assumtions when you did not see the dog. My dog was only a
year and a half. I Breed and show German Shepherds, I have lengthy
pedigrees and as any good breeder does, I have studied them. I have
owned German Shepherds for over 20 years (I know my breed)
TO EVERONE, SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCES.
this is also a helpful link;)
http://www.secondchanceranch.org/rawadvocate.htm
Devils Advocate
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3. Do you know your pet’s current and past medical conditions and
pedigree – are you fully aware and informed? Was there a predisposed
condition that you may not have been aware of, or could your pet have
developed an illness that resulted irrelevant of their diet? If
you’re not 100% sure, go back to point #2.
Often times it is near impossible to proved whether a certain product caused
the illness or whether it was some other medical condition. I flash back to
my grandmother once again who was near death caused my a new drug she was
given............she went from a very conversation alert perfect woman to
near vegetable not knowing anyone even myself who lived with her for years.
Once the drug asked the doctors to stop the new drug, she came right around
the following day and was back to her perky self. At that time, she was
diagnosed with serious disease and not given much time to live, hence
something serious would have happened due to the drug, I'm confident doctors
would have blamed it on some kinds of medical condition they incorrectly
diagnosed, and not the drug. BTW, that was about 7 years ago. Another
example, my owned a dog who was fed pedigree dog food for the full duration
of his life (other than the odd bit of table food), at the age of 10 she
died from cancer. My sister had a dog who was fed pedigree, died of cancer
at age 11. Was at a activity the other night and a friend of mine had a Lab
who died of cancer at age 10...........was also fed pedigree. So I've come
to the logically conclusion that there are cancer causing agents in pedigree
*commercial* dog food. Can any of use proof that our dogs died for prolonged
use of Pedigree-absolutely not!!!
I now feed my new dog naturally with no commercial dog food whatsoever. I'll
let you know 10-18 years how she makes out.
Fact vs Emotion
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> "Fact vs Emotion" <katiehud...@live.com> wrote in messagenews:19f40175-3af6-4d2d...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Lori, yes by all means share your experiences, but certainly don't
make accusations or assumptions that are not based on fact. Did you
have tests performed by your Vet to verify that your dogs illness was
caused by the raw diet consumption? If not, and you are making
accusations against this particular type of dog food and company; you
are simply harming your own credibility not only as an individual, but
as a breeder.
I do want to draw attention to this subject b/c it is quite
serious. Simply put, you are acting out of emotion and not out of
science or fact. Everyone is entitled to share their experiences with
the raw feed, absolutely. I guess those who question or offer
differing opinions from that of your facebook group and not welcome.
The questions I asked were open ended and not meant to be answered,
rather they were to make you think before you act. Perhaps not every
dog will respond well to a raw feed diet, and perhaps it requires more
education on the behalf of the pet owner to fully understand the raw
feed diet before introducing or experimenting with it. Don't attack
others if you don't fully understand or educate yourself first.
I do not work for the raw food company, or sell the raw food you're
referring to. I am simply an outsider with an open mind and felt I
should express my opinion on this matter. You are making a lot of
accusations which are not based on science or fact. If you choose to
share your experiences that's great, but don't assume and accuse.
Perhaps you are the person that is scared, as you experienced a
traumatic event through your dog getting ill. But if you don't have
proof that it was this particular raw feed diet that caused the
sickness you are speaking out of context. Fact vs. Emotion.
I wish your beloved dog well and I'm happy to hear that she's doing
well now and hope that she will for the next 10-18 years or more. We
all wish that as pet owners.
God speed.
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
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Again I have made no accusations! I already have credibility as a
person and as a breeder. This is my experience on a raw dog food diet.
Someone elses may be different, thats fine with me. I feel your
attacking me and my credibility odd for a self proclaimed open minded
individual. By the way, what do you feed your dogs???
clle...@yahoo.com
> On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "CJ" <cherylba...@warp.nfld.net> wrote:
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> > anyone here use it? what do you think?
>
> has made a world of difference
>
> Sheilawww.beaglepaws.com
My dog has been on BARKK food since October and the food and the
makers of the food have been nothing but WONDERFUL for me and my dog.
My dog was scratching himself to peices with something we thought was
allergies. BARKK food offered to do an elimination diet to find out
what he was allergic to. They always went out of their way to help me
and my dog as much as possible.
They found a specific diet for my dog that really helped with his
scratching. I just had him to the vet for a check up and the vet told
me he was in PERFECT health. His fur is so shiny and soft, he is happy
and energetic. I couldn't ask for better from BARKK food. If I always
have access to this food my dog will be eating nothing else but
BARKK! He is a very picky dog and doesn't like commercial dog food, I
had such a hard time getting him to eat. Now we have no problems, he
waits by the microwave for it to defrost and then he eats it right up!
I know I'm feeding my dog the best food possible for him to live a
long and healthy life and nothing matters more to me.
I highly recommend this food to everyone who wants best for their
furry little friends.
ConcernforK9
> Our dog loved it but she broke out in sores so we had to take her off of it.
> difficult and costly tasks we've had yet.
>
> "CJ" <cherylba...@warp.nfld.net> wrote in message
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I too experienced the same reaction.I stuck with it thinking it was
detox.It got worse so I took her off and she got better.
erinmur...@gmail.com
My four dogs have been on it for almost a year now. Two of them went
on it at 5mths of age, another is 4ish and one is 16. I wouldn't feed
them anything else. I think there are to many additives and not enough
protein in dry and canned dog food. My husky was constantly breaking
out in sores before Barkk and now her skin and coat are beautiful. She
and my 16 year old terrier barely went through any detox, and the
terrier is very sensitive to foods.(You can't look at him the wrong
way or he will throw up) The two pups had some diarrhea and weren't
themselves for a couple of days, but it wasn't too concerning. they
are all very healthy, very active dogs. Everyone asks what i feed the
pups becuase their coats are so shiny.
rob....@hotmail.com
OK, I'm reading all these comments on raw dog food. Have to say I'm
very surprised. I started my dogs on a raw diet about two months
before I found out about BARKK foods. I was pleased to find that I
could give my dogs the same quality product without having to spend
hours in the kitchen making it at home.
Before starting the new diet, I did a lot of research. I'm surprised
more people don't. I found that it was common for dogs to go through a
detox stage. I talked to a few people who had gone through it with
their dogs. They told me it was a little disturbing to see their dogs
loose so much fur. However, when the toxins finally left the dogs,
their coats came back healthier than ever.
Now I'm sure like humans, not all diets agree with all dogs. When on
dry dog food, my 7-year old male constantly had a problem with loose
bowls and vomitting and he always had to be coaxed to eat the food.
Since switching to the raw diet, I'm pleased to say he is back to
normal (no loose bowls or vomitting). He has a beautiful coat, his
eyes are much brighter and he has a new found energy. My only
complaint is his wimpering while getting his food ready. He actually
can't wait to be fed.
I personally think BARKK foods far surpasses any product that can be
bought in local stores. It disappoints me to see an individual
discredit the product because of a lack of research or due to a pet
that may have had allergies to the product. My advice to anyone
considering the raw diet is to do some research and introduce it into
the diet very slowly. It's suggested that even abruptly switching from
one brand name food to another is hard on a dog's system. Therefore,
going from cooked to raw is a major adjustment, but one that is well
worth it! I would never put my dogs on any other food !
Rob
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
> On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "CJ" <cherylba...@warp.nfld.net> wrote:
>
> > anyone here use it? what do you think?
>
> very surprised. I started my dogs on a raw diet about two months
> before I found out about BARKK foods. I was pleased to find that I
> could give my dogs the same quality product without having to spend
> hours in the kitchen making it at home.
> Before starting the new diet, I did a lot of research. I'm surprised
> more people don't. I found that it was common for dogs to go through a
> detox stage. I talked to a few people who had gone through it with
> their dogs. They told me it was a little disturbing to see their dogs
> loose so much fur. However, when the toxins finally left the dogs,
> their coats came back healthier than ever.
> Now I'm sure like humans, not all diets agree with all dogs. When on
> bowls and vomitting and he always had to be coaxed to eat the food.
> Since switching to the raw diet, I'm pleased to say he is back to
> normal (no loose bowls or vomitting). He has a beautiful coat, his
> eyes are much brighter and he has a new found energy. My only
> complaint is his wimpering while getting his food ready. He actually
> can't wait to be fed.
> I personally think BARKK foods far surpasses any product that can be
> bought in local stores. It disappoints me to see an individual
> discredit the product because of a lack of research or due to a pet
> that may have had allergies to the product. My advice to anyone
> considering the raw diet is to do some research and introduce it into
> the diet very slowly. It's suggested that even abruptly switching from
> going from cooked to raw is a major adjustment, but one that is well
> worth it! I would never put my dogs on any other food !
>
> Rob
Its called freedom of speech ! This is my experience. And I guess
others. So your dog did well on raw, good for you. You are lucky...
ConcernforK9
> anyone here use it? what do you think?
I do know about raw diet and still think its the best.I too fed raw
before using an already prepared one and was feeding it for a long
time knowing about detox but that wasn't the problem. I don't feel
that anyone is blaming,people are just replying about having the same
symptoms.Strange thats all.Such a touchy subject, such defensiveness.
allsain...@gmail.com
I think the key is research. whether it by dry dog food or raw, know
what you are feeding your animals. If you choose raw, you should know
that there are so many different things that can happen during detox,
but your dogs body is going to do whatever it can to get rid of the
old. One of my dogs had yellow goo discharging from his eyes after
switching to BARKK, but the eyes are just one of the outlets that they
get rid of the bad stuff. The discharge went away after a couple of
days.
I found that introducing my dogs to human food as treats and some
meals helped them adjust. they got carrots and apples, chicken hearts,
rice, oatmeal, small amounts of chicken and fish (boiled with the
rice), natural yogurt (no gelatin or sweeteners), before i put them on
barkk, so it wasn't such a shock to their systems.
this is a good article on what you can and can't feed you
dogs...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24544541/
Erin
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
> On May 18, 1:25 pm, rob.ke...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "CJ" <cherylba...@warp.nfld.net> wrote:
>
> > > anyone here use it? what do you think?
>
> > very surprised. I started my dogs on a raw diet about two months
> > before I found out about BARKK foods. I was pleased to find that I
> > could give my dogs the same quality product without having to spend
> > hours in the kitchen making it at home.
> > Before starting the new diet, I did a lot of research. I'm surprised
> > more people don't. I found that it was common for dogs to go through a
> > detox stage. I talked to a few people who had gone through it with
> > their dogs. They told me it was a little disturbing to see their dogs
> > loose so much fur. However, when the toxins finally left the dogs,
> > their coats came back healthier than ever.
> > Now I'm sure like humans, not all diets agree with all dogs. When on
> > bowls and vomitting and he always had to be coaxed to eat the food.
> > Since switching to the raw diet, I'm pleased to say he is back to
> > normal (no loose bowls or vomitting). He has a beautiful coat, his
> > eyes are much brighter and he has a new found energy. My only
> > complaint is his wimpering while getting his food ready. He actually
> > can't wait to be fed.
> > I personally think BARKK foods far surpasses any product that can be
> > bought in local stores. It disappoints me to see an individual
> > discredit the product because of a lack of research or due to a pet
> > that may have had allergies to the product. My advice to anyone
> > considering the raw diet is to do some research and introduce it into
> > the diet very slowly. It's suggested that even abruptly switching from
> > going from cooked to raw is a major adjustment, but one that is well
> > worth it! I would never put my dogs on any other food !
>
> > Rob
>
> what you are feeding your animals. If you choose raw, you should know
> that there are so many different things that can happen during detox,
> but your dogs body is going to do whatever it can to get rid of the
> old. One of my dogs had yellow goo discharging from his eyes after
> switching to BARKK, but the eyes are just one of the outlets that they
> get rid of the bad stuff. The discharge went away after a couple of
> days.
>
> I found that introducing my dogs to human food as treats and some
> meals helped them adjust. they got carrots and apples, chicken hearts,
> rice, oatmeal, small amounts of chicken and fish (boiled with the
> rice), natural yogurt (no gelatin or sweeteners), before i put them on
> barkk, so it wasn't such a shock to their systems.
>
> this is a good article on what you can and can't feed you
> dogs...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24544541/
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Make sure to check out this link as well;) Make sure to research!
http://www.secondchanceranch.org/rawindex.htm
http://www.secondchanceranch.org/rawadvocate.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FKA/is_6_67/ai_n13788104
http://canadianveterinarians.net/ShowText.aspx?ResourceID=554
Been Raw Feeding Twenty Years
It's important to expand your research and not just read one or two
sites that give a certain opinion.
Here is a link to a response from Dr. Billinghurst "A VET" who
developed the BARF diet to the website mentioned earlier
www.bestfrisbeedogs.com/mybluedog.html it is worth reading...it
actually makes the comments made seem rather ridiculous.
I have looked at the following research which was posted on a forum
was a perfect example of how much we need to research more when
finding information on a website or hearing it from someone. This was
not my info I copied it from a German shepherd forum.. Thanks Sean
for
doing this research. http://www.germanshepherdsuk.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37474&sid=cb...
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Re. the sources on the Second Chance Ranch site, I checked into the
background of those sources against a raw diet.
Robert Vansaun makes and markets his own commercial diet. He also
argues that wolves cannot thrive on a raw diet, and instead require
all food to be cooked.
Jim Lincoln's research (Washington State) was sponsored by a major
pet
food company, as is Julie Churchill.
Jennifer W. Sheldon is not a nutritionalist - she has written a book
on wolves.
Ann Martin is criticized for basing her theories on BARF diets on
studies that didn't give a proper BARF diet. An article about Ann
Martin was a link also provided in a previous post.
Parkvets, of an anti-BARF link, make a lot of money promoting and
selling a major pet food company’s product.
Most vets, if you question them, will admit that they get all their
pet-nutrition info from one of the pet-food companies. Look around
their surgery and you will spot the major pet companie’s guide to
pet
nutrition. That's like trusting the soft drink guide to healthy
drinks
or the Fast food guide to nutritious diets.
Most of the negative comments surround internal injuries from 'raw'
bones (Dr. Billinghurst has never experienced this in his decades of
veterinary practice; all the bones that caused problems were cooked),
and the level of bacteria (according to the sources, this was only a
problem for animals whose immune system was already compromised).
************
The last site refers to is a site which states as Background
***Feeding pets raw meat based diets is a recent trend. *** OK… what
did dogs do before we started making kibble or cooked for them??? Did
they fire up a grill and barbecue their meat… did they maybe process
hooves and beaks and make kibble…or did they have stoves of some kind
to make their own food??
I think not! About 60-70 years of eating kibble did not change
evolution…sorry…
Jason
in message
> A little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing.
You appear to be proof of that.
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
<beenrawfeedingfor20ye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:59 pm, "Jason" <y...@wish.org> wrote:
>
> > "Been Raw Feeding Twenty Years" <beenrawfeedingfor20ye...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > in message
>
> > > A little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing.
>
> > You appear to be proof of that.
>
> 83, 86 in March, 96 in April and as of right now 83 by May 20th you
> must have a LOT of knowledge about a LOT of things...Certainly you are
> an expert on Raw feeding ... Maybe we should all stop at what you may
> have in mind for feeding our pets...No need to question anyone or do
> research...Let's all listen to what Jason the expert has to say LOL...
not everyone who comments on RAW food are canine nutritionalists or
vets, but maybe we need to investigate the credentials of the people
who make our dogs food a little closer. I put up those links just to
show that there are two sides. Did you read the vet findings? Are they
wrong as well? I will be speaking with my vet this week and will ask
him where he got his canine nutritional knowledge from and what he
thinks of a raw diet. I will be sure to post and let you know. And as
for the statement about wolves having a barbeque, I think I may have
heard that somewhere before. Wolves never ate genetically modified
chickens being fed a diet of antibiotics or beef given growth hormones
and steroids. Their food did not come from over crowded farms and
slaughter houses. Nor did they have to defrost it in a microwave.
Jason
better.
Jason
"Been Raw Feeding Twenty Years" <beenrawfeedi...@hotmail.com> wrote
in message
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On May 20, 9:59 pm, "Jason" <y...@wish.org> wrote:
> "Been Raw Feeding Twenty Years" <beenrawfeedingfor20ye...@hotmail.com>
> wrote
> in message
>
> > A little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing.
>
> You appear to be proof of that.
LOL According to your profile you have 83 postings in Jan, in Feb
erinmur...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
i read these articles before i put my dogs on raw food, but i also
read many more that were pro-raw. Many veternarians recieve little
training in pet nutrition
they just recommend what the industry recommends, becuase thats what
they are told. I also know some vets who give their dogs raw food. my
veternarian was pleased
that i had chosen raw, especially when she saw what a difference it
made for my husky
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> i read these articles before i put my dogs on raw food, but i also
> read many more that were pro-raw. Many veternarians recieve little
> training in pet nutrition
> they just recommend what the industry recommends, becuase thats what
> they are told. I also know some vets who give their dogs raw food. my
> veternarian was pleased
> that i had chosen raw, especially when she saw what a difference it
>
> - Show quoted text -
it's important to read BOTH positive and negative information. Way out
the risks, and decide if it is worth it. Like I said I will post what
my vet says about his knowledge in canine nutrition and about raw dog
food.
I find it interesting that we went from commercial dog food straight
to a raw diet without even considering cooked meat home made...
Jason
news:467015d6-389a-493a...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> *Jason, I'm sorry... I had removed my post within minutes because I
> would not want to get into a battle with you. You are one of many who
> sees signs of the animal getting rid of toxins and gets scared. You
> obviously care for your pet and seeing him/her go through detox is
> difficult.
At the time we were told that the sores on her stomach looked like an
allergic reaction and we stopped feeding it to her. I was informed of the
detox phase but no one told me how long to expect it to last. We started
feeding her barrk in early September for about a month and then switched
back to store bough brands.
Personally, I'd love to have her on the barrk food because she was a
completly different dog. Seemed happier and more energenic.
Fact vs Emotion
diet for our pets, but the key for us as pet owners is to educate
yourself first, including fully understand the raw diet and the
possible detox phases that may occur, especially for those who are
switching from processed commercial brands to a raw diet.
Every dog/cat will have a different experience and the experience I've
had with my dogs, and that my friends and family have had with their
pets, has been little to no detox effects, as compared to some of
those described here. Then again, every individual will have their
own defined level of what is tolerable to them, vs. what is tolerable
for their pet. Some get scared and are not willing or able to allow
their pet to progress through the detox, perhaps they do not fully
understand what is happening and go into a reactive mode and decide to
move away from raw. We are all different, it's not a matter of a right
or wrong decision as we do what we think is best since our animals.
I have a friend who has two dogs, the exact same breed but each dog
responded differently to the raw diet. She worked closely with her raw
food provider to experiment with the diet ingredients for the dog that
experienced a mild reaction/detox to the raw feed. They simply had to
modify some of the ingredients specifically to what that dog required
(or was lacking) in it's diet. Now the dog is the most happy and
healthy it's ever been, and my friend feels her dog has found her
"inner puppy" again. It just takes some patience and trust that the
raw provider, such as BARKK, has the best intentions for the animals,
and are not motivated otherwise.
rhythmicger...@hotmail.com
But if it was detox then how could you modify the diet??? Was it a
reaction or detox?