Servers that Sell by the Gig?
Sqwertz
can't find another group to post this (news.* is a big clusterfuck).
What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
than by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that
will last me into the next century since I mostly only use text
groups. I'll leave the rest in my will.
TIA,
-sw
Whiskers
Don't most of the big outfits offer 'unexpiring block accounts'?
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Bert Hyman
<swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:
> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
> than by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that
> will last me into the next century since I mostly only use text
> groups. I'll leave the rest in my will.
http://www.octanews.com/pricing.php
See "Block accounts"
But, while I think they're "reputable", I don't know how reliable their
business office is; I've seen recent complaints about lack of response
to account issues. And, the last entry on the "Status" page is from
2007. On the other hand, the server's up and running.
But if you're ->only interested in text groups, there are free servers
available.
http://www.eternal-september.org/
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
chuckcar
news:Xns9C3E96E7268...@204.153.245.22:
> In news:llnavzxvwrrx$.d...@sqwertz.com Sqwertz
> <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:
>
>> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
>> than by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that
>> will last me into the next century since I mostly only use text
>> groups. I'll leave the rest in my will.
>
> http://www.octanews.com/pricing.php
>
> See "Block accounts"
>
They've also got just about the fewest groups carried of any of them.
> But, while I think they're "reputable", I don't know how reliable their
> business office is; I've seen recent complaints about lack of response
> to account issues. And, the last entry on the "Status" page is from
> 2007. On the other hand, the server's up and running.
>
> But if you're ->only interested in text groups, there are free servers
> available.
>
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
Along with at least 4 others I could name. A simple google search will
probably yield them all easily.
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(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
Sqwertz
> On 2009-07-04, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted> wrote:
>> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
>> than by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that
>> will last me into the next century since I mostly only use text
>> groups. I'll leave the rest in my will.
>
> Don't most of the big outfits offer 'unexpiring block accounts'?
Nope. Most don't. Not any of the ones I consider "big".
-sw
Sqwertz
> But if you're ->only interested in text groups, there are free servers
> available.
>
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
I'm familiar with Motz/E-S and Aioe. I'm posting from or the other
right now. But I need something more reliable. Motz/E-S has a lot
of missing posts. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn into a pay
provider as individual.net did.
Plus I do have two groups of non-multipart binaries I sometimes
read, very low bandwidth there. Motz actually does carry one of
them, but only the text posts.
-sw
Sqwertz
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
>> than by the month?
>
> http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get
>
> 2 gigs, 2 bucks. Very good servers, I've used them for years.
Thanks. Maybe I'll splurge and get 3 gigs for a dollar more ;-)
I'll look at Astraweb and Usenet-news. Thanks for the suggestions,
Steve and Duck.
-sw
Dan C
> In <llnavzxvwrrx$.d...@sqwertz.com>, on Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:12:04 -0500,
> Sqwertz, swe...@cluemail.composted wrote:
>
>> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather than
>> by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that will last
>> me into the next century since I mostly only use text groups. I'll
>> leave the rest in my will.
>
> 25 GB for $10 here:
> http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html
Yes. Highly recommended, very reliable and excellent provider.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Ahhhhhhhh!: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/relieve.jpg
Sqwertz
> In <llnavzxvwrrx$.d...@sqwertz.com>, on Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:12:04 -0500,
> Sqwertz, swe...@cluemail.composted wrote:
>
>> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
>> than by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that
>> will last me into the next century since I mostly only use text
>> groups. I'll leave the rest in my will.
>
> 25 GB for $10 here:
> http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html
For astraweb, the first identifier in the NNTP-Posting-Host... Is
this static? Or is this the same for every post from the same user?
NNTP-Posting-Host: 548d9088.news.astraweb.com
X-Trace:
DXC=^j<UeQ0;D6<YCNS1UYSjA1L?0kYOcDh@:gYcNlf<[\9>DlX3;FP;A0:e=9QL6i4Ob=64\hUVn`m61YVP9l95`E9?
I would think that header is redundant if they have an X-Trace as
well.
-sw
Sqwertz
> In <1ltptws5mt7b6$.d...@sqwertz.com>, on Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:51:50 -0500,
> Sqwertz, swe...@cluemail.composted wrote:
>>
>> I'm familiar with Motz/E-S and Aioe. I'm posting from or the other
>> right now. But I need something more reliable. Motz/E-S has a lot
>> of missing posts. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn into a pay
>> provider as individual.net did.
>>
>> Plus I do have two groups of non-multipart binaries I sometimes
>> read,
>
> Ah. Well, that's a bit different than what I first
> inferred.
Yes - sorry about that. I should have mentioned that.
>> very low bandwidth there. Motz actually does carry one of
>> them, but only the text posts.
>
> How big are the binaries? Teranews charges a one-time
> fee of $3.95 for 50MB a day... forever.
I have heard really bad comments about them. I'd rather pay the
extra $6 for less chance of headaches. Heck, 6 dollars will only
buy be 3 Dogfish 60-Minute IPA's anyway.
-sw
John Hosking
> In <1o7ehkdr...@sqwertz.com>, on Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:17:02 -0500,
> Sqwertz, swe...@cluemail.composted wrote:
>>
>
>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:25:12 -0600, Steve Ackman wrote:
>>
>>> How big are the binaries? Teranews charges a one-time
>>> fee of $3.95 for 50MB a day... forever.
>>
>> I have heard really bad comments about them.
>
> Consider this a really good comment then. I've used
> them off and on since '02. More since cable companies
> started shutting down news and/or binary access. 99.9%
> availability. How can you beat that for essentially
> free? So far, 7 years for $3.95 comes out to 47 cents
> a month.
Exactly seven years for $3.95 would be 56 cents per year.
A rate of $3.95 per year would be 33 cents per month.
$3.95 per 50MB per day is 7.9 cents per MB the first day, 3.95 cents/MB the
second day, with the rate per MB decreasing every additional day.
The 47 cents per month must be a miscalculation. If you really paid
$0.47/month, you'd have already hit $3.95 in 8 months and about 12 days.
(And 99.9% uptime means about 8.75 hours downtime per year. Not enough to
affect the cost calculations much.)
None of which really matters, at that level of cheap. I just want to prove
I'm paying attention.
>
>> I'd rather pay the
>> extra $6 for less chance of headaches. Heck, 6 dollars will only
>> buy be 3 Dogfish 60-Minute IPA's anyway.
>
> Where do you get 50 MB/day forever for a one-time fee
> of less than $10?
Remulac*
--
John
Or did I miss something?
*It's near France.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Steve Ackman wrote:
> Unlimited webspace - Unlimited bandwidth
> http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?nnnnn
Can I host all my DVDs there and post links on my popular website for
visitors to download? For the $5.95 per month?
(Hmm... thirty or so hi-def full-length feature films and a hundred
downloads each per day ... that would be close to unlimited bandwidth,
right?)
--
-bts
-havin' fun on teh intarweb
Sqwertz
> The X-Trace does have a substring unique to user... or
> the IP address. I'm not sure which. Basically, if you
> nymshift, that substring of the X-Trace will be able to
> show that Person A = Person B.
>
> Anyway, that was the case in one group where I
> bothered to correlate the X-Trace identifier with a
> known nymshifter.
I know that AIOE's NNTP-Posting -Host does have unique string (last
4-6 chars) that identify can match the posting IP. But I've looked
at Giganews's X-Trace and there isn't a unique string common to
consecutive [or not] posts by the same person (other than the 'sv3',
which everybody seems to have).
-sw
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
I got my first Usenet account in 1986(uucp, twice daily),
I've been a regular since 1991.
I don't care if a server is down for an hour or two
―▶ SO LONG AS I KNOW IF I CAN POST OR NOT ◀―, I'm a happy camper.
I won't tolerate a server that doesn't immediately propigate my post.
At times, TeraNews times-out when I try to post.
Then I'm left wondering, did it go through ? when will I know ?
So I won't use TeraNews.
TeraNews was trying(and failing) to auto-filter my post, I'm sure.
Typically, binary servers are bogged-down or
more restrictive about posting ― so I prefer text-only servers.
By my standards, Individual.NET is flawless, year after year.
To the best of my (limited)knowledge,
only Individual.NET and Glorb.COM are “flawless”. Signup at:
www.Glorb.COM/usenet.php
―――――――――――――――――――――――――
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Ackman news:slrnh503op...@sorceror.wizard.dyndns.org
Sqwertz news:1o7ehkdr...@sqwertz.com
Steve•Ackman news:slrnh57k7f...@sorceror.wizard.dyndns.org
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Re: Servers that Sell by the Gig?
Sqwertz
> In <llnavzxvwrrx$.d...@sqwertz.com>, on Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:12:04 -0500,
> Sqwertz, swe...@cluemail.composted wrote:
>
>> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather
>> than by the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that
>> will last me into the next century since I mostly only use text
>> groups. I'll leave the rest in my will.
>
> 25 GB for $10 here:
> http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html
Well, I just signed up for the 25gig plan. I just wasted $10.
Astraweb overwrites my submitted message-id and replaces it with
theirs. This totally circumvents the tracking of my own posts and
followups using a custom domain in my message-id and Dialog's
scoring/colorize feature.
I didn't even think to ask about that. I just assumed all servers
allowed you to do that. I've never seen one enforce assigning it's
own MID.
Anybody want to buy an Astraweb account for $5? It has
24.9999999999 Gigs left on it.
[posted using astraweb]
-sw
MartinS
> John Hosking, john...@bluemail.ch wrote:
>
>> Exactly seven years for $3.95 would be 56 cents per year.
>
> off. Blame it on the slide rule operator.
>
>> (And 99.9% uptime means about 8.75 hours downtime per year. Not
>> enough to affect the cost calculations much.)
>
> for the price I paid either.
>
>> None of which really matters, at that level of cheap. I just want to
>> prove I'm paying attention.
>
When I signed up in '02 tera was free so it's cost me exactly $0.00/month.
--
Martin S.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Can I host all my DVDs there and post links on my popular website for
>> visitors to download? For the $5.95 per month?
>>
>> (Hmm... thirty or so hi-def full-length feature films and a hundred
>> downloads each per day ... that would be close to unlimited
>> bandwidth, right?)
>
> I seem to recall a caveat or two...
Ah yes. The caveat.
> a) "Full length feature films" implies they're not YOUR DVDs... so
> yeah, copyright infringement falls outside the dreamhost definition
> of "unlimited," as does anything illegal.
Hey! I forgot to tell you I'm a filmmaker!!
> b) $5.95 is an "as low as" price, meaning you only get that when you
> prepay for 10 years.
Oops. I get that rate now with my host when paying by the month. (No,
mine doesn't say 'unlimited'.) Dreamhost: "$10.95/mo monthly, .. plus
$50 setup fee."
> You can find all the caveats to what isn't really included in
> "unlimited" here:
> http://www.dreamhost.com/unlimited.html
"It means two things.
One, it's sort of a joke! ..."
You should add that to your sig! <lol>
(You do realize I'm pulling your leg and having a bit of sport, right?)
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Gene E. Bloch
> Path: news.albasani.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail
> From: Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.composted>
> Subject: Re: Servers that Sell by the Gig?
> Newsgroups: news.software.readers
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Organization: Me, Myself, and Inc.
> References: <llnavzxvwrrx$.d...@sqwertz.com> <slrnh4vbui...@sorceror.wizard.dyndns.org>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:02:38 -0500
> X-WebTV-Stationery: BGColor=red; Background="http://pics.trannydollars.com/transsexual-stripper/010.jpg"; TextColor=red
> Lines: 30
> Message-ID: <00842401$0$22909$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 0314ba8f.news.astraweb.com
> X-Trace: DXC=CoYdQ]RQ<MU;0`5D\QI41SL?0kYOcDh@ZYMF1K]Zc@EYoWBGIQAWAbW1QU?6n`i>A[mT6OJ1>_n1TAkcI4IPE>oZ
> Xref: news.albasani.net news.software.readers:244329
The thought occurs to me that some newsreaders let you create custom
headers. If you made one, maybe Astraweb would let you keep it.
My first though was "Bummer". Even though I don't need that facility
m'self, obviously it's a PITA for you and others who want or need it.
In any case, it's only $10 (A week's food? Hope not :-)).
--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
Gene E. Bloch
Not quite "exactly". It's +- 10%.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> Astraweb overwrites my submitted message-id and replaces it with
> theirs. This totally circumvents the tracking of my own posts and
> followups using a custom domain in my message-id and Dialog's
> scoring/colorize feature.
Would something like this in your score file help?
[*]
# Highlight your own posts setcolor(<foreground;background)
!setcolor(default;$ccffff) From "Sqwertz"
# Watch, or download your own posts
!watch From: "Sqwertz"
Pick yer own colors, if you wish.
forget4it
> Signup at:
> www.Glorb.COM/usenet.php
> ―――――――――――――――――――――――――
$10/year NOT == free !
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
>> "It means two things.
>> One, it's sort of a joke! ..."
>>
>> You should add that to your sig! <lol>
>
> OK.
>
>> (You do realize I'm pulling your leg and having a bit of sport, right?)
>
> I'd never have guessed Bo was a British name.
My grandmother was born in Liverpool, and that's the closest I get to
being British...
> --
> "Unlimited + 50 GB"
> "It means two things.
> One, it's sort of a joke! ..."
Well done, Sir.
Sqwertz
It would work very similar, but not quite. I colorize based on MID:
and References:
If I had "Watch/Ignore Works on Subthreads" enabled, then my posts
would be colorized and any followups marked with sunglasses (while
not being colorized). Which is really a minor issue.
In any regards, Astraweb has kindly offered me a full refund which I
have accepted. New thread on Spoofing MID's to be posted soon.
So now my question is, what servers allow you to buy chunks of
bandwidth for a one-time fee AND allow you to submit your own MID's?
Usenet-news.com possibly?
-sw
Mike Easter
> So now my question is, what servers allow you to buy chunks of
> bandwidth for a one-time fee AND allow you to submit your own MID's?
> Usenet-news.com possibly?
I could test usenet-news, but I don't think I currently have any
newsreaders accessible which will allow me to configure my own MID.
I'll look around on some systems here. Previously I had a linux distro
install that had a lot of different /n/x/ agents plus wine and several
win ones, but I took that one down.
--
Mike Easter
Sqwertz
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> So now my question is, what servers allow you to buy chunks of
>> bandwidth for a one-time fee AND allow you to submit your own MID's?
>> Usenet-news.com possibly?
>
> I could test usenet-news, but I don't think I currently have any
> newsreaders accessible which will allow me to configure my own MID.
That's OK. I just dropped them a support note asking that question.
In the meantime, I've looked up a Usenet post from their support
department and I see this MID:
Message-ID: <g17e05l3vi44gderl...@4ax.com>
So that pretty much answers my question. Yes, they do allow custom
MID's (this one being generated by Forte Agent).
> I'll look around on some systems here. Previously I had a linux distro
> install that had a lot of different /n/x/ agents plus wine and several
> win ones, but I took that one down.
Thanks for the offer, but not necessary.
-sw
Sqwertz
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> I didn't even think to ask about that. I just assumed all servers
>> allowed you to do that. I've never seen one enforce assigning it's
>> own MID.
>
> Databasix does it also. They say they do it so users don't accidentally
> out themselves.
I would never have even considered them/him anyway.
-sw
Mike Easter
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> So now my question is, what servers allow you to buy chunks of
>>> bandwidth for a one-time fee AND allow you to submit your own MID's?
>>> Usenet-news.com possibly?
>>
>> I could test usenet-news, but I don't think I currently have any
>> newsreaders accessible which will allow me to configure my own MID.
>
> That's OK. I just dropped them a support note asking that question.
> In the meantime, I've looked up a Usenet post from their support
> department and I see this MID:
>
> Message-ID: <g17e05l3vi44gderl...@4ax.com>
>
> So that pretty much answers my question. Yes, they do allow custom
> MID's (this one being generated by Forte Agent).
While working in Opera for another problem elsewhere, I discovered that
Opera newsreader makes its own mid by default and I have Opera installed
on this Win98 system.
But since you don't need it, I'm not going to make a usenet-news account
for it, as Opera has some tedious characteristics for getting the
newsgroup list. Well, not tedious, but less convenient.
--
Mike Easter
Sqwertz
Support got back to me VIA email in a couple hours and confirmed it.
I'm soaking in it now.
-sw
Mike Easter
>>>>> Usenet-news.com possibly?
> Support got back to me VIA email in a couple hours and confirmed it.
>
> I'm soaking in it now.
Ah, so. They are a highwinds-media reseller.
I was looking for a list of those resellers, but I didn't find one.
Highwinds bought newshosting a few years ago.
I just took another look around before posting and found a list of
highwinds resellers that is probably uptodate (in some parts, not others)
http://www.newsgroupservers.net/ <in the Big List of Newsgroup Server
Company Reviews section>
--
Mike Easter
MartinS
So are tera/bubba and my ISP.
--
Martin S.
Barry
> I know, it's not a reader question but a server question, but I can't
> find another group to post this (news.* is a big clusterfuck).
>
> What reputable news providers allow you to pay by the Gig rather than by
> the month? I figure if I just buy 1 or 2 gigs, then that will last me
> into the next century since I mostly only use text groups. I'll leave
> the rest in my will.
>
> TIA,
>
> -sw
I've been using Buzzardnews for a number of years. Good retention and
completion, speedy downloads. $35 for 100 gB
Barry