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Algernon Alcala

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Aug 2, 2024, 7:33:22 PM8/2/24
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The problem is that when I am trying to get any Groovy plugin from Eclipse Marketplace, Eclipse agrees to install the Groovy-Eclipse feature only with condition of uninstalling of virtually everything. These plugins are old, base on even older jars and are incompatible with contemporary plugins, basing on more modern jars. I am sorry if I am telling that wrong, I am trying up to my understanding of Eclipse plugins compatibility and creation.

To load the Eclipse for plugin developers, the source code of Groovy plugin and recreate it with new jars. It is the most interesting way, but I am horrified by the amount of work - it will take weeks. Or more. And I need tests now.

I can see on the GitHub -eclipse/wiki/Groovy-Eclipse-2.9.2-Release-Notes obviously the last version of groovy for Eclipse. But how can I add it to an Eclipse package? Not a way is given on the page. What is the sense of making an Eclipse plugin that does not support an import from Eclipse? Obviously, there should exist some way.

The marketplace reference for Groovy has been updated. The GitHub project wiki for Groovy-Eclipse lists the latest snapshot and release update sites that you can use to install Groovy support into Eclipse.

I agree with the article. Although I am a long time Eclipse user I never undestood the need of the release train naming. It was always confusing. Just get rid of it. You might attract a few of those IntelliJ IDEA devs back.

The conference from M. Barbero at Devoxx France was great. But we need more of those conferences.
Maybe we should create a group/project to exchange information and material and encourage participation everywhere we can.

I think you really missed the point. Not the codenames are the problem but the name eclipse for the IDE. In the beginning eclipse was the name of a very good java IDE and everything was good, but then more and more projects which have nothing to do with a java IDE adopt the brand name eclipse. So when you search the web for eclipse you get many hits for other projects under the umbrella of the eclipse foundation which have nothing to do with your java IDE. So i think eclipse needs to find a new name for the IDE so that it is much easier for people to find out if an information the find on the internet is related to their favorite IDE or to another eclipse project.

I am supposed to update one of our documents and tell the users how the can get Eclipse 4.4.2 or higher. I am currently looking for a page that shows the version number to fantasy name mapping. No luck so far.

Same product, different versions. Eclipse Mars is the version of Eclipse IDE released in 2015, Eclipse Neon is the version of Eclipse IDE released in 2016. Neon has lots of new and improved features, check out these webinars

.If you go to the eclipse.org page, there is not one shred of evidence that eclipse.org is the source of Eclipse Neon or the upcoming Eclipse Oxygen. So the actual home page of the project is not being maintained in a way that helps users learn which release to use.

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I have eclipse-jee-neon-3. I tried to install STS (Spring tool suit plugin) from eclipse marketplace but it's not showing STS plugins. Can anyone please tell which version of eclipse will support STS plugins or how to run spring-boot application on eclipse-jee-neon-3.

If you are required to stay on Eclipse Neon (for whatever reason), the latest release that supported that version of Eclipse was STS 3.9.4 and you could use this p2 repo URL to install it manually into an Eclipse from back then:

The latest version of this document can be found on the web at Eclipse Release Notes 4.6 (Neon). There may or may not be changes made after the product is released. You can tell by checking the "last revised" date near the top of this page.

Most of the Eclipse SDK is "pure" Java code and has no direct dependence on the underlying operating system. The chief dependence is therefore on the Java Platform itself. Portions are targeted to specific classes of operating environments, requiring their source code to only reference facilities available in particular class libraries (e.g. J2ME Foundation 1.1, J2SE 1.4, Java 5, etc).

There are many different implementations of the Java Platform running atop a variety of operating systems. We focus our testing on a handful of popular combinations of operating system and Java Platform; these are our reference platforms. Eclipse undoubtedly runs fine in many operating environments beyond the reference platforms we test. However, since we do not systematically test them we cannot vouch for them. Problems encountered when running Eclipse on a non-reference platform that cannot be recreated on any reference platform will be given lower priority than problems with running Eclipse on a reference platform.

As stated above, we expect that Eclipse works fine on other current Java VM and OS versions but we cannot flag these as reference platforms without significant community support for testing them.

The Eclipse SDK is designed as the basis for internationalized products. The user interface elements provided by the Eclipse SDK components, including dialogs and error messages, are externalized. The English strings are provided as the default resource bundles.

API Contract Compatibility: Eclipse SDK 4.6 is upwards contract-compatible with Eclipse SDK 4.5 except in those areas noted in the Eclipse 4.6 Plug-in Migration Guide. Programs that use affected APIs and extension points will need to be ported to Eclipse SDK 4.6 APIs. Downward contract compatibility is not supported. There is no guarantee that compliance with Eclipse SDK 4.6 APIs would ensure compliance with Eclipse SDK 4.5 APIs. Refer to Evolving Java-based APIs for a discussion of the kinds of API changes that maintain contract compatibility.

Binary (plug-in) Compatibility: Eclipse SDK 4.6 is upwards binary-compatible with Eclipse SDK 4.5 except in those areas noted in the Eclipse 4.6 Plug-in Migration Guide . Downward plug-in compatibility is not supported. Plug-ins for Eclipse SDK 4.6 will not be usable in Eclipse SDK 4.5. Refer to Evolving Java-based APIs for a discussion of the kinds of API changes that maintain binary compatibility.

Source Compatibility: Eclipse SDK 4.6 is upwards source-compatible with Eclipse SDK 4.5 except in the areas noted in the Eclipse 4.6 Plug-in Migration Guide . This means that source files written to use Eclipse SDK 4.5 APIs might successfully compile and run against Eclipse SDK 4.6 APIs, although this is not guaranteed. Downward source compatibility is not supported. If source files use new Eclipse SDK APIs, they will not be usable with an earlier version of the Eclipse SDK.

Workspace Compatibility: Eclipse SDK 4.6 is upwards workspace-compatible with earlier 3.x and 4.x versions of the Eclipse SDK unless noted. This means that workspaces and projects created with Eclipse SDK 4.5, 4.4, 4.3, 4.2, ... 3.0 can be successfully opened by Eclipse SDK 4.6 and upgraded to a 4.6 workspace. This includes both hidden metadata, which is localized to a particular workspace, as well as metadata files found within a workspace project (e.g., the .project file), which may propagate between workspaces via file copying or team repositories. Individual plug-ins developed for Eclipse SDK 4.6 should provide similar upwards compatibility for their hidden and visible workspace metadata created by earlier versions; 4.6 plug-in developers are responsible for ensuring that their plug-ins recognize metadata from earlier versions and process it appropriately. User interface session state may be discarded when a workspace is upgraded. Downward workspace compatibility is not supported. A workspace created (or opened) by a product based on Eclipse 4.6 will be unusable with a product based on an earlier version of Eclipse. Visible metadata files created (or overwritten) by Eclipse 4.6 will generally be unusable with earlier versions of Eclipse.

Non-compliant usage of API's: All non-API methods and classes, and certainly everything in a package with "internal" in its name or x-internal in the bundle manifest entry, are considered implementation details which may vary between operating environment and are subject to change without notice. Client plug-ins that directly depend on anything other than what is specified in the Eclipse SDK API are inherently unsupportable and receive no guarantees about compatibility within a single release much less with earlier releases. Refer to How to Use the Eclipse API for information about how to write compliant plug-ins.

The Oracle JVM may hang indefinitely during class loading if it runs out of permanent generation memory. This will cause CPU usage to stay at 100% until the process is ended. See the section Running Eclipse for details on addressing this VM problem.

GCJ is an effort by the GCC team to provide an open source Java compiler and runtime environment to interpret Java bytecode. Unfortunately, the GCJ runtime environment is not an environment that is often tested on by Eclipse developers.

The workspace's log file is a good place to check to identify whether GCJ is being used or not. Every Eclipse log session is prepended with information about the runtime environment that was used to run Eclipse. The log may include something like the following: java.fullversion=GNU libgcj 4.2.1 (Debian 4.2.1-5)

If Eclipse does start, one can check which runtime environment is being used to run Eclipse by going to Help > About Eclipse SDK > Installation Details > Configuration. The About dialog itself can also provide other information, the build identifier can be of particular interest as it is tagged by some distributions. This allows the user to identify whether Eclipse was downloaded through the distribution's package management system or directly from the eclipse.org web site.
Such as:
Build id: M20070212-1330 (Ubuntu version: 3.2.2-0ubuntu3)

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