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Lancelot6

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Jun 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/24/00
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please add the group: alt.binaries.pictures.art.pin-up

the group was properly proposed and discussed in alt.config.
creation message is attached.


TIA
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Lancelot6

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From: ko...@worldnet.att.net
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Cmsg newgroup alt.binaries.pictures.art.pin-up
Control: newgroup alt.binaries.pictures.art.pin-up
Date: 19 Jun 2000 23:43:30 +0200
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Summary: discussed in alt.config, substantial interest, appropriate
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Keywords: art, pinup, cheesecake
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Comments
I proposed this newsgroup in alt.config during May, 2000;
the purpose is to supercede the existing newsgroup
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.art.pin-up which has become a "spam
magnet" due to the word "erotica" appearing in the group name.

For your Newsgroup files:
alt.binaries.pictures.art.pin-up posting of realistic (i.e. not
cartoon) ART in the classic style (before 1960).

Charter:
The following is a slightly modified version of the existing FAQ:
"This newsgroup is dedicated to the pin-up and the art of
cheesecake. "Cheesecake", as used here is a particular school of art,
predominantly of the last hundred years. As defined here it refers to
pictures that are primarily of provocatively clad, sexually attractive
women. These pictures generally focus only on the subject, with
background and props kept to a minimum.
"The subjects of pin-ups/cheesecake are attractive people, not body
parts nor sexual activity. The model is "provocative" not obscene. She
may be coy, flirtatious or even seductive, but all such invitations
are promises or hopes of the future and not yet faits accomplis. She
may also be caught unaware in the innocent act of being herself.
Again, it is the study of anatomy, not gynecology.
"Examples would be calendar pictures, post cards, WWII "Bomber Nose
Art", and magazine pin-ups or book/pulp covers. Cheesecake is also
used in advertisements, on posters, tin signs and the like. Postings
would include not only the art work of Charles Dana Gibson, Olivia De
Berardinis, Alberto Vargas, Gil Elvgren, and George Petty, either in
color or black & white, but also pin-up photography of such classic
beauties as Bettie Page, Betty Grable and other models or actresses,
active before 1960.
"Explicitly excluded are ANY commercial messages (SPAM), or
off-topic postings for which alternative newsgroups already exist
(e.g., "fakes" produced by merging pinup figures with alternative backgrounds)."

Justification of Readership
The existing news group news:alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.art.pin-up
has become a "spam magnet"; it is believed by the subscribers that
this is a result of the string "erotica" in the group name. It is
hoped that a new newsgroup without the offending "erotica" in the name
(but retaining the same subject matter) will eliminate the majority of
this offensive spam. The existing group had about 30.000 posts last
year

Mike

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Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
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Hi Lancelot6,

Thanks for taking the time to submit your request, and our apologies for the
late reply. We're going to go ahead and add this group to the Extra service, and
see how things go with it over the next week or so.

Best regards,

Mike

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Lancelot6

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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mi...@newsguy.com (Mike) wrote:

>Thanks for taking the time to submit your request, and our apologies for the
>late reply. We're going to go ahead and add this group to the Extra
service,

thank you, Mike.

>and see how things go with it over the next week or so.

getting life into a new alt-group is pretty difficult today.
just a few hosts carry the group now :-)

please leave us enough time to get 'on the air'.

TIA

Lance

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