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Piotr Karocki

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Jun 11, 2009, 5:53:25 AM6/11/09
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Guy <Use-Reply-To-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
news:9C26DFFDBED7DEAC2E...@127.0.0.1:
> 2009.05.01:
Welcome back!

If you would have (enough) time, please also add:
* MIME Base64 subject decoding
* when in reading article - <space> to add article to queue

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John Wunderlich

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Jun 11, 2009, 11:08:34 AM6/11/09
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Guy <Use-Reply-To-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
news:9C26DFFDBED7DEAC2E...@127.0.0.1:

> <http://xnews.newsguy.com>
>
> o = bug fix
>+ = addition
> x = change
>
> 2009.05.01:
>
>+ this is a test version to support > 2^31 article numbers.
> Apparently, the Dutch dump groups (ugh) have passed the threshold.
> I guess sooner or later, the other groups will follow so I should
> do something about it.(Please expect bugs galore. If this is not
> an issue for you, no need to bother with this version.)
>

Thanks, Guy, for bringing that to my attention.
I've long ago given up hope for another update :-)
(Has it really been sitting there for a month?)

-- John

Mike Dee

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Jun 11, 2009, 8:42:55 PM6/11/09
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Guy wrote:

> <http://xnews.newsguy.com>

Great to know that Luu hasn't left the planet! I'd better head off to
newsguy next.

Thanks, Guy.

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_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Jul 11, 2009, 1:12:42 AM7/11/09
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unSigned subtraction is wacky, what's “ 2 - 0xFFFFFFFF ” ?

No, for Visual C++, it's better to use:
__int64 _wtoi64() and L"Article %I64d\r\n".

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Mike Yetto

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Dec 3, 2009, 8:20:34 PM12/3/09
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Bada bing The REAL Joe Blow <j...@blow.com> bada bang:

> Guy <Use-Reply-To-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
> news:9C26DFFDBED7DEAC2E...@127.0.0.1:
>
>><http://xnews.newsguy.com>
>>
>> o = bug fix
>> + = addition
>> x = change
>>
>> 2009.05.01:
>>
>> + this is a test version to support > 2^31 article numbers.
>> Apparently, the Dutch dump groups (ugh) have passed the threshold.
>> I guess sooner or later, the other groups will follow so I should
>> do something about it.(Please expect bugs galore. If this is not
>> an issue for you, no need to bother with this version.)
>>
>
> It doesn't work for me.
>
> Unfortunately it does not solve the problem - When I "open special" a
> group, it still shows a 50,000,000 limit for retrieving the headers.
>

It is not a fix for the problem you described. It has to do with
very large article numbers not very large numbers of articles.

> When I try with a clean newsrc, it still only goes back 50M headers.
>
> for example: alt.binaries.tv on giganews has 400+ days of retention, going
> back to sometime in August 2008. When I use Agent, it can get those
> 131,000,000 headers no problem all the way back to August.
>

Xnews was never able to handle that many articles and the attempt
should not be made. Use a newsreader or downloader oriented
towards binaries.

> Xnews (including the test version) on the otherhand only goes back to May
> 05, 2009.
>
> Does anyone actually see this working on WinXP32SP3?

The phenomenon you describes works the same way everywhere.

Mike "right pew, wrong church" Yetto
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In practice they are not.

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Mike Yetto

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Jan 11, 2010, 8:12:09 AM1/11/10
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Bada bing The REAL Joe Blow <j...@blow.com> bada bang:
> Well, since it appears I'm mistaken, would it be *possible* to address
> this issue?
>
> I do *NOT* want to load 50M+ headers at one time, I want to load ~500k at
> a time which is easily manageable on a modern computer, but I *DO* want to
> be able to load the oldest articles, and because of some programming
> limitation, Xnews won't let me go back that far.
>
> Agent has no problem with 100M+ articles, but it really sucks compared to
> Xnews if a person has been using Xnews for over a decade, but really,
> we're at an impass here. Xnews's developer won't address the issue to
> retrieve the older articles; and Agen't developers won't address their
> issues to make Agent more Xnews like in its ability to easily handle
> discrete blocks of articles (like retrieving 500,000 at a time)
>
> PLEASE?
>

Unless I'm mistaken about no work-around available, it seems you
will have to wait for Luu Tran to decide this can and should be
fixed.

Mike "not impossible, probable?" Yetto

Mark

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:23:46 AM1/11/10
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You can call yourself a creative genius when you've done what I've done.
My walls are covered with the first run editions of /intricate valuable
artwork/. I have the originals safely stored away too. All these pieces
were commissioned before they were started, and they represent thousands
of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the same artist. Me
--
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scratch golfer/cat wrangler and observer of the mundane.
And much much more including wealthy beyond anything you can imagine.
My website http://www.hosanna1.com/

Mike Yetto

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:51:06 AM1/11/10
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Bada bing Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> bada bang:

> You can call yourself a creative genius when you've done what I've done.
> My walls are covered with the first run editions of /intricate valuable
> artwork/. I have the originals safely stored away too. All these pieces
> were commissioned before they were started, and they represent thousands
> of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the same artist. Me

Even if I were to accept what you wrote as valid, what does that
have to do with the Xnews problem being discussed?

I wouldn't use "genius" for someone who barges into an existing
conversation rather than trying to start a new one.

Mike "they only represent the revenue you've collected" Yetto

Mark

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Jan 11, 2010, 3:23:46 PM1/11/10
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"Yetto"?

Three thousand people were minding their
own business. Women, children, friendly Americans.
Then the WORLD TRADE CENTER towers crashed and
slammed to the ground in a FIRE of MURDER by
coward muslims. Now...We're gonna KILL YOU motherfuckers
if it takes 100 years. Because we're AMERICANS.
We are the top dogs of the world. And the muslims
are gonna pay one million times over if we have
to *kill every fucking one of you*.

*Locked and loaded, Mark*

Mike Yetto

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Jan 11, 2010, 3:43:10 PM1/11/10
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Bada bing Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> bada bang:
> "Yetto"?
>
> <snip mindless blather>
>

My surname seems to have set off some type of fugue state
within your psyche. Just where do you think I am, or where my
family is from, or where the name originated?

Mike "you're probably wrong" Yetto

Dan C

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:36:59 PM1/11/10
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On 2010-01-11, Mark wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:51:06 -0500, Mike Yetto wrote:
>
>> Bada bing Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> bada bang:
>>> You can call yourself a creative genius when you've done what I've done.
>>> My walls are covered with the first run editions of /intricate valuable
>>> artwork/. I have the originals safely stored away too. All these pieces
>>> were commissioned before they were started, and they represent thousands
>>> of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the same artist. Me
>>
>> Even if I were to accept what you wrote as valid, what does that
>> have to do with the Xnews problem being discussed?
>>
>> I wouldn't use "genius" for someone who barges into an existing
>> conversation rather than trying to start a new one.
>>
>> Mike "they only represent the revenue you've collected" Yetto
>
> "Yetto"?
>
> Three thousand people were minding their
> own business. Women, children, friendly Americans.
> Then the WORLD TRADE CENTER towers crashed and
> slammed to the ground in a FIRE of MURDER by
> coward muslims. Now...We're gonna KILL YOU motherfuckers
> if it takes 100 years. Because we're AMERICANS.
> We are the top dogs of the world. And the muslims
> are gonna pay one million times over if we have
> to *kill every fucking one of you*.
>
> *Locked and loaded, Mark*

Dude. Put the fucking crack pipe down for a while...


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Mike Yetto

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Jan 12, 2010, 7:55:34 AM1/12/10
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Bada bing Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> bada bang:

Dan, here's someone who really needs his hard-drive reformatted.

Mike "not referring to his computer" Yetto

Dan C

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Jan 12, 2010, 9:16:19 AM1/12/10
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On 2010-01-12, Mike Yetto wrote:
>>> *Locked and loaded, Mark*

>> Dude. Put the fucking crack pipe down for a while...

> Dan, here's someone who really needs his hard-drive reformatted.

I think he needs a lot more than that...

Mike Dee

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:11:38 AM1/12/10
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In article <4b4b88d4$1...@news.x-privat.org>,
Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> *Locked and loaded, Mark*

Dunno what planet you're living on but I'm sure glad it isn't mine.

> --
[...]
> My website...

No thanks.

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Dan C

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:29:09 AM1/12/10
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:23:46 -0500, Mark wrote:

> Three thousand people were minding their own business. Women, children,
> friendly Americans. Then the WORLD TRADE CENTER towers crashed and
> slammed to the ground in a FIRE of MURDER by coward muslims. Now...We're
> gonna KILL YOU motherfuckers if it takes 100 years. Because we're
> AMERICANS. We are the top dogs of the world. And the muslims are gonna
> pay one million times over if we have to *kill every fucking one of
> you*.
>
> *Locked and loaded, Mark*

OK, so you're a fucking whacko. You left that off your list of
"occupations" in your sig.

Your "website" looks like a fucking abortion. I honestly cannot recall
seeing a more stupid-looking page in the last several years.

Pathetic.

Bert Hyman

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:35:20 AM1/12/10
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In news:pan.2010.01...@moria.lan Dan C
<youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:

> Your "website" looks like a fucking abortion. I honestly cannot
> recall seeing a more stupid-looking page in the last several years.

Odd that he goes to the trouble of posting through an anonymizer but
posts his Website which has public registration info.

--
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Mike Dee

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:36:32 AM1/12/10
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Mark wrote:

> You can call yourself a creative genius when you've done what I've done.
> My walls are covered with the first run editions of /intricate valuable
> artwork/. I have the originals safely stored away too. All these pieces
> were commissioned before they were started, and they represent thousands
> of dollars in revenue. They were all done by the same artist. Me

Commissioned by who? I mean, who'd want any "twitchy-eyed" Wanted Posters,
besides your local Post office?

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dee

Mike Dee

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Jan 12, 2010, 10:41:36 AM1/12/10
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Bert Hyman wrote:

> Odd that he goes to the trouble of posting through an anonymizer but
> posts his Website which has public registration info.

Odd, sums it up for me.

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dee

Mark

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:26:04 AM1/12/10
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The closest I got to a Post Office was convincing the
chairman of the bank and head of the Georgia Republican
party to fly to Washington, D.C. and within 3 days
bring me a Small Business Admin. check for 350 thousand dollars.

Mark

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:40:06 AM1/12/10
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I don't have a degree in IT, so maybe if I did then
this "genius" thing which I've been assigned might
be put to better use on this subject. I have a gift
for looking past the obvious and discussing the abstract.
I'm 54 years old and am well aware of what schizophrenia
is, and it's various manifestations apart from other
psychological abberations.

Mark

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:41:22 AM1/12/10
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On 12 Jan 2010 15:29:09 GMT, Dan C wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:23:46 -0500, Mark wrote:
>
>> Three thousand people were minding their own business. Women, children,
>> friendly Americans. Then the WORLD TRADE CENTER towers crashed and
>> slammed to the ground in a FIRE of MURDER by coward muslims. Now...We're
>> gonna KILL YOU motherfuckers if it takes 100 years. Because we're
>> AMERICANS. We are the top dogs of the world. And the muslims are gonna
>> pay one million times over if we have to *kill every fucking one of
>> you*.
>>
>> *Locked and loaded, Mark*
>
> OK, so you're a fucking whacko. You left that off your list of
> "occupations" in your sig.
>
> Your "website" looks like a fucking abortion. I honestly cannot recall
> seeing a more stupid-looking page in the last several years.
>
> Pathetic.

LOL! Below a "before" picture from the Saddam Hussein
playbook. Can you say collateral damage?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1166/1282100811_95071af095.jpg

Mark

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:42:22 AM1/12/10
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On 12 Jan 2010 15:35:20 GMT, Bert Hyman wrote:

> In news:pan.2010.01...@moria.lan Dan C
> <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Your "website" looks like a fucking abortion. I honestly cannot
>> recall seeing a more stupid-looking page in the last several years.
>
> Odd that he goes to the trouble of posting through an anonymizer but
> posts his Website which has public registration info.

No one can get within a quarter mile of me without
a warrant. I'm very hard to access and my critter
cameras record everything that happens around here.
FYI.

Mark

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:43:57 AM1/12/10
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If a beehive is agitated, you'll have a mess on your hands.
You're probably gonna get stung, so call in the professionals.
They dress in white and methodically approach the hive.
Then, they blow smoke up the bees ass, which calms them down.
Now you can handle the situation. This is how mental health works.
*******Mark of the Forest********

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Mark

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Jan 12, 2010, 12:23:34 PM1/12/10
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:00:51 +0100, houghi wrote:

> ["Followup-To:" header set to news.software.readers.]


> Mark wrote:
>> On 12 Jan 2010 15:29:09 GMT, Dan C wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:23:46 -0500, Mark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Three thousand people were minding their own business. Women, children,
>>>> friendly Americans. Then the WORLD TRADE CENTER towers crashed and
>>>> slammed to the ground in a FIRE of MURDER by coward muslims. Now...We're
>>>> gonna KILL YOU motherfuckers if it takes 100 years. Because we're
>>>> AMERICANS. We are the top dogs of the world. And the muslims are gonna
>>>> pay one million times over if we have to *kill every fucking one of
>>>> you*.
>>>>
>>>> *Locked and loaded, Mark*
>>>
>>> OK, so you're a fucking whacko. You left that off your list of
>>> "occupations" in your sig.
>>>
>>> Your "website" looks like a fucking abortion. I honestly cannot recall
>>> seeing a more stupid-looking page in the last several years.
>>>
>>> Pathetic.
>>
>> LOL! Below a "before" picture from the Saddam Hussein
>> playbook. Can you say collateral damage?
>>
>> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1166/1282100811_95071af095.jpg
>

> Wait what? We were talking about 9/11 and WTC. What has Sadam Hussein to
> do with that? And if you want to kill all the muslims, isn't it easier
> to start a bit closer at home? Just deport those people you are against
> to some place and kill them all.

Look here boyo...if you or anyone else puts a muslim
propaganda post here, I'm gonna put 10 posts against it.
If you put ten, I'll put a hundred. If you put a hundred,
I'll put a thousand. So tell your sandnigger friends they're
responsible for the ANTI campaign that follows.

Mike Yetto

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Jan 13, 2010, 7:56:06 AM1/13/10
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Bada bing Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> bada bang:
> I don't have a degree in IT, so maybe if I did then
> this "genius" thing which I've been assigned might
> be put to better use on this subject. I have a gift
> for looking past the obvious and discussing the abstract.
> I'm 54 years old and am well aware of what schizophrenia
> is, and it's various manifestations apart from other
> psychological abberations.

The question that remains is, do you know what non-sequitur
means?

Mike "not a virtual sequential access method" Yetto

Harold Stevens

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Jan 13, 2010, 10:34:04 AM1/13/10
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In <slrn201001130751...@may.eternal-september.org> Mike Yetto:

[Snip...]

> The question that remains is, do you know what non-sequitur means?

Someone's done whites and watched "A Beautiful Mind" a tad too much?

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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:56:06 -0500, Mike Yetto wrote:

> Bada bing Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> bada bang:
>> I don't have a degree in IT, so maybe if I did then
>> this "genius" thing which I've been assigned might
>> be put to better use on this subject. I have a gift
>> for looking past the obvious and discussing the abstract.
>> I'm 54 years old and am well aware of what schizophrenia
>> is, and it's various manifestations apart from other
>> psychological abberations.
>
> The question that remains is, do you know what non-sequitur
> means?
>
> Mike "not a virtual sequential access method" Yetto

Gosh we have multiple morons arguing all over the place these days.

Mark

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Jan 13, 2010, 1:31:13 PM1/13/10
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:56:06 -0500, Mike Yetto wrote:

> Bada bing Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> bada bang:
>> I don't have a degree in IT, so maybe if I did then
>> this "genius" thing which I've been assigned might
>> be put to better use on this subject. I have a gift
>> for looking past the obvious and discussing the abstract.
>> I'm 54 years old and am well aware of what schizophrenia
>> is, and it's various manifestations apart from other
>> psychological abberations.
>
> The question that remains is, do you know what non-sequitur
> means?
>
> Mike "not a virtual sequential access method" Yetto

Doesn't work like that and I know from my work at
MIT on the Jupiter speech synthesis engines.

Yes, as an organism you rely simply on innate
predilections which lend themselves to an expedient
survival, all the while subconsciously operating
under a nonprofessed karma system. That's your
problem.

Spamblk

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Jan 13, 2010, 10:04:13 PM1/13/10
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I use Xnews and as I only downloaded 500 headers this may have already been
answered and I haven't seen it.

There is on the "open special" window, 3 long dialog boxes and the middle
one is highlighted in green. Click the reset button to the right of it .
Then above and to the left of reset is a dialog box marked get and inside
the box a number. Overwrite this number to the number of articles you
actually want to retrieve.

>>>> It doesn't work for me.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it does not solve the problem - When I "open special"
>>>> a group, it still shows a 50,000,000 limit for retrieving the
>>>> headers.
<snip...>

>> PLEASE?
>
> Refresh Headers Special (Ctrl+F5)

Mike Dee

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Jan 14, 2010, 5:10:58 AM1/14/10
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Mark wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:41:36 +1100, Mike Dee wrote:
>
>> Bert Hyman wrote:
>>
>>> Odd that he goes to the trouble of posting through an anonymizer but
>>> posts his Website which has public registration info.
>>
>> Odd, sums it up for me.
>
> If a beehive is agitated, you'll have a mess on your hands.
> You're probably gonna get stung, so call in the professionals.
> They dress in white and methodically approach the hive.
> Then, they blow smoke up the bees ass, which calms them down.

Up the bees ass? No, generally a bee keeper will lift the lid off the
top of the hive for easy access to the honey. That is when smoke is
employed, blowing it over the opened hive from the top. Getting smoke up
an individual bee's ass would be time consuming and not at all cost
effective.

--
dee

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