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Frank in FLA

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Sep 9, 2008, 5:31:46 PM9/9/08
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Mark the date, I predicting a John McCain Victory !
Why so early you ask? Because Obama can't get on TV since the
convention. Since Gov. Palin got in the race, Obama now knows what
Hillary felt like. "Sarah has a hang nail" would get more coverage
than anything Barack could do.
Now the biggest fashion statement going around now is the Sarah
Glasses and the Sarah hairdo. That gets more coverage than the troop
withdrawn from Iraq.
I know she is new, young, inexpericenced, funny & articulate (that
sound familiar), but every thing she says is gospel even it's not
true. Fact check is on vacation.
McCain has completely changed his message. "I'm the maverick, and I
will change Washington" You've been there for 26 years and haven't
changed it, what makes you think you change it now. And Sarah says " I
told Washington to keep their Bridge to Nowhere" But she keep the
money in Alaska, not the US Treasury.

The economy is the worst shape as it has been in 70 years. The
taxpayers are bailing out FHA & the Freddie's, and banks are being
bailed out by FDIC, and the news media is talking about Sarah's
Glasses. ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX and even NBC have become Enterainment
Tonight.

Frank

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Dann

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Sep 9, 2008, 6:22:38 PM9/9/08
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On 09 Sep 2008, Frank in FLA said the following in
news:eijdc4lc3trh9hqf1...@4ax.com.

> The economy is the worst shape as it has been in 70 years.

I was alive for the late 70's and early 80's. It was much worse then.

It was worse in 2001-2002 as well. But a few well placed tax cuts seem to
have gotten things moving then. Perhaps making them permanent now would
also be a move in the right direction.

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Sep 9, 2008, 8:26:33 PM9/9/08
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In article <eijdc4lc3trh9hqf1...@4ax.com>, Frank in FLA says...

>
>Mark the date, I predicting a John McCain Victory !
>Why so early you ask? Because Obama can't get on TV since the
>convention. Since Gov. Palin got in the race, Obama now knows what
>Hillary felt like. "Sarah has a hang nail" would get more coverage
>than anything Barack could do.
>Now the biggest fashion statement going around now is the Sarah
>Glasses and the Sarah hairdo. That gets more coverage than the troop
>withdrawn from Iraq.
>I know she is new, young, inexpericenced, funny & articulate (that
>sound familiar), but every thing she says is gospel even it's not
>true. Fact check is on vacation.
>McCain has completely changed his message. "I'm the maverick, and I
>will change Washington" You've been there for 26 years and haven't
>changed it, what makes you think you change it now. And Sarah says " I
>told Washington to keep their Bridge to Nowhere" But she keep the
>money in Alaska, not the US Treasury.

>The economy is the worst shape as it has been in 70 years.

Your grasp of US economic history lacks opposable thumbs.

Bob

JRogow

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Sep 9, 2008, 8:26:37 PM9/9/08
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I have Vista, and need to update the www.iwvjca.org web-page ASAP.

In XP it was easy, just use word and everything worked a charm.

In Vista . . .

Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?

Oh, I also have Front Page - but can't get it to recognize the URL.

Any hints, tips, suggestions would be appreciated.
(And, no, going back to XP is not an option, unfortunately)

J


Yak Rider

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Sep 9, 2008, 8:27:27 PM9/9/08
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In article <eijdc4lc3trh9hqf1...@4ax.com>, Frank in FLA says...
>

<snip>

>McCain has completely changed his message. "I'm the maverick, and I
>will change Washington" You've been there for 26 years and haven't
>changed it, what makes you think you change it now. And Sarah says " I
>told Washington to keep their Bridge to Nowhere" But she keep the
>money in Alaska, not the US Treasury.

..and Obama's trying to peddle the message that McCain is Bush's 3rd term and
tie McCain to Bush. LMAO. Good luck. McCain spent the last 7 years being a
pain in Bush's arse. Only a cretin will buy into this line.

>The economy is the worst shape as it has been in 70 years. The
>taxpayers are bailing out FHA & the Freddie's, and banks are being
>bailed out by FDIC, and the news media is talking about Sarah's
>Glasses. ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX and even NBC have become Enterainment
>Tonight.
>
>Frank

70 years? Where were you during the Carter Administration? Where were you when
16% was a GOOD rate on a fixed home loan? Where were you when unemployment was
12% and inflation was 13%.

Where were you in the 80's when the FDIC and FSLIC went belly-up due the massive
failure of banks and S&L's?

Where were you when New York City defaulted on its bonds and essentially went
bankrupt and Chrysler Automotive was a penny stock?

My God, I might be showing my age, but you need to get reconnect to reality.

Barry Obama's going to lose alright, and it's not because he can't get his
message out. He's going to lose because, deep down inside, he really does think
folks in fly-over country are bitter xenophobes who cling to God and guns. The
Northeast and the West Coast are nice places, but fly-over country is where
elections are decided. Governor Palin is from fly-over country. She doesn't
need to lay on a line of phony bullshit when she talks to people from there.


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Hans

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Sep 9, 2008, 8:27:33 PM9/9/08
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On 9 Sep 2008 15:22:38 -0700, deto...@hotmail.com (Dann) wrote:

>On 09 Sep 2008, Frank in FLA said the following in
>news:eijdc4lc3trh9hqf1...@4ax.com.
>
>> The economy is the worst shape as it has been in 70 years.
>
>I was alive for the late 70's and early 80's. It was much worse then.
>
>It was worse in 2001-2002 as well. But a few well placed tax cuts seem to
>have gotten things moving then. Perhaps making them permanent now would
>also be a move in the right direction.

I think Frank forgot about the Carter years.


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Frank in FLA

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Sep 10, 2008, 9:28:34 AM9/10/08
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You are right I forgot about the Carter years, I made too many
deployments during that time period. I bought my house during that
period (in 3 days) at 12% when I signed, luckily it went down to 10%
before closing. Yes, I have refinanced it several times since then.
Something I probably couldn't do now, even I wanted too, due to the
credit crunch. No I don't remember FDIC going belly up, maybe it did.
2001-2002 was nearly as bad as now. Maybe for the airlines that were
suffering. New York and Chrysler paid back their loans.
The economy is horrible state today, the dollar is worthless, and we
owe 9 trillion dollars and are still borrowing to pay for Iraq. And
the government is giving away money as a stimulus package. I really
wonder if either of the candidates have a clue how to fix it, if they
do neither is talking about it.
I do remember the '90s with the go-go dot coms that drove the stock
market through the roof. I was at AOL then, I remember getting free
banana splits every time the stock split, which was about every 4
months until the unfortunate merger with Time-Warner. That merger
seemed to coincide with dot com bubble bursting. The stock went from
$175 down to $8 in a year. And no Clinton didn't have for it going up
or coming down. At least he didn't contribute to the 9 trillion dollar
debt, he paid his way, something the Republicans can't seem to do.

If Democrats are tax and spend, the Republicans are borrow and spend &
leave the bill for others. The largest share of National Budget goes
to paying the interest on the debt. I can remember when defense was
the largest line item. At least back then that money stayed in the
US, going to Lockheed, McDonald, Boeing, etc. Now it goes overseas,
because foreign governments are buying up our bonds

Palin Power will propel John McCain into the Oval Office. She is more
popular than him or Obama. Unless someone actually starts talking
about the issues that matter, I may have to vote for Nadar or Ron
Paul, at least they are real conservatives.

Joe

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Sep 10, 2008, 11:36:54 AM9/10/08
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In article <eijdc4lc3trh9hqf1...@4ax.com>, Frank in FLA says...
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Frank,

With all due respect, you can't find McCain - Palin in the news unless it is in
respect to Obama. O'Reilly is as in the tank with Obama at least as much as
MSNBC, hosting a week long interview that began in the middle of the RNC, and
this will be handed off to another week of coverage next week. He asked the
questions we'd like to see asked, jousts with Obama for a moment or two, then
allows him to give a speech in response. He always ends the segments with a
comment on how much respect and admiration he has gained for the candidate.

This morning Fox Live was running interference for the caustic pig comment Obama
made. After showing full coverage of an Obama visit to a library where he
further ridiculed Governor Palin before going on to his socialist agenda, Fox
showed 5 seconds of McCain and Palin in Virginia before the screen went black
and they reported trouble with their satellite feed as a reason they could not
provide equal coverage. This was the third time in a week they have done this.
There is something about the American candidates that the press, rife with
liberals hates and they are desperate to stop them. I don't think it is working.

This congress needs to go, Republicans and Democrats - our modern royalty. We
need change and not the kind that is based on inexperienced hustlers who think
they will play Robin Hood. I love when I see a room full of people in a tight
knit urban center speaking for small town little America when they are speaking
for more of the same; theft of the American dream, a rise of new aristocracy,
less freedom and less opportunity. If they would stop stealing from most
Americans they should be able to do just fine on their own. We need a
revolution.

Joe

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Sep 10, 2008, 11:38:23 AM9/10/08
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In article <ga6ts...@news3.newsguy.com>, JRogow says...
Judith, I'm using FrontPage and Vista. What is entered that can't be found as a
URL?

Frank in FLA

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Sep 10, 2008, 10:21:04 PM9/10/08
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On 10 Sep 2008 08:36:54 -0700, Joe <J...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>caustic pig comment Obama

Oh Please Joe, it's a very common expression that has been used by
McCain as well as Obama before. If you watched the full speech, Palin
is not mentioned, refered to, or anything else. No harm, no foul. No
gotta, nothing. Much to do about nothing, typical of politions who
don't have anything to say, so they make up a controversy.
McCain didn't have an answer for what was being said, (That
McCain-Palin are trotting out the same wonderful plan for America that
has been in place for 7 years and calling it a change.

I don't what news you watch, Joe but "Sarah Mania" has taken over the
airwaves. Even Entertainment Tonight had a reporter covering her.
She's the new rock star, Obama is old news.
Hopefully they will both start talking about HOW they are going to
implement their plans and let us decide who to vote for.

Joe

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Sep 10, 2008, 10:52:21 PM9/10/08
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In article <3bmgc499svjhd0pss...@4ax.com>, Frank in FLA says...

Frank,

Honestly, that is naive. Yes, McCain used this well known term in critiquing
legislation that Mrs Clinton attempted to convince everyone was something that
it wasn't. Mrs. Clinton did not coin an extremely popular phrase regarding
lipstick a week prior to the McCain making the comment. The Obama campaign used
your talking points as a lame excuse while Obama further denigrated this woman
further today. Today's attack was to suggest she was selected for V.P. solely
because she did not have an abortion.

I think the Democrats are so far away from the population they don't even
realize how transparent they are, how sicking they are as adults in responsible
positions and why they have a popularity rating half the number of an incredibly
unpopular President. They will sell the story you've recited to extreme
Democrats who have lost all sense of civility and speak down to the people who
put them in office, they will not convince the people who see them for what they
are. I'm sorry but Obama isn't much of a man or much of a person and his
personality is showing for what is, an incompetent who has no business being in
the position he is. I don't have to say it, women will say it. And every time he
sends a bunch of men out to explain to women that they are too stupid to
understand and to send them back home to watch the kids like a good little
woman, they will lose even further. Today I realized this man will never be in
the White House, he isn't fit to hold an office that needs to be repaired, not
further diminished by Presidents of other diminishing stature.

The real concern Democrats are showing in their "party above country" union
mentality is that this woman may very well be the President that follows McCain.
They don't want a woman president and they don't want one with traditional
values. They see women, they can only think pro choice - pro life, they can;t
believe a woman would understand foreign policy, a good economic and education
strategy. They want Obama and his plan for explicit sex education for five year
old children. I assume you read the bill he co-authored and didn't listen to his
misrepresentation of fact?

Frank in FLA

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Sep 11, 2008, 1:49:09 PM9/11/08
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On 10 Sep 2008 19:52:21 -0700, Joe <J...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>coin an extremely popular phrase regarding
>lipstick

Without all due respect Joe, she didn't Coin anything. The phrase has
been around since I was in high school and that was a long time ago. I
know I am wasting my breathe but here goes, There was no reference to
Gov. Palin! Overtly or Covertly.
It is a common phrase meant to expain that a dressing up an old issue
in new clothes doesn't change the issue. And that is exactly what John
McCain is doing since his convention. He is trying to go back to the
2000 John McCain, unfortunately a lot water has passed under the
bridge since 2000. Like joining forces with the man he lost to in
2000, George Bush. The only issues that he has disagreed with Bush
on, the surge and the new GI Bill that Obama co-sponsored.

The ad about sex education that the McCain ad refers to was bill about
sexual predators and McCain knows it but he has seemed to go for
distortions over fact since the convention finished.

Most of us can see thru these distortions. I want to hear want McCain
or Obama is going to do about the economy in the short term. Both are
sitting Senators and the Senate is in session. Maybe both are too busy
to write legislation, which is what their respective states elected
them to do. Have either of them even been in DC since their
conventions? I doubt it. The latest "Gang of 10" has some good
legislation on energy, but other than their usual talking points,
neither has mentioned whether they are for it or against it.

Maybe that is reason that no sitting senator has been elected
president since 1960.

Frank

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Hans

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Sep 11, 2008, 2:36:18 PM9/11/08
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On 11 Sep 2008 10:49:09 -0700, fran...@newsguy.com (Frank in FLA)
wrote:

>On 10 Sep 2008 19:52:21 -0700, Joe <J...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>coin an extremely popular phrase regarding
>>lipstick
>

>Most of us can see thru these distortions. I want to hear want McCain


>or Obama is going to do about the economy in the short term.


The only real fix for the economy is to stop rewarding those that have
stooped or won't work and are spoon fed by segments of the democratic
party who play Robin Hood for votes. These are the same people that
don't teach their kids any respect including respect for education or
even self.

There is no "fixing" long term, a countries economy that graduates
less than 60% of their kids from high school. Want to guess what party
dominates these institutions and how the irresponsible parent(s)?

The democratic party is a sad mix of the irresponsible and self
absorbed.

JRogow

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Sep 11, 2008, 2:36:38 PM9/11/08
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"Joe" <J...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:ga8pl...@drn.newsguy.com...

Joe has been helping, but I had to go to the old laptop to do the updates as
there is a problem saving changes using Vista on a 64 bit system with Front
Page. So, if anyone knows of a program that would solve this problem, I'd
appreciate your input.

Bob

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Sep 11, 2008, 5:41:18 PM9/11/08
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On 11 Sep 2008 10:49:09 -0700, Frank in FLA said...

I may be wrong, but prior to Palin's speech at the Republican National
Convention I had never heard anyone joke about lipstick being the difference
between pitbulls and hockey moms.

The comment received significant media coverage following the convention, and
I'd have to imagine that Obama was taking a poke at Palin and her specific
remark when he made mention to "lipstick on a pig".

If you consider the timing of his comment & the reaction from the crowd, it
seems pretty clear that everyone in attendance... including Obama himself...
knew that his remark was directed at Palin.

Best regards,
B...@newsguy.com
NewsGuy.Com

Hans

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Sep 11, 2008, 6:10:13 PM9/11/08
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On 11 Sep 2008 14:41:18 -0700, Bob <b...@newsguy.com> wrote:


>The comment received significant media coverage following the convention, and
>I'd have to imagine that Obama was taking a poke at Palin and her specific
>remark when he made mention to "lipstick on a pig".
>
>If you consider the timing of his comment & the reaction from the crowd, it
>seems pretty clear that everyone in attendance... including Obama himself...
>knew that his remark was directed at Palin.
>


Considering his "guns and religion" comment in San Francisco, I can't
imagine he wasn't, again, pandering to the audience.

JRogow

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Sep 11, 2008, 8:49:11 PM9/11/08
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"Bob" <b...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:gac39...@drn.newsguy.com...

> I may be wrong, but prior to Palin's speech at the Republican National
> Convention I had never heard anyone joke about lipstick being the
> difference
> between pitbulls and hockey moms.
>
> The comment received significant media coverage following the convention,
> and
> I'd have to imagine that Obama was taking a poke at Palin and her specific
> remark when he made mention to "lipstick on a pig".
>
> If you consider the timing of his comment & the reaction from the crowd,
> it
> seems pretty clear that everyone in attendance... including Obama
> himself...
> knew that his remark was directed at Palin.

The original joke was Soccer Moms, Palin changed it a tad.

Bob

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Sep 12, 2008, 10:48:52 AM9/12/08
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On 9 Sep 2008 17:27:27 -0700, Yak Rider said...

You're starting to hear the Obama / Carter comparisons with more frequency, and
for the most part I think the comparisons are fair. As a country we're in a
precarious situation, and depending upon who we place in the White House we're
one step away from a major petro crisis, economic stagnation and out of control
inflation among other things.

This year's election isn't about voting for a white guy or a black guy, it's
about voting for the person that has the best shot at maintaining our country's
prosperity, security, etc.

Best regards,
B...@newsguy.com
NewsGuy.Com

Frank in FLA

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Sep 12, 2008, 11:28:28 AM9/12/08
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Here is what the news media is saying about the "Straight Talk
Express"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080912/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_stretching_the_truth;_ylt=AixV9PUa6umxZE_PMIc68kVh24cA

Hans

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Sep 12, 2008, 11:28:37 AM9/12/08
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I heard it about women in a divorce proceeding!

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