Lack of contact info on http://newsinitiative.org/ucb/

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Raymond Yee

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Apr 26, 2007, 1:54:21 PM4/26/07
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Hi everyone,

I don't know whether this is the appropriate place to make this
comment -- but I'm trying to interact with http://newsinitiative.org/ucb/
and found the videos helpful (that some of the fellows have). For
instance, viewers are invited to drop the fellows a line. But I found
it difficult to find any email addresses.

I did find them at the JSchool site (e.g.,
http://journalism.berkeley.edu/students/resume.php?ID=234 for Cat).

-Raymond Yee

Milan Andric

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Apr 26, 2007, 2:53:00 PM4/26/07
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Hey Raymond,

Good point ... we need to work on this and the blog in general. It's
been deemed a mess by enlarge and we're planning to rework it.

As for dropping a line, I think we also hoped people would post videos
as well as comments. Another idea, which I like, is to use a youtube
video to link to a fellow's youtube account and post comments/videos
there.

I always thought a contact form was more appropriate than leaving a
mail address for the spam bots to gobble up. Or we could obfuscate
it. Not sure what's preferred ...

So here's couple things we'll focus on :

1) Some editorial process for front page and general clean up

2) Contact info/functionality on author pages

--
Milan


--
Milan

Raymond Yee

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Apr 27, 2007, 6:02:51 PM4/27/07
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On Apr 26, 11:53 am, "Milan Andric" <mand...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> As for dropping a line, I think we also hoped people would post videos
> as well as comments. Another idea, which I like, is to use a youtube
> video to link to a fellow's youtube account and post comments/videos
> there.

As for me, leaving a video commentary poses a relatively large
barrier. I don't carry around my webcam and the computer I have
doesn't have one built-in. Maybe I'm just not of the YouTube
generation, being 40 years old.


>
> I always thought a contact form was more appropriate than leaving a
> mail address for the spam bots to gobble up. Or we could obfuscate
> it. Not sure what's preferred ...

I don't have a definitive answer. I understand the need for contact
forms -- but being able to send email is nice in many circumstances.
(I like, for instance, being able to look at my email outbox to see a
record of messages I've sent out.)


>
> So here's couple things we'll focus on :
>
> 1) Some editorial process for front page and general clean up
>
> 2) Contact info/functionality on author pages
>
> --
> Milan
>

> On 4/26/07, Raymond Yee <raymond....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > I don't know whether this is the appropriate place to make this

> > comment -- but I'm trying to interact withhttp://newsinitiative.org/ucb/


> > and found the videos helpful (that some of the fellows have). For
> > instance, viewers are invited to drop the fellows a line. But I found
> > it difficult to find any email addresses.
>
> > I did find them at the JSchool site (e.g.,

> >http://journalism.berkeley.edu/students/resume.php?ID=234for Cat).
>
> > -Raymond Yee
>
> --
> Milan

Milan Andric

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Apr 27, 2007, 6:26:31 PM4/27/07
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On 4/27/07, Raymond Yee <raymo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Apr 26, 11:53 am, "Milan Andric" <mand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > As for dropping a line, I think we also hoped people would post videos
> > as well as comments. Another idea, which I like, is to use a youtube
> > video to link to a fellow's youtube account and post comments/videos
> > there.
>
> As for me, leaving a video commentary poses a relatively large
> barrier. I don't carry around my webcam and the computer I have
> doesn't have one built-in. Maybe I'm just not of the YouTube
> generation, being 40 years old.

I just noticed that on youtube adding a video comment is optional, so
just pointing people to the youtube video should be good enough. And
leaving an email address for the fellow would cover everyone.

What do you think about the frontpage for the blog. The consensus is
it's noisy and messy. Do you have any input on how to navigate people
through this group blog/project outreach page? We're just planning to
simplify.

I figure most of the people who come to this site will want :

1) an answer to some specific question
2) more information about a story/project, and contact
3) to see a showcase of most interesting stuff

>
>
> >
> > I always thought a contact form was more appropriate than leaving a
> > mail address for the spam bots to gobble up. Or we could obfuscate
> > it. Not sure what's preferred ...
>
> I don't have a definitive answer. I understand the need for contact
> forms -- but being able to send email is nice in many circumstances.
> (I like, for instance, being able to look at my email outbox to see a
> record of messages I've sent out.)

I would like to do both, ideally. Will look into that.

Thanks again Raymond,

--
Milan

Raymond Yee

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Apr 27, 2007, 6:42:01 PM4/27/07
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> What do you think about the frontpage for the blog. The consensus is
> it's noisy and messy. Do you have any input on how to navigate people
> through this group blog/project outreach page? We're just planning to
> simplify.
>
> I figure most of the people who come to this site will want :
>
> 1) an answer to some specific question
> 2) more information about a story/project, and contact
> 3) to see a showcase of most interesting stuff
>

Yes, I agree to that list. As for myself, I wanted to know to what
degree the project is active. Seeing a good amount of recent activity
helps. I also don't have a sense of what people are working
on....where in the process are things?

-Raymond

Milan Andric

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Apr 27, 2007, 7:29:43 PM4/27/07
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On 4/27/07, Raymond Yee <raymo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>

I don't think this information is available on the blog, it might not
even be on the radar as something to include. We should think about
that more.

For now the only place to see what's happening is the rough timeline,
which is lacking in detail. Would something like this answer your
question. Maybe we should just change the "Google Groups" link to
"Join the Group" and have another link to the timeline called "Project
Timeline". Would this be more clear?

http://groups.google.com/group/news21ucb/web/timeline (a stub)

In the redesign we will consider making a set of prominent
links/sections. These need some thought/development. I'm trying to
fit things in these groups.

Engage
- mailing list
- project timeline
- story lists with contacts (?)

Community
- links to our affiliates and some description
- aggregation of comments from social sites or some form of syndication
- links to social site groups

Learn (maybe we should create this as a blog category) (?)
- show research notes/process, using blog category
- how the journalists are using their tools and engaging their subjects.
- document useful patterns in the field or in the studio

--
Milan

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