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MajorLanGod
Jan 25, 2021, 1:28:09 PM1/25/21
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How can I make a custom filter in Xnews permanent. Right now, I have to
invoke it every time I want to use it. There are a couple newsgroups that
are being swamped by encripted entries where the author name always starts
with three numerals. I have a custom filter to take care of them, but I
have to invoke it by hand every time. Is there a way to make it permanent
so that it is always run when I open a newsgroup. And yes, I have already
looked at the Xnews User Manual.
invoke it every time I want to use it. There are a couple newsgroups that
are being swamped by encripted entries where the author name always starts
with three numerals. I have a custom filter to take care of them, but I
have to invoke it by hand every time. Is there a way to make it permanent
so that it is always run when I open a newsgroup. And yes, I have already
looked at the Xnews User Manual.
Mike Dee
Jan 25, 2021, 5:10:49 PM1/25/21
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Special > Edit Score File [Ctrl + E] which opens the score file in
Notepad. Hand-edit your scorefile there and save the changes.
When entering scores for all newsgroups, they go under [.]
When entering scores for a particular group they go under the groups
name. For example, this group and a kill score for an individual would
look like something this:
[^news\.software\.readers$]
Score: -9999
From: someone's name
You don't need to write a "From:" for each entry, you can pipe "|"
names across a single line, as in:
From: person 1|person 2|person 3|etc|etc|etc
Does the persons name always use the same 3 numbers? If not, use:
From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]name
In the fine Xnews manual, read the chapters 16 and 17. Especially
chapters 17 for more Regex info which will come in handy when editing
the score file by hand.
--
dee
Sn!pe
Jan 25, 2021, 6:07:58 PM1/25/21
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Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
> --
> dee
hi
--
^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>
My pet rock Gordon just is.
> --
> dee
hi
--
^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>
My pet rock Gordon just is.
Mike Dee
Jan 25, 2021, 6:18:56 PM1/25/21
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Sn!pe wrote:
>
> hi
Hello Sn!pe.
I'm glad to see you're still about in these difficult times.
Me, I'm hanging in there, mostly lurking, WRT usenet. Take care.
--
dee
>
> hi
Hello Sn!pe.
I'm glad to see you're still about in these difficult times.
Me, I'm hanging in there, mostly lurking, WRT usenet. Take care.
--
dee
Sn!pe
Jan 25, 2021, 6:53:56 PM1/25/21
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10 years since I last saw you. I don't know if you knew, but it
was you who shamed me into paying for MacSOUP when I first
switched to Macs and hadn't yet decided which 'reader to use.
Ancient history - what Usenet does best.
You take care too, Mike. <g>
MajorLanGod
Jan 25, 2021, 7:51:08 PM1/25/21
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Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
news:XnsACBE5D5C...@emteedee.invalid:
The problem is that there isn't a single author's name. There are many
names, the only common thing is that the first three characters are
numeric, with is what I based my regex on.
news:XnsACBE5D5C...@emteedee.invalid:
names, the only common thing is that the first three characters are
numeric, with is what I based my regex on.
Mike Dee
Jan 26, 2021, 1:34:55 AM1/26/21
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MajorLanGod wrote:
>> From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]name
>>
>> In the fine Xnews manual, read the chapters 16 and 17. Especially
>> chapters 17 for more Regex info which will come in handy when
>> editing the score file by hand.
>>
>
> The problem is that there isn't a single author's name. There are
> many names, the only common thing is that the first three
> characters are numeric, with is what I based my regex on.
Well, if the numbers remain the same then all you need are the 3
>> From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]name
>>
>> In the fine Xnews manual, read the chapters 16 and 17. Especially
>> chapters 17 for more Regex info which will come in handy when
>> editing the score file by hand.
>>
>
> The problem is that there isn't a single author's name. There are
> many names, the only common thing is that the first three
> characters are numeric, with is what I based my regex on.
numbers
From: ^123
Replace 123 with the actual #'s. The ^ at the beginning, informs Xnews
the from name begins with those numbers. The name changes are of no
importance if the name always begins with those numbers. Xnews will
kill them on those numbers alone.
If the 3 numbers also change, ignore the name and use:
From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
dee
Mike Dee
Jan 26, 2021, 6:36:56 AM1/26/21
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Sn!pe wrote:
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>> > hi
>>
>> Hello Sn!pe.
>>
>> I'm glad to see you're still about in these difficult times.
>>
>> Me, I'm hanging in there, mostly lurking, WRT usenet. Take care.
>
> It's nice to see that you're still here too, it must be more than
> 10 years since I last saw you. I don't know if you knew, but it
> was you who shamed me into paying for MacSOUP when I first
> switched to Macs and hadn't yet decided which 'reader to use.
>
> Ancient history - what Usenet does best.
>
> You take care too, Mike. <g>
I've seen a few of your posts over those last years, I think mainly in
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>> > hi
>>
>> Hello Sn!pe.
>>
>> I'm glad to see you're still about in these difficult times.
>>
>> Me, I'm hanging in there, mostly lurking, WRT usenet. Take care.
>
> It's nice to see that you're still here too, it must be more than
> 10 years since I last saw you. I don't know if you knew, but it
> was you who shamed me into paying for MacSOUP when I first
> switched to Macs and hadn't yet decided which 'reader to use.
>
> Ancient history - what Usenet does best.
>
> You take care too, Mike. <g>
the brit Mac group.
Heh, I think I was taking a dig at the nags MacSoup used to put into
its headers. I wasn't trying to shame you, more commenting on the
humongous clocking up of nags that were in there ;-)
At least, that's what I hope I was doing. I'd hate to think that I may
have been net-nannying :-P
Tho' I'm glad to hear that you purchased MacSoup in the end. I didn't
know it was still being developed. I see you run it on some up-to-date
rig, so I guess it must be.
--
dee
Sn!pe
Jan 26, 2021, 9:04:55 AM1/26/21
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Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
[...]
won't be a 64 bit version. I think he may have even made it
freeware now. I love my MacSOUP though, so I keep a Mojave VM
on my main Big Sur (64 bit only) machine just so I can continue
to use it.
There isn't much choice now for Mac text Newsreaders, although
Usenapp is coming along quite well. I do have T'bird of course,
but I don't rate that very highly.
[...]
>
> Tho' I'm glad to hear that you purchased MacSoup in the end. I didn't
> know it was still being developed. I see you run it on some up-to-date
> rig, so I guess it must be.
>
Unfortunately it's 32 bit and Stefan has already said that there
> Tho' I'm glad to hear that you purchased MacSoup in the end. I didn't
> know it was still being developed. I see you run it on some up-to-date
> rig, so I guess it must be.
>
won't be a 64 bit version. I think he may have even made it
freeware now. I love my MacSOUP though, so I keep a Mojave VM
on my main Big Sur (64 bit only) machine just so I can continue
to use it.
There isn't much choice now for Mac text Newsreaders, although
Usenapp is coming along quite well. I do have T'bird of course,
but I don't rate that very highly.
MajorLanGod
Jan 26, 2021, 10:36:08 AM1/26/21
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Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
news:XnsACBEB2D4...@emteedee.invalid:
I already have a regex that works. My question is rather than having to
enter the filter for every news group, is there a way I can create the
filter and have it be automatically applied to every news group I open?
Mike Dee
Jan 26, 2021, 6:21:27 PM1/26/21
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MajorLanGod wrote:
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
> news:XnsACBEB2D4...@emteedee.invalid:
[...]
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
> news:XnsACBEB2D4...@emteedee.invalid:
>> Well, if the numbers remain the same then all you need are the 3
>> numbers
>>
>> From: ^123
>>
>> Replace 123 with the actual #'s. The ^ at the beginning, informs
>> Xnews the from name begins with those numbers. The name changes
>> are of no importance if the name always begins with those
>> numbers. Xnews will kill them on those numbers alone.
>>
>> If the 3 numbers also change, ignore the name and use:
>>
>> From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
>>
> And where an I supposed to use this? If it is in the custom filter
> page, I already have a regex that works. My question is rather
> than having to enter the filter for every news group, is there a
> way I can create the filter and have it be automatically applied
> to every news group I open?
Instead of using the "Custom Filter" or typing [F9], go instead to
>> numbers
>>
>> From: ^123
>>
>> Replace 123 with the actual #'s. The ^ at the beginning, informs
>> Xnews the from name begins with those numbers. The name changes
>> are of no importance if the name always begins with those
>> numbers. Xnews will kill them on those numbers alone.
>>
>> If the 3 numbers also change, ignore the name and use:
>>
>> From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
>>
> And where an I supposed to use this? If it is in the custom filter
> page, I already have a regex that works. My question is rather
> than having to enter the filter for every news group, is there a
> way I can create the filter and have it be automatically applied
> to every news group I open?
"Special" menu and click "Edit Score File" or type [Ctrl + E]
This opens the score file in Notepad. Hand-edit your scorefile in
there and save the changes.
_When entering scores for ALL newsgroups_, they go under [.] in your
score file.
For example:
[.]
Score: -9999
From: ^123
Copy and paste the above into your score file, if that's all you
need. Change "123" to whatever the numbers are meant to be. If the
numbers are not constant but always in the form of
nnn+some-kind-of-name then use From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
When entering scores for a particular group they go under the groups
name.
individual would look like something this:
[^news\.software\.readers$]
Score: -9999
From: ^123
[^news\.software\.readers$]
Score: -9999
--
dee
Mike Dee
Jan 26, 2021, 7:09:45 PM1/26/21
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I just checked out Stefan's MacSoup page:
<http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/>
"MacSOUP was an NNTP newsreader for Mac that I developed in the
nineties. It is obsolete and no longer available."
Well I guess you won't have to worry about that rego nag any more ;-)
I'm in the same boat. Xnews is long dead. But it's still my favourite
news reader. I think I'll continue to use it for as long as there's a
PC that can it can run on...
--
dee
Sn!pe
Jan 26, 2021, 7:55:57 PM1/26/21
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[N.B. Subject changed]
I recall that Blinky (RIP) was a major fan of Xnews. I did wrestle with
it for a while but in the end it didn't really do the business for me.
BTW, I do have several versions of MacSOUP here; I don't suppose Stefan
would mind too much if I [ahem] asked somebody to look after a security
copy for me... Run as an unregistered copy, it's still fully functional
apart from the nag counting the days. It does require Mac OS X 10.14
(Mojave) or earlier though. To be polite, I could even ask Stefan's
permission to share it.
it for a while but in the end it didn't really do the business for me.
BTW, I do have several versions of MacSOUP here; I don't suppose Stefan
would mind too much if I [ahem] asked somebody to look after a security
copy for me... Run as an unregistered copy, it's still fully functional
apart from the nag counting the days. It does require Mac OS X 10.14
(Mojave) or earlier though. To be polite, I could even ask Stefan's
permission to share it.
MajorLanGod
Jan 28, 2021, 3:17:13 AM1/28/21
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Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
news:XnsACBF6955...@emteedee.invalid:
any three digit number in an apparent random order.
I have a filter that works, but it requires that I open 'Custom Filter',
check invert, check regedit and enter my regedit phrase, then activate.
It works, but it gets old doing it every day for several news groups. So,
once and for all, is there any way to get MY filter to invoke
automatically when I open a news group?
Andy Rodemann
Jan 28, 2021, 5:01:37 AM1/28/21
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Hallo zusammen,
MajorLanGod <lonel...@gmail.com> schrieb:
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
> news:XnsACBF6955...@emteedee.invalid:
>
>> MajorLanGod wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
>>> news:XnsACBEB2D4...@emteedee.invalid:
>> [...]
>>>> Well, if the numbers remain the same then all you need are the 3
>>>> numbers
>>>>
>>>> From: ^123
>>>>
>>>> Replace 123 with the actual #'s. The ^ at the beginning, informs
>>>> Xnews the from name begins with those numbers. The name changes
>>>> are of no importance if the name always begins with those
>>>> numbers. Xnews will kill them on those numbers alone.
>>>>
>>>> If the 3 numbers also change, ignore the name and use:
>>>>
>>>> From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
Or you could use:
From: ^[0-9]{3}
Then use one of the regex given above.
> I have a filter that works, but it requires that I open 'Custom
> Filter', check invert, check regedit and enter my regedit phrase,
> then activate. It works, but it gets old doing it every day for
> several news groups. So, once and for all, is there any way to get MY
> filter to invoke automatically when I open a news group?
Apparently not, so scoring is the thing that would do what you want.
--
bye
andy r.
MajorLanGod <lonel...@gmail.com> schrieb:
> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
> news:XnsACBF6955...@emteedee.invalid:
>
>> MajorLanGod wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote in
>>> news:XnsACBEB2D4...@emteedee.invalid:
>> [...]
>>>> Well, if the numbers remain the same then all you need are the 3
>>>> numbers
>>>>
>>>> From: ^123
>>>>
>>>> Replace 123 with the actual #'s. The ^ at the beginning, informs
>>>> Xnews the from name begins with those numbers. The name changes
>>>> are of no importance if the name always begins with those
>>>> numbers. Xnews will kill them on those numbers alone.
>>>>
>>>> If the 3 numbers also change, ignore the name and use:
>>>>
>>>> From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
From: ^[0-9]{3}
> I have a filter that works, but it requires that I open 'Custom
> Filter', check invert, check regedit and enter my regedit phrase,
> then activate. It works, but it gets old doing it every day for
> several news groups. So, once and for all, is there any way to get MY
> filter to invoke automatically when I open a news group?
--
bye
andy r.
MajorLanGod
Jan 28, 2021, 1:20:49 PM1/28/21
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Andy Rodemann <arnu...@gmx.de> wrote in
news:3aa280eb0dd9d240...@ID-77549.user.uni-berlin.de:
>> You are missing the point. The numbers are not always 123. They can
>> be any three digit number in an apparent random order.
>
> Then use one of the regex given above.
>
>> I have a filter that works, but it requires that I open 'Custom
>> Filter', check invert, check regedit and enter my regedit phrase,
>> then activate. It works, but it gets old doing it every day for
>> several news groups. So, once and for all, is there any way to get MY
>> filter to invoke automatically when I open a news group?
>
> Apparently not, so scoring is the thing that would do what you want.
So pretend I'm learning disabled, and tell me again how to set the score
file to handle ANY three digit number in the first three positions so
they don't show up on the screen. Please
news:3aa280eb0dd9d240...@ID-77549.user.uni-berlin.de:
>> You are missing the point. The numbers are not always 123. They can
>> be any three digit number in an apparent random order.
>
> Then use one of the regex given above.
>
>> I have a filter that works, but it requires that I open 'Custom
>> Filter', check invert, check regedit and enter my regedit phrase,
>> then activate. It works, but it gets old doing it every day for
>> several news groups. So, once and for all, is there any way to get MY
>> filter to invoke automatically when I open a news group?
>
> Apparently not, so scoring is the thing that would do what you want.
file to handle ANY three digit number in the first three positions so
they don't show up on the screen. Please
Mike Dee
Jan 28, 2021, 11:04:54 PM1/28/21
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MajorLanGod wrote:
> You are missing the point. The numbers are not always 123. They
> can be any three digit number in an apparent random order.
I really think that you are.
> You are missing the point. The numbers are not always 123. They
> can be any three digit number in an apparent random order.
You do not need to use the Custom Filter
Edit the score file by hand.
As the numbers change, copy and paste into the score file:
[.]
Score: -9999
From: ^[0-9][0-9][0-9]
Or as Andy Rodemann suggests
From: ^[0-9]{3}
This has been offered to you on a plate since my first response and you
simply failed to get it.
Back to lurking for me. HTH
--
dee
Nil
Jan 29, 2021, 8:20:49 PM1/29/21
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On 28 Jan 2021, MajorLanGod <lonel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news.software.readers:
> So pretend I'm learning disabled, and tell me again how to set the
> score file to handle ANY three digit number in the first three
> positions so they don't show up on the screen. Please
Hit the Ctrl-E to open your score.ini file, if you have one. Add a
recipe to the score file similar to this, then save and exit:
[name of your newsgroup, or "." for all newsgroups]
% kill known trolls
Score:: -9999
Expires: 2/28/2021
From: ^[0-9]{3}
Make sure you have Special | Enable Scoreing and Hard Kill enabled.
This will eliminate from view all posts from anybody who's From: line
starts with three numbers. You can also indicate an expiry date like
above, or eliminate the Expires line to keep it forever.
You can also hit the S key to interact with the score file with a
dialog box.
news.software.readers:
> So pretend I'm learning disabled, and tell me again how to set the
> score file to handle ANY three digit number in the first three
> positions so they don't show up on the screen. Please
recipe to the score file similar to this, then save and exit:
[name of your newsgroup, or "." for all newsgroups]
% kill known trolls
Score:: -9999
Expires: 2/28/2021
From: ^[0-9]{3}
Make sure you have Special | Enable Scoreing and Hard Kill enabled.
This will eliminate from view all posts from anybody who's From: line
starts with three numbers. You can also indicate an expiry date like
above, or eliminate the Expires line to keep it forever.
You can also hit the S key to interact with the score file with a
dialog box.
Mike Dee
Jan 29, 2021, 11:11:27 PM1/29/21
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Sn!pe wrote:
> [N.B. Subject changed]
>
[...]
I still dearly miss him.
Your several versions of MacSoup could go up to
<http://macintoshgarden.org/>
They don't have a copy, so it would be a good addition there, and it
truly appears to be abandoned.
When I used usenet on Mac OS, I was a fan of John Norstad's
NewsWatcher, which he later open-sourced and a few spin-offs from that
emerged, the most successful and my favourite, was Simon Fraser's port,
MT-NewsWatcher.
I see the download site for MT-NewsWatcher and is still avilable:
<http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/>
But I don't think that it has been updated since Mac OS 10.5.x, so what
OS it may run on up to, I couldn't say.
Good to see it's still available for download, tho'.
--
dee
> [N.B. Subject changed]
>
[...]
>
> I recall that Blinky (RIP) was a major fan of Xnews. I did
> wrestle with it for a while but in the end it didn't really do the
> business for me.
>
> BTW, I do have several versions of MacSOUP here; I don't suppose
> Stefan would mind too much if I [ahem] asked somebody to look
> after a security copy for me... Run as an unregistered copy, it's
> still fully functional apart from the nag counting the days. It
> does require Mac OS X 10.14 (Mojave) or earlier though. To be
> polite, I could even ask Stefan's permission to share it.
Hi Sn!pe. Yes, old Blinky was a rock when it came to everything Xnews.
> I recall that Blinky (RIP) was a major fan of Xnews. I did
> wrestle with it for a while but in the end it didn't really do the
> business for me.
>
> BTW, I do have several versions of MacSOUP here; I don't suppose
> Stefan would mind too much if I [ahem] asked somebody to look
> after a security copy for me... Run as an unregistered copy, it's
> still fully functional apart from the nag counting the days. It
> does require Mac OS X 10.14 (Mojave) or earlier though. To be
> polite, I could even ask Stefan's permission to share it.
I still dearly miss him.
Your several versions of MacSoup could go up to
<http://macintoshgarden.org/>
They don't have a copy, so it would be a good addition there, and it
truly appears to be abandoned.
When I used usenet on Mac OS, I was a fan of John Norstad's
NewsWatcher, which he later open-sourced and a few spin-offs from that
emerged, the most successful and my favourite, was Simon Fraser's port,
MT-NewsWatcher.
I see the download site for MT-NewsWatcher and is still avilable:
<http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/>
But I don't think that it has been updated since Mac OS 10.5.x, so what
OS it may run on up to, I couldn't say.
Good to see it's still available for download, tho'.
--
dee
andrew
Jan 30, 2021, 4:52:39 AM1/30/21
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On 2021-01-27, Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recall that Blinky (RIP) was a major fan of Xnews. I did wrestle with
> it for a while but in the end it didn't really do the business for me.
Blinky wrestled with slrn as well from time to time...
> I recall that Blinky (RIP) was a major fan of Xnews. I did wrestle with
> it for a while but in the end it didn't really do the business for me.
Andrew
--
Do you think that's air you're breathing?
Conceited Jerk
Jan 30, 2021, 10:03:16 AM1/30/21
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In article <XnsACC29A84...@emteedee.invalid>,
I can tell you it doesn't run on Mac OS 10.13.6 (I've tried).
Unfortunately, I don't remember the specific reason (been a while). I
was using a Mac reader called Unison, which worked quite well if you can
tolerate the interface.
-CJ
Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
> I see the download site for MT-NewsWatcher and is still avilable:
> <http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/>
> But I don't think that it has been updated since Mac OS 10.5.x, so what
> OS it may run on up to, I couldn't say.
>
> Good to see it's still available for download, tho'.
Sorry to jump in here.
> I see the download site for MT-NewsWatcher and is still avilable:
> <http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/>
> But I don't think that it has been updated since Mac OS 10.5.x, so what
> OS it may run on up to, I couldn't say.
>
> Good to see it's still available for download, tho'.
I can tell you it doesn't run on Mac OS 10.13.6 (I've tried).
Unfortunately, I don't remember the specific reason (been a while). I
was using a Mac reader called Unison, which worked quite well if you can
tolerate the interface.
-CJ
Lewis
Jan 30, 2021, 12:52:54 PM1/30/21
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(System 7.5). It was never updated to use newer networking stacks and so
when Apple removed Open Transport and AppleTalk from macOS in 10.9
(2013) after being deprecated in 10.4 (2005), MTNW stopped working.
--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so, Brain, but I find scratching just makes it worse."
MajorLanGod
Jan 30, 2021, 1:53:18 PM1/30/21
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Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsACC1CEF2...@wheedledeedle.moc:
I want to thank all of your for your help, and especially for your
patience while you tried to pound into my head how things work. I have
followed your suggetions, and everything is just the way I wanted it.
Thank you again.
news:XnsACC1CEF2...@wheedledeedle.moc:
patience while you tried to pound into my head how things work. I have
followed your suggetions, and everything is just the way I wanted it.
Thank you again.
Sn!pe
Jan 30, 2021, 5:08:50 PM1/30/21
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Mike Dee <mik...@emteedee.invalid> wrote:
[...]
[...]
> Your several versions of MacSoup could go up to
> <http://macintoshgarden.org/>
>
> They don't have a copy, so it would be a good addition there,
> and it truly appears to be abandoned.
[...]
> <http://macintoshgarden.org/>
>
> They don't have a copy, so it would be a good addition there,
> and it truly appears to be abandoned.
That's a nice idea, Mike, I'll look into it.
Conceited Jerk
Jan 31, 2021, 10:29:48 AM1/31/21
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In article <slrns1b77l....@m1mini.local>,
That rings a bell, thanks.
-CJ
-CJ
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