Internet services by the people for the people lecture at iSchool by Jon Udell
kara andrade
Jon Udell
May 2, 1007
Notes by Kara Andrade
I. Introduction
A. previous articles
1. tangled in the threads - early writings on CSS as channels and
characterizing of channels 1999
II. Who gets it?
A. what does it mean to consume and affect services
B. the web can't help but being a collection of services on some level
C. how are people 10 years going to be doing what we're doing now?
1. examples
i. Yahoo Pipes
ii. Tim O'Reilly: pipes and filters for the internet
iii. The services of reliable, archivable storage of files
iv. People should be able to depend on reliable backup services and
have an Eportfolio
v. Think in terms of syndication
D. how to produce a service
1. search engine makeovers, ex. O'Reilly search engine, before and
after
- clean naming conventions to all the work associated with a url
2. LibriVox - new RSS feeds, audio books
3. NhPR - they used YouTube to tag candidate videos
- get people to understand how they can use tagging for organizing
information among URLs.
- Flickr - invite people to tag videos say by their community's
relevance
4. Podcorps.org - to have folks in the community make podcasts of
events in their communities and make them available. For example post
your event on eventful.org and tag it with podcorp
5. Library LookUp - post your amazon list and whatever it is on your
amazon wishlist then it becomes available at the local public library
then they email you
This is what Raymond was talking about!
http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/stories/2002/12/11/librarylookup.html
bookmarklet generator, there were many reincarnations of the thing.
LibraryLookup, Greasemonkey, Internet Explorer
6. Varieties of innovators
i. To what extent can ordinary people appreciate their ability to add
to the collective body of information on the net and to modify it?
ii. What's a more accessible way for people to modify?
- Spontaneous integration
- Recomposition will be taken to another new level
III. Other examples
A. Chicagocrime.org - half the work was getting the data.
B. The DC State Data feeds
C. DCStat data in Swivel
1. what would it be like if people could collaboratively work on
interpretation of data
2. stick the data up and it becomes a social data analysis
3. how much civil discourse goes on in any shared representation of
data. It's more like shoe me your data and I'll show you mine as
opposed to, let's do data together.
4. It would make doing data interesting and fun.
D. DC Stat data in Dabble DB
1. Having data come in as text and it gets sorted that way
2. Bring in data in from the web
3. This is an activity where the result is sharable and discussable
4. Whether or not the wikipedia page is 100 percent correct or all
wrong, the process is full transparent and can be validated and that's
the key point. We can see where it came from and how it got to be what
it is and how people decided on certain sets
5. Even with the computer generated data sets there's mysterious ways
sets of numbers are created. So what about those? Then through the
open data creation these factors are made clear.
6. Trust networks and means for authentication and good housekeeping
grading or approval by people who are developers
7. How do you deal with spam which cripples great ideas?
a. a lot of stuff at the hyperlocal level, this is manageable
E. this business of services by the people is that we go from a
passive/receptacle culture and people start to do things and amazing
things start to happen.
1. Scale, ex. LibriVox
2. Users owning data, like Flickr - separation between data and
services behind it
- there are certain core thing you're going to want to own and control
and want to send out.
Give him a call or email.
Milan Andric
>
> 5. Library LookUp - post your amazon list and whatever it is on your
> amazon wishlist then it becomes available at the local public library
> then they email you
> This is what Raymond was talking about!
>
> http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/stories/2002/12/11/librarylookup.html
>
> bookmarklet generator, there were many reincarnations of the thing.
> LibraryLookup, Greasemonkey, Internet Explorer
>
This thing confuses the shit out of me, but it's just as fascinating!
After I figure out how to hookup an eastbayer with an amazon wishlist
(ahem) I will post a blog entry.
--
Milan