CA Roadrunner vs Newtel Warp
J Green
to get them then from other users. I have Roadrunner.. I am pretty pleased
with it so far. I say pretty pleased because I was expecting a bit better
performance than what I ended up with. On avg. i get about 30-70k downstream
and 50-150k upstream..I also have the old Zenith modem and a static IP...
which is good. But, if i can get better performance from ADSL i would
consider switching.. OK can someone answer these questions:
Why cant i do ping or traceroute?
Does CA have a cap on the downstream?
Why are all my friends on the mainland gettin' 200k + downstream?
Why is CA using 4mb/sec modems when Zenith sells cheaper 2mb/sec modems?
What avg speeds could i expect from NewTel's Warp?
Thanx alot,
J
jgr...@roadrunner.nf.net
Bill W
"warp" side of things. :-)
Please post answers in this group.
BILL
J Green <jgr...@roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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resignation
>
> Why cant i do ping or traceroute?
Cable atlantic block all ICMP ..icmp packets are what you use to ping
someone. traceroute generally uses icmp packets to see how long it takes to
send/recieve a packet to a server. ..thou, i can traceroute with the new
modem (surfboard) ..but my friends cannot with the good ole zenith modem
>
> Does CA have a cap on the downstream?
yes and no. techincally, every line has its limit, and seeing were on a
4Mbps connection, the max is 500KB/s (at the node) ..i have NEVER heard of
anyone getting over 200KB/s, im guessing the most is around 150KB/s ..ive
personally seen upto 140K/s on 3 downloads at once
>
> Why are all my friends on the mainland gettin' 200k + downstream?
every other cablenetwork on the mainland (@home/wave) is all on a 10Mbit
network. ..thus, theirs a much faster max download (this obviously depends
on the speed of the source, of course)
>
> Why is CA using 4mb/sec modems when Zenith sells cheaper 2mb/sec modems?
that can only be answered by someone at CA ..good luck finding someone who
will answer it :)
>
> What avg speeds could i expect from NewTel's Warp?
their #3 package, which most ppl id imagine would get boasts a 128KB down /
64KB up a second (bytes, not bits) ..if they can deviler those speeds on a
consistant basis its definitly a better service than CA is currently
offering to new customers.
Newtel is offering their service to the more "experienced" user (im not
trying to offened anyone by saying that) ..if your someone who needs all
open ports, and all the internet protocols (icmp, etc) then id advise you
switch over to adsl. if your quite contented by surfing the net with your
family or whatnaught, cable is just fine for that.
also, newtel allows you to do whatever you like with your line, except
re-selling the bandwidth or hosting illegal ftps/etc. ..so if you want to
put up a perm quake3 server, or host a real audio station, your welcome to
do so seeing that cable is shared bandwidth, and adsl is not. but of
course, they wont give you any technical support for those things.
i myself am not unhappy with cable, but i will be going to ADSL the second
it is available down in the east end of town ..unfortunatly newtel are
unable to give me an estimate on when the resources will exist for me to get
it
-glen
Peter L. Whittle
D Reid
to find out
Peter L. Whittle <pwhi...@roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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CR
> Why cant i do ping or traceroute?
Someone got really port-blocking happy and really paranoid about what
might happen if and expert started exploiting various bugs and or
features of IMCP services.
> Does CA have a cap on the downstream?
I don't know of any... You should technically to my knowledge be able to
exploit the entire bandwidth of the cable modem, up to the standard
limits of if you are connected to a site which is slower, you will
connect and receive files at the slower rate, obviously. Right.
> Why is CA using 4mb/sec modems when Zenith sells cheaper 2mb/sec modems?
If you invested a large amount of money in something, would you just
throw it all out the window? Of course not, it's not ecenomical... PLUS,
there's the completely obvious answer that all of us want FASTER speeds,
not slower speeds...
That's all...
CR
James Wadden
speed that I've got is 300K/sec, and that is from a local T1 which is just
around the corner from me, but as soon as ADSL is available in my area I am
switching for sure, CA can take there modem and shove it up there A-- for
all I care.
--
James Wadden Jr.
Graphics Workshop / Black Rose Tattoo Studio
St. John's, NF
jwa...@roadrunner.nf.net
jag...@roadrunner.nf.net
http://surfer.firstcity.net/~94jwadde
http://www.booth.k12.nf.ca/~7jwadden
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The King
D Reid <squ...@spamfree.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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> Go to http://www.nf.sympaticowarp.ca/availability.asp and put in your tele
#
> to find out
>
> Peter L. Whittle <pwhi...@roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:37EF3FE6...@roadrunner.nf.net...
> > Is WARP available in the west end..ie. Alexander street?
> >
> > resignation wrote:
> >
> > > these are my experiences and to the best of my knowledge
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Why cant i do ping or traceroute?
> > >
> > > Cable atlantic block all ICMP ..icmp packets are what you use to ping
> > > someone. traceroute generally uses icmp packets to see how long it
> takes to
> > > send/recieve a packet to a server. ..thou, i can traceroute with the
> new
> > > modem (surfboard) ..but my friends cannot with the good ole zenith
> modem
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Does CA have a cap on the downstream?
> > >
> > > yes and no. techincally, every line has its limit, and seeing were on
a
> > > 4Mbps connection, the max is 500KB/s (at the node) ..i have NEVER
heard
> of
> > > anyone getting over 200KB/s, im guessing the most is around 150KB/s
> ..ive
> > > personally seen upto 140K/s on 3 downloads at once
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Why are all my friends on the mainland gettin' 200k + downstream?
> > >
> > > every other cablenetwork on the mainland (@home/wave) is all on a
10Mbit
> > > network. ..thus, theirs a much faster max download (this obviously
> depends
> > > on the speed of the source, of course)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Why is CA using 4mb/sec modems when Zenith sells cheaper 2mb/sec
> modems?
> > >
J Green
J
Colin Stuckless
>
> I have the ol' modem also, I been on cable for a year now, and the highest
> speed that I've got is 300K/sec, and that is from a local T1 which is just
> around the corner from me, but as soon as ADSL is available in my area I am
> switching for sure, CA can take there modem and shove it up there A-- for
> all I care.
>
> --
> James Wadden Jr.
> Graphics Workshop / Black Rose Tattoo Studio
A T1 is 1.544mbit/sec, which gives a max throughput of about
192Kbytes/sec.
Or did you mean 300kbits/sec?
Colin
--
[In reference to Stephen Tweedie] I'm very happy with his design, as
usual - sometimes I think that guy will solve world peace next but
when I asked about that, he said that was a user space problem :-)
- Larry McVoy on the Linux Kernel Mailing List
James Wadden
but the t1 is close to me, that could have a lot to do with it.
--
James Wadden Jr.
Graphics Workshop / Black Rose Tattoo Studio
St. John's, NF
jwa...@roadrunner.nf.net
jag...@roadrunner.nf.net
http://surfer.firstcity.net/~94jwadde
http://www.booth.k12.nf.ca/~7jwadden
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Colin Stuckless
>
> I meant 300K/sec.....that's right, I even have screen shots.....or I should,
> but the t1 is close to me, that could have a lot to do with it.
Did you ever consider that your software may be lying to you?
Robert Lewis
Colin Stuckless <col...@stuck.warped.com> wrote in message
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Serge
monitor monitor on my desk....who in this world looks the best?
"you look the best Serge".......now there's a lie....LOL
All this boils down to CA expanding too fast...and now with the $29.95
promo they will really overload the system. My guess is that WARP will
experience the same problems. Best thing to do is to be happy with what
you have and recall how much a 28.9 modem sucked for downloads.
And if you are so worried about the difference between 100k/s and 30k/s
then see a shrink. You are suffering from "technostress" which is a common
psychiatric disorder for computer nerds who can't sleep at night because
they know something is on the market that is faster than what they currently
are using. Seriously folks....seek help.
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CR
Someone has stated it. It's all petty bickering... It gets on my nerves
reading through all the CA vs. NewTel treads that have appeared. Either
way RR or Warp is far superior to dial-up...
I still use 33.6, but each and every time I connect to the 'net I think
about getting something FASTER! I'l admit I have certain loyalties to
CA. Then there's the fact that I have had an account with Sympatico, and
got screwed around to much. So draw your own conclusions as to why I
would prefer to support CA...
CR
--
Chris Rose
cr...@nfld.com
--
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down?
We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. - Jack
Handy
Serge
but....just wait a few months until the Warp crowd get
too many users...lets see how friendly their techs will be
on the phone...no different then the other bunch of ignorant
impatient pricks at sympatico and CA. They are suffering
from technostress too. (although I can just imagine how
frustrating they must get in dealing with those of us who
haven't got a clue when it comes to computers).
Just relax.....think happy thoughts.
W. Jesse Flowers
> And if you are so worried about the difference between 100k/s and 30k/s
> then see a shrink.
And another idea might be to take this discussion to nf.comp.misc. I
dare say it's getting on a lot of people's nerves.
> You are suffering from "technostress" which is a common
> psychiatric disorder for computer nerds who can't sleep at night because
> they know something is on the market that is faster than what they currently
> are using. Seriously folks....seek help.
Good point. It's clear that a handful of people want to switch. We
heard you all the first time! Now please take the further
download-rate-nitpicking/ slow-gaming-embittered "I'm gonna switch to
Warp as soon as I can" discussions to nf.comp.misc where it belongs.
*That* group is virtually dead, while this one is junked up with whining
over Cable Atlantic's service.
Jess
Robert Lewis
Simple
Rob
W. Jesse Flowers
> Doesn't general mean just about anything? Don't read it if it bugs you.
> Simple
True, general *does mean* just about anything. But there are several
other different local newsgroups, each with their specific interests
(gardening, computing, linux, arts, etc.)
Multiple choice: Where do the following posts belong?
(Subject: FS: <such and such>)
I have for sale, such and such a thing. $50 ono.
a) nf.general
b) nf.wanted
c) nf.comp.misc
d) nf.gardening
(Subject: Corn in NF)
Anyone know how to get corn to grow in Newfoundland?
a) nf.general
b) nf.wanted
c) nf.comp.misc
d) nf.gardening
(Subject: Roadrunner vs. Warp)
CA's service is sub-standard, I can't get warp right yet, but MAN, CA
will rue the day when it becomes available in my area ... <30 K/sec
versus 70K/sec> ... <etc etc> ...
a) nf.general
b) nf.wanted
c) nf.comp.misc
d) nf.gardening
Murphy
though. I have two phone lines in my house. I put the first number in...
it said I could get ADSL. Second number... no good. What gives with
that?!?
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Wallace J.McLean
"Robert Lewis" (robl...@thezone.net) writes:
> Doesn't general mean just about anything? Don't read it if it bugs you.
It means general within the parameters of the more specific scope of the
group (i.e. "nf"), and to the extent that there is no other group in the
hierarchy that is more appropriate.
Darren Newton
in Residence at the University, I was told that they "weren't sure" if I could
get it but that they would "look into it" and call me in a day or two .... well,
no call as of yet so I checked on-line last night .... I apparently cannot get
it here .... oh well. But then I tried a few of my co-workers' and students'
phone numbers and lo' and behold some can and others can't. In fact, the student
living in the room directly above my apartment can apparently get it .... and I
can't .... go figure.
I think I will call them again : }
Cheers,
Darren
Robert Lewis
I am a person in Newfoundland and I chose to discuss Internet service
providers in Newfoundland. This a problem?
Rob
Serge
or the Salvation Army.....LOL
Who cares as long as there is a good discussion on it.
It seems to be an interesting thread. The fact that it could fit
into a more specific pigeon hole does not necessarily mean
we cannot discuss it here since it relates to many users of
this service.
Now, if you were interested in finding out about a technical
computer problem, or asking questions about software etc.
then yes....post it to nf.comp.misc, etc.
As for the condescending multiple choice test....
you should have posted in nf.test....so for you Jesse....F....ha
Tim
suggestion to move some of the techno stuff to nf.comp.misc. He was
promptly shouted down by a couple of guys 8) Oh well.
But nf.comp.misc, though having a small amount of traffic, is a *great*
group for technical questions. Since Paul's suggestion (and subsequent
execution by electronic firing squad), I've posted a number of queries
there and received advice which has helped me a lot or at least answered
some nagging questions I had.
As to the CA and Warp thing, it's kind of hard to classify where it
should go...a lot of the posts here seem to be more about customer
service than anything.
W. Jesse Flowers wrote:
> True, general *does mean* just about anything. But there are several
> other different local newsgroups, each with their specific interests
> (gardening, computing, linux, arts, etc.)
--
Tim - http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^*~,_,~*^
,~*^#^*~, ^*~,_,~*^ "Stay away from Earth, freak!"
,~*^#^*~, Anonymous bad guy, Babylon 5
Bill W
group ALIVE.
If it wasent like topics like this one , this news group will be DEAD like
some other ones.
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Robert King
Don't know the number as I have not checked. I had Warp installed and was very
pleased. Warp 1 was as fasst a any cable modem I have seeen. The new warp 3 is
twice as fast and is great. I have had no problems, free instillation and at the
end of the payments the modem is mine not like Cable Atlantic.
Bob
J Green wrote:
> Ok... I would really like to get some straight answers.. and what better way
> to get them then from other users. I have Roadrunner.. I am pretty pleased
> with it so far. I say pretty pleased because I was expecting a bit better
> performance than what I ended up with. On avg. i get about 30-70k downstream
> and 50-150k upstream..I also have the old Zenith modem and a static IP...
> which is good. But, if i can get better performance from ADSL i would
> consider switching.. OK can someone answer these questions:
>
> Why cant i do ping or traceroute?
>
> Does CA have a cap on the downstream?
>
> Why are all my friends on the mainland gettin' 200k + downstream?
>
> Why is CA using 4mb/sec modems when Zenith sells cheaper 2mb/sec modems?
>
> What avg speeds could i expect from NewTel's Warp?
>
> Thanx alot,
> J
> jgr...@roadrunner.nf.net
M Janes
CA currently has a promotion on with a different pricing structure as
well as changes in the service that allows you to either rent the
modem, or purchase it.
See the following site for details:
http://www.nf.rr.com/cost_table.html
Monty
On Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:18:08 GMT, Robert King <rmk...@nf.sympatico.ca>
wrote:
Thomas Clancy
: People are shitting on the tech help service at CA and I agree
: but....just wait a few months until the Warp crowd get
As far as I understand it, Warp's help is 24/7. CA's is awful.
You almost always get a machine, and wait forever for a return call.
Oh, and it's 9-5 or something like that =')
The Warp "Crowd" probably has the same bunch that handles their
Sympatico stuff, it's off-island, and 'online' tech support
for most of eastern Canada - doubtful if they'll "get tired".
The King
mainlanders with sympatico then we are all in trouble.
They are the biggest bunch of idiots going.
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