Xnews - "Cannot open clipboard."

[Mardon]

Occasionally, when I click on an article containing an image
attachment the photo does not get displayed but instead an Xnews
error message window pops up that reads "Cannot open clipboard."

I can only get rid of the problem by rebooting the computer. Killing
Xnews and restarting does not solve it. Once I reboot, it may not
happen again for several days. Before this began occurring a couple
weeks ago, I had been using Xnews for several months without any
problem.

I see that there was another thread started on Feb 11 regarding this
problem but there was no resolution listed.

I'm using Xnews v2005.10.18. My OS is XP Pro, version 5.1.2600 SP 2
Build 2600 on a HP xw6200 workstation with 5 GB RAM, dual 3.6 Xeon's
and lots of available disk storage.

[changling]

Mardon <mgb7...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns97C06E008166Dm...@140.99.99.130:

if rebooting the operating system fixes the problem then one would
assume that it is operating system problem.

have you installed any new software or hardware lately?

[John Wunderlich]

Mardon <mgb7...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns97C06E008166Dm...@140.99.99.130:

> Occasionally, when I click on an article containing an image

IIRC, the clipboard is used as a place for Xnews to hold the picture in
order to display it. You might try to add the line:
Jpeg=0
to the Xnews.ini file to disable Xnews' internal display feature, then
set up Xnews to use an external image viewer/program to view graphic
attachments.

HTH,
John

[Mike Yetto]

It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,
when Mardon wrote...

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=30&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=Cannot+open+clipboard&as_oq=&as_eq=google&as_ugroup=news.software.readers&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=lang_en&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2006&safe=off

It seems to be related to clipboard utilities not working and
playing well with Xnews.

Mike "STFW" Yetto
--
"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free
government ought to be to trust no man living with power to
endanger the public liberty."
- John Adams

[Robert Singers]

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea changling said

> if rebooting the operating system fixes the problem then one would
> assume that it is operating system problem.
>
> have you installed any new software or hardware lately?

You assume it's an O/S problem but you ask about everything else. Are
you confused?

--
rob singers
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[Eggs Zachtly]

Robert Singers said:

> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea changling said
>
>> if rebooting the operating system fixes the problem then one would
>> assume that it is operating system problem.
>>
>> have you installed any new software or hardware lately?
>
> You assume it's an O/S problem but you ask about everything else. Are
> you confused?

Dood, it's Windows. Everything you install has an effect on the OS, due to
the Registry.

--
Eggs

-What do you call a fish with no eyes? ... A fsh

[changling]

Robert Singers <rsin...@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns97C1D2DDEB833rsingers@IP-Hidden:

> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea changling said
>
>> if rebooting the operating system fixes the problem then one would
>> assume that it is operating system problem.
>>
>> have you installed any new software or hardware lately?
>
> You assume it's an O/S problem but you ask about everything else. Are
> you confused?
>

you are the one that is confused.
I never said "I assumed", I said "one would assume"

[Mardon]

Mike Yetto <mike....@nycap.invalid> wrote:

> It seems to be related to clipboard utilities not working and
> playing well with Xnews.
> Mike "STFW" Yetto

Thanks, Mike. From the information at the link you posted, it seems
like this is a problem that has existed for several years and quite a
lot of people have experienced it. I'm not running any 'special'
clipboard utility but I do have Office 2000 installed and I see that
several of the posts about this problem point to some adverse
relationship between Xnews, running Office 2000 programs and the
clipboard. There's several ideas that I'll check on. It's entirely
possible that the problem may have only been occurring while an
Office program is open. I leave Outlook 2000 open a lot. I also
noticed since my OP that Xnews can sometimes start working again
without a reboot. I never noticed that before. Maybe it's because I
had shut down Outlook. At least I now have something to go on and a
few other things to watch. Thanks again.

[Mardon]

John Wunderlich <jwund...@lycos.com> wrote

> IIRC, the clipboard is used as a place for Xnews to hold the
> picture in order to display it. You might try to add the line:
> Jpeg=0
> to the Xnews.ini file to disable Xnews' internal display
> feature, then set up Xnews to use an external image
> viewer/program to view graphic attachments.
>
> HTH,
> John

Thanks for the 'work-around', John, but I think it would be a hassle
to have to view images in a separate app. The Xnews problem is
sporadic, so I'd rather put up with it right now than create a
separate viewer. I'm also checking out the possible problem with MS
Office as suggested by Mike.

[Mardon]

changling <all...@goesehere.net> wrote:

> if rebooting the operating system fixes the problem then one
> would assume that it is operating system problem.
> have you installed any new software or hardware lately?

NO hardware but I'm always installing software; esp. MS patches! :(

I doubt that it's an OS problem. No application other than Xnews is
misbehaving and, according to the link that Mike posted
(http://tinyurl.com/32tlp ), the symptoms that I'm experiencing have
been experienced by other people as far back as 2002.

[Mike Yetto]

It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,
when Mardon wrote...

> I'm not running any 'special' clipboard utility but I do have

> Office 2000 installed and I see that several of the posts about
> this problem point to some adverse relationship between Xnews,
> running Office 2000 programs and the clipboard.

Office 2000 has a special clipboard utility, but it can be turned
off.

Mike "at least enough for me to ignore it" Yetto

[Robert Singers]

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly said

>> You assume it's an O/S problem but you ask about everything else.
>> Are you confused?
>
> Dood, it's Windows. Everything you install has an effect on the OS,
> due to the Registry.

Dude, I dare say that I have more experience with Windows than anyone
else here - from Windows 3.0 to Windows 2003 Datacentre, and most of
what I read people saying on Usenet about Windows is absolute rubbish.
I also hire and manage people who support people using Windows. Pretty
much everything changling has posted is absolute rubbish, and he's doing
a disservice to the original posters.

[Eggs Zachtly]

Robert Singers said:

> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly said
>
>>> You assume it's an O/S problem but you ask about everything else.
>>> Are you confused?
>>
>> Dood, it's Windows. Everything you install has an effect on the OS,
>> due to the Registry.
>
> Dude, I dare say that I have more experience with Windows than anyone
> else here - from Windows 3.0 to Windows 2003 Datacentre, and most of
> what I read people saying on Usenet about Windows is absolute rubbish.

Saying that the Registry is the worst thing about Windows is not "rubbish".

Somewhere, I still have every version of Windows, from 1.0 to 2K (not to
mention, MSDOS 1.0 thru 6.22 (excluding 1.25, I missed that one, but it was
only out a few months before 2.0)). So, I guess I go farther back than you
do. =P

But, I'll stand by my statement. The Registry is Windows' biggest downfall.

--
Eggs

-A conscience is what hurts when all of your other parts feel so good.

[Robert Singers]

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly said

> Robert Singers said:
>
>> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly said
>>
>>>> You assume it's an O/S problem but you ask about everything else.
>>>> Are you confused?
>>>
>>> Dood, it's Windows. Everything you install has an effect on the OS,
>>> due to the Registry.
>>
>> Dude, I dare say that I have more experience with Windows than anyone
>> else here - from Windows 3.0 to Windows 2003 Datacentre, and most of
>> what I read people saying on Usenet about Windows is absolute
>> rubbish.
>
> Saying that the Registry is the worst thing about Windows is not
> "rubbish".

No, but you didn't say that. I've snipped nothing so you can see. I
might even agree with you, slightly. Not being able to _easily_ backup
and restore the registry is the worse thing. I recently had to do a
full rebuild of a server because the software hive was corrupt. Full
daily backups weren't even of any help. Which reminds me I must build
something for booting into recovery console and archiving all the hives.

> Somewhere, I still have every version of Windows, from 1.0 to 2K (not
> to mention, MSDOS 1.0 thru 6.22 (excluding 1.25, I missed that one,
> but it was only out a few months before 2.0)). So, I guess I go
> farther back than you do. =P

LOL. I was using CP/M and VMS before Windows. I may have used version
of Windows prior to 2.0 but I wasn't supporting it. let's not even talk
about OS/2 and CTOS.

But anyway you'll only impress me if you've got them all as working
virtual machines. To hand I have MSDOS6.22\Win3.11, Win95, Win98SE,
WinME, Windows NT Workstation and Server, Windows 2000 workstation and
server, and possibly Windows 2003 server. The Win9x series are
especially useful for running old directx games.

> But, I'll stand by my statement. The Registry is Windows' biggest
> downfall.

Nah users are ;-)

[Mike Yetto]

It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,

when Robert Singers wrote...

> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly
> said
>
>> Robert Singers said:
>>

These pissing contests get old very fast. You can both make claims
about your "Iron Shirt" geek fu, but I don't really believe any of
it.

I've used CP/M, MS-DOS <small number>, DOS/VSE, VM/CMS, MVS, OS/360,
OS/370, OS/390, OS/2, NT... So fucking what.

Mike "get over yourselves" Yetto

[Eggs Zachtly]

Mike Yetto said:

> It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,
> when Robert Singers wrote...
>
>> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly
>> said
>>
>>> Robert Singers said:
>>>
>
> These pissing contests get old very fast. You can both make claims
> about your "Iron Shirt" geek fu, but I don't really believe any of
> it.
>
> I've used CP/M, MS-DOS <small number>, DOS/VSE, VM/CMS, MVS, OS/360,
> OS/370, OS/390, OS/2, NT... So fucking what.
>

Little edgy today are we, Mike? =P

Eggs "my dad can beat up your dad" Zachtly

--
Eggs

-Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks.

[Frank Slootweg]

Mike Yetto <mike....@nycap.invalid> wrote:
> It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,
> when Robert Singers wrote...
>
> > Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Eggs Zachtly
> > said
> >
> >> Robert Singers said:
> >>
>
> These pissing contests get old very fast. You can both make claims
> about your "Iron Shirt" geek fu, but I don't really believe any of
> it.
>
> I've used CP/M, MS-DOS <small number>, DOS/VSE, VM/CMS, MVS, OS/360,
> OS/370, OS/390, OS/2, NT... So fucking what.
>
> Mike "get over yourselves" Yetto

Well, it invalidated yet another of Singers' silly claims, so there
was *some* good in it, no?

> Mike "get over yourselves" Yetto

Frank "Can 'win' Singers' second pissing contest." Slootweg

[Robert Singers]

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Mike Yetto said

> These pissing contests get old very fast. You can both make claims
> about your "Iron Shirt" geek fu, but I don't really believe any of
> it.

Wrong side of the bed this morning?

[Robert Singers]

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Frank Slootweg said

> Well, it invalidated yet another of Singers' silly claims, so there
> was *some* good in it, no?

Grow up Frank.

[Frank Slootweg]

Robert Singers <rsin...@finger.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Frank Slootweg said
>
> > Well, it invalidated yet another of Singers' silly claims, so there
> > was *some* good in it, no?
>
> Grow up Frank.

Thanks for the giggle. Pathetic really, but still somewhat funny.

[Bill Clark]

Eggs Zachtly <r...@d.thereplyto.header> wrote in
news:1n55rpf9...@sneupie.eingang.org:

> Somewhere, I still have every version of Windows, from 1.0

I remember playing with 1.0 on a 2 meg laptop, while running Desqview
for real work... <g>

--
-bc-

[Bill Clark]

Mike Yetto <mike....@nycap.invalid> wrote in
news:Xns97C1E2635...@syrcnyrdrs-02-ge0.nyroc.rr.com:

> I've used CP/M, MS-DOS <small number>, DOS/VSE, VM/CMS, MVS, OS/360,
> OS/370, OS/390, OS/2, NT... So fucking what.

No Autocoder on 1400 series mainframes?

--
-bc-

[Mike Yetto]

It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,

when Bill Clark wrote...

Nooooo, you DID NOT mention Aut^W

Mike "bah" Yetto

[Eggs Zachtly]

Mike Yetto said:

> It was April the forty-first, being a quadruple leap year,
> when Bill Clark wrote...
>
>> Mike Yetto <mike....@nycap.invalid> wrote in
>> news:Xns97C1E2635...@syrcnyrdrs-02-ge0.nyroc.rr.com:
>>
>>> I've used CP/M, MS-DOS <small number>, DOS/VSE, VM/CMS, MVS,
>>> OS/360, OS/370, OS/390, OS/2, NT... So fucking what.
>>
>> No Autocoder on 1400 series mainframes?
>>
>
> Nooooo, you DID NOT mention Aut^W
>
> Mike "bah" Yetto

*SPEW*

--
Eggs

-Buy one for the price of two and get the second one free!

[Gene E. Bloch]

Bill Clark <curmu...@senilityis.us> wrote in
news:Xns97C2792644462cu...@198.186.192.200:

No, but FAP on 7090 and MAP on 7094 (I did have a buddy who found it
more convenient to code in machine language on the 1400 than in
Autocoder).

This was back when one big deal was going from a 2 microsecond cycle
time to 1 microsecond. It was a real leap forward when citing speed in
frequencies got to be more convenient than using cycle times :-)

Mostly I only lurk here so I can (try to) learn how to make my
newsreading easier, so - Hi, guys.

Gino

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) ... letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

[XP User]

Ok so now that the testosterone has had some time to calm down here...

Nutshell: I'm having the same "Cannot Open Clipboard" issue on my WIn
2k3 Server (all latest Service packs and hotfixes) and I do not have
any special 3rd party software on it - in fact it's a Domain Controller
for my network at home...

So Office is ruled out...
3rd party apps - gone.. (aside from Xnews)
And to throw EVERYTHING into a loop, I use Xnews via Remote Desktop so
I'm not even in front of the server here...

What's odd is I wonder if how the pic was posted encoding wise had
anything to do with it as it typically only happens with JPG pics and I
can find groups it works fine with and others you can't even view one
pic of. Even add to it that I can fix the problem as it typically
stops trying to DL that message at a few % - and if you click Stop -
you can move onto the next pic. No needing to reboot... It gets bad
enough that I've wanted to look for another NNTP alternative but none
seem to offer that double click the post to decode and view the pic
internally to the news reader yet...

[Robert Singers]

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea XP User said

> Ok so now that the testosterone has had some time to calm down here...
>
> Nutshell: I'm having the same "Cannot Open Clipboard" issue on my WIn
> 2k3 Server (all latest Service packs and hotfixes) and I do not have
> any special 3rd party software on it - in fact it's a Domain Controller
> for my network at home...

So it's happening on an XP workstation and the W2K3 DC; I'd have a look at
GPOs then and see what you're disabling.

If you install http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=
0a6d4c24-8cbd-4b35-9272-dd3cbfc81887&DisplayLang=en you'll be able to get
some prettier reports.