Dialog key
Wrinklie One
it has been recognized, yet there is no evidence of a star. Have tried to
re-input the key but am told it is already installed.
2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
folder??
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Wreak not thy wrath upon me
Lest evil befall thee
Andreas Loch
> 1. I have installed the *donation* key and according to the headers
> it has been recognized, yet there is no evidence of a star.
Did you enter the Key _and_ Name form the mail you received from
Marcus? The Name in that mail may be different from the name you use
for posting.
> Have tried to re-input the key but am told it is already installed.
This information is also shown if you entered a wrong name key pair.
Just replace it with the correct values form the mail.
Andreas
Marcus Mönnig
> 1. I have installed the *donation* key and according to the headers
> it has been recognized, yet there is no evidence of a star. Have tried to
> re-input the key but am told it is already installed.
I am now using your key in my copy of Dialog. If the star doesn't show up
with this message, we have a problem. If it does show up, you didn't enter
it correctly. Try again and contact me by email if the problem persists.
> 2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
> click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
> disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
> folder??
When you are in the folder, press CTRL+F11. Do they show up now?
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Wrinklie One
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:52:51 +0000, Wrinklie One
> <james_...@bigfoot.com> used 12 lines of space inciting the
> following:
>
>>1. I have installed the *donation* key and according to the headers
>>it has been recognized, yet there is no evidence of a star. Have tried to
>>re-input the key but am told it is already installed.
>>
>
> User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.2.1 (5e150894.97.81)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That looks significantly different to other D'log users UA: field to me.
>
> I don't know, what does it do?
>
> I hope you don't don't expect it to splatter Usenet groups with large
> graphical gold stars just to prove you paid for a bit of s/w? :-(
LOL Betty, the star is quite small and shouldn't upset Usenet users, it
sits just above the x-face siggy. Did you see mine? Only Dialog users can!!
;-)
Marcus Mönnig
> User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.2.1 (5e150894.97.81)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That looks significantly different to other D'log users UA: field to me.
>
> I don't know, what does it do?
>
> I hope you don't don't expect it to splatter Usenet groups with large
> graphical gold stars just to prove you paid for a bit of s/w? :-(
Do I have a record of trying to splatter Usenet? :-)
dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
Don't now if you are currently using Dialog, but if notice the little star
above the X-Face.
Wrinklie One
> Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:52:51 +0000, Wrinklie One:
>
>> 1. I have installed the *donation* key and according to the headers
>> it has been recognized, yet there is no evidence of a star.
>
> Did you enter the Key _and_ Name form the mail you received from
> Marcus? The Name in that mail may be different from the name you use
> for posting.
Yes Andreas, the only thing I'm unsure about is whether there should have
been a space before the (No)
>
>> Have tried to re-input the key but am told it is already installed.
>
> This information is also shown if you entered a wrong name key pair.
> Just replace it with the correct values form the mail.
OK I'll try some different combinations.
Thanks for help
Jo'Asia
> Wrinklie One wrote in <iutp22sbyb6t$.f4dypwni...@40tude.net>:
>
> > 1. I have installed the *donation* key and according to the headers
> > it has been recognized, yet there is no evidence of a star. Have tried to
> > re-input the key but am told it is already installed.
>
> I am now using your key in my copy of Dialog. If the star doesn't show up
> with this message, we have a problem. If it does show up, you didn't enter
> it correctly. Try again and contact me by email if the problem persists.
It is shown in your post.
Jo'Asia
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Exiddor
> I hope you don't don't expect it to splatter Usenet groups with large
> graphical gold stars just to prove you paid for a bit of s/w? :-(
I'd say this ....
> X-Info1: *********************************************
> X-Info2: * To join the Clueless Club and guarantee *
> X-Info3: * that your response will be ignored, *
> X-Info4: * send a top posted reply to this message. *
> X-Info5: *********************************************
is much more splatter than a little star.
--
Exiddor.
I put my air conditioner in backwards. It got cold outside. The weatherman
on TV was confused. "It was supposed to be hot today."
-- Stephen Wright
Marcus Mönnig
> Yes Andreas, the only thing I'm unsure about is whether there should have
> been a space before the (No)
Yes. But don't include the quotes (").
Wrinklie One
>> 2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
>> click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
>> disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
>> folder??
>
> When you are in the folder, press CTRL+F11. Do they show up now?
Just tried that Marcus...No joy :-((
Wrinklie One
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:44:58 +0000, Wrinklie One
> <james_...@bigfoot.com> used 27 lines of space inciting the
> following:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:29:32 +1100, /betty/ said, authoritatively:
>>>
>>> I hope you *don't don't* expect it to splatter Usenet groups with large
>>> graphical gold stars just to prove you paid for a bit of s/w? :-(
>>
>>LOL Betty, the star is quite small and shouldn't upset Usenet users, it
>
> But, but, you said you couldn't find it... ???
That's true, but I could see it on other Dialog users posts. :-)
>
> NP, Glad to see your happy now; btw, was it equally thrilling as when
> the teacher used to stamp your hand at school? ;-)
Normally it was the cane I got on my hand at school (some 65 years ago) :-)
Bet you'll be thrilled to bits with the baby rattle you'll be getting in
your Christmas stocking!! (facetiously)
>>sits just above the x-face siggy. Did you see mine? Only Dialog users can!!
>>;-)
>
> Nup. Wouldn't see it in my Humble Text[tm] newsclient. :)
>
> Hmmm interesting... must check to see if the Fischer Price stuff can be
> turned off in Dialog.
That's your prerogative my dear
Bob Frank
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:41:23 +0100, Marcus Mönnig said, authoritatively:
>
>>> 2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
>>> click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
>>> disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
>>> folder??
>>
>> When you are in the folder, press CTRL+F11. Do they show up now?
>
> Just tried that Marcus...No joy :-((
I've seen your star on two of your posts in this thread. Once in this
message that I'm replying to and once in the message where you wrote:
"> But, but, you said you couldn't find it... ???
That's true, but I could see it on other Dialog users posts. :-)"
Bob Frank
Wrinklie One
Thanks Bob...got the star sorted, now just have the problem of moving posts
I want to keep into a new folder.
Bob Frank
> Thanks Bob...got the star sorted, now just have the problem of moving posts
> I want to keep into a new folder.
I've just re-read your original post in this thread where you said:
>2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
>click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
>disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
>folder??
I just tried this here and it works just fine for me.
Do you have Dialog set to show only unread posts?
Is it possible that the mouse slipped slightly while selecting your Archive
folder and you ended up sending the message to another folder my mistake?
Did you install this copy of Dialog over a previous beta or did you do a
clean installation as suggested in the readme?
Is there a small black cloud over your head that follows you around? ;-)
Bob Frank
Wrinklie One
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:01:11 +0000, Wrinklie One wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks Bob...got the star sorted, now just have the problem of moving posts
>> I want to keep into a new folder.
>
> I've just re-read your original post in this thread where you said:
>
>>2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
>>click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
>>disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
>>folder??
>
> I just tried this here and it works just fine for me.
That's promising then
>
> Do you have Dialog set to show only unread posts?
Yes
>
> Is it possible that the mouse slipped slightly while selecting your Archive
> folder and you ended up sending the message to another folder my mistake?
Unlikely
>
> Did you install this copy of Dialog over a previous beta or did you do a
> clean installation as suggested in the readme?
No it was a clean install
> Is there a small black cloud over your head that follows you around? ;-)
I think there must be...or perhaps it's my age ;-)
Wrinklie One
Have just reacted to your post re *unread*. That was the problem..Had to
switch to *All* and ctrl F11 as suggested by Marcus and bingo...there they
were!!
Thanks!!
Bob Frank
>>
>>> Is there a small black cloud over your head that follows you around? ;-)
>>
>> I think there must be...or perhaps it's my age ;-)
I can't do much about the black cloud except to lend to an umbrella on
occasion.
>
> Have just reacted to your post re *unread*. That was the problem..Had to
> switch to *All* and ctrl F11 as suggested by Marcus and bingo...there they
> were!!
Some times it's the obvious that's most difficult to see.
If you mark the message as unread before moving it to the archive folder it
will arrive at the archive folder as unread. I wouldn't be surprised if a
script could be written and attached to a button to mark the article unread
and move it to the archive folder with one click. (Just don't ask me how.)
Bob Frank
John Fitzsimons
< snip >
> Do I have a record of trying to splatter Usenet? :-)
> dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
Is that a URL ? A help file ? If so it doesn't work for me "as is". What do
I need to do to see it ?
Regards, John.
John Fitzsimons
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:52:51 +0000, Wrinklie One
> <james_...@bigfoot.com> used 12 lines of space inciting the
> following:
>>1. I have installed the *donation* key
< snip >
> I hope you don't don't expect it to splatter Usenet groups with large
> graphical gold stars just to prove you paid for a bit of s/w? :-(
Great idea Betty. Have you recommended that as a "feature request" ?
< he he >
How about adding <blink> star.gif </blink> ? :-)
Or perhaps a marquee "loop" saying "I have paid". < ROFL >
Regards, John.
John Fitzsimons
< snip >
> 2. I have created an *Archive* folder for posts I wish to keep, using rmb
> click on the message and *copy/move from the drop down menu. The message
> disappeared from the headers pane but did not arrive in the archive
> folder??
I know that that question has now been resolved. On a related matter
though...
Can one move posts to/from folders to newsgroups ? This cannot be done in
eg. Agent, without a lot of messing around.
Regards, John.
Tarkus
> Can one move posts to/from folders to newsgroups ? This cannot be done in
> eg. Agent, without a lot of messing around.
Yes, when you go to move the message there is a check box that asks if
you want to be able to move to newsgroups.
--
"I was such an ugly kid... When I played in the sandbox the cat kept
covering me up." - Rodney Dangerfield
Marcus Mönnig
>> Do I have a record of trying to splatter Usenet? :-)
>
>> dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
>
> Is that a URL ? A help file ? If so it doesn't work for me "as is". What do
> I need to do to see it ?
While running Dialog clicking on it should open the help at the specified
page. I build this in, so I can quickly point people to chapters in the
help file.
Jernej Simončič
>> dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
> Is that a URL ? A help file ? If so it doesn't work for me "as is". What do
> I need to do to see it ?
In Dialog - just click it.
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(Tekguru) Daron Brewood
> While running Dialog clicking on it should open the help at the specified
> page. I build this in, so I can quickly point people to chapters in the
> help file.
Does nothing for me in dialog I'm afraid.
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Tarkus
> While running Dialog clicking on it should open the help at the specified
> page. I build this in, so I can quickly point people to chapters in the
> help file.
Speaking of which, is it possible to save the Help window's size and
position, including pane size, or does Windows handle that? I like to
keep it maximized with the full left pane showing, but every time I
invoke it, it's tiny again.
--
"The other night I came home late, and tried to unlock my house with my
car keys. I started the house up. So, I drove it around for a while.
I was speeding, and a cop pulled me over. He asked where I lived. I
said, 'right here, officer.' Later, I parked it on the freeway, got
out, and yelled at all the cars, 'Get out of my driveway!'"
- Steven Wright
Tarkus
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:47:11 +0100, Marcus Mönnig wrote:
>
>> While running Dialog clicking on it should open the help at the specified
>> page. I build this in, so I can quickly point people to chapters in the
>> help file.
>
> Does nothing for me in dialog I'm afraid.
Interesting. It worked for me.
--
Why is it when two planes almost hit each other it is called a "near
miss?" Shouldn't it be called a "near hit?"
Bob Frank
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:47:11 +0100, Marcus Mönnig wrote:
>
>> While running Dialog clicking on it should open the help at the specified
>> page. I build this in, so I can quickly point people to chapters in the
>> help file.
>
> Does nothing for me in dialog I'm afraid.
I found that if I had not accessed Help it wouldn't work. If I opened Help
then clicking on the link would go to the appropriate place in Help.
I could then close help and clicking on the link would work until I quit
Dialog. Restarting Dialog left me back where clicking on the link wouldn't
work until I had opened Help first.
Bob Frank
John Fitzsimons
< snip >
> I found that if I had not accessed Help it wouldn't work. If I opened Help
> then clicking on the link would go to the appropriate place in Help.
< snip >
Yep. Same here. Very clever of you to work that out ! Looks like a bug to
me. One shouldn't need to open "help" to activate a "help" link. If only
because most people wouldn't know about that prerequisite.
I also notice that the original link ;
dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
now works BUT a later quote ;
>dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
did NOT remain a hot link. :-(
Is that a bug ?
Great idea though. :-)
Regards, John.
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John Fitzsimons
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:29:18 +1100, John Fitzsimons wrote:
>> Can one move posts to/from folders to newsgroups ? This cannot be done in
>> eg. Agent, without a lot of messing around.
> Yes, when you go to move the message there is a check box that asks if
> you want to be able to move to newsgroups.
Great ! I haven't messed around with folders/email etc. in Dialog yet. This
looks like a HUGE plus for Dialog IMO. Now, if I can import newsgroup posts
from Agent AND keep the "kept/unkept" status of posts..... ? :-)
Thanks for your help.
Tarkus
> Yep. Same here. Very clever of you to work that out ! Looks like a bug to
> me. One shouldn't need to open "help" to activate a "help" link. If only
> because most people wouldn't know about that prerequisite.
I just tried it twice without Help loaded and it worked just fine. I
opened up Help and displayed the bookmark.
What OS are you using? I'm using XP here. Maybe that's the difference.
--
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RickM
> Speaking of which, is it possible to save the Help window's size and
> position, including pane size, or does Windows handle that? I like to
> keep it maximized with the full left pane showing, but every time I
> invoke it, it's tiny again.
Custom script to start help maximised:
Program ShowHelp;
uses
Forms;
const
SW_NORMAL = 1;
SW_MAXIMIZE = 3;
SW_MINIMIZE = 6;
function ShellExecute(hwnd: LongWord; lpOperation: pchar;
lpFile: pchar; lpParams: pchar;
lpDir: pchar; nShow: integer): LongWord;
external 'ShellE...@shell32.dll stdcall';
Begin
ShellExecute(Application.MainForm.Handle, 'open',
pchar(ExtractFilePath(Application.ExeName) +
'dialog.chm'), '', '', SW_MAXIMIZE);
End.
--
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Tarkus
> Custom script to start help maximised:
Thanks very much, but it occurred to me that I'm already using ZMover,
and that makes it even easier (and more automatic). :)
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Tarkus
> Try this;
>
> 1. Shut down Dialog, completely, wait a bit 'til it flushes from
> cache~memory;
I shut it down, waited about 30 minutes, loaded some other programs in
the meantime, checked the Task Manager, yada, yada, yada.
> 2. Restart Dialog, *DO NOT* invoke Help;
>
> 3. Keep fingers/mouse away from F1 key/Help menu, do not pass Go, do not
> collect $200;
Followed.
> 4. d-Click the dialog. URLtype, and see if it autoinvokes Help.
I didn't double-click, because only a single click is necessary, but it
did indeed invoke Help immediately.
Next time I reboot/re-logon, I'll see if that makes a difference.
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Bob Frank
> On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:06:10 +1100, /betty/ wrote:
>
>> Try this;
>>
>> 1. Shut down Dialog, completely, wait a bit 'til it flushes from
>> cache~memory;
>
> I shut it down, waited about 30 minutes, loaded some other programs in
> the meantime, checked the Task Manager, yada, yada, yada.
>
>> 2. Restart Dialog, *DO NOT* invoke Help;
>>
>> 3. Keep fingers/mouse away from F1 key/Help menu, do not pass Go, do not
>> collect $200;
>
> Followed.
>
>> 4. d-Click the dialog. URLtype, and see if it autoinvokes Help.
>
> I didn't double-click, because only a single click is necessary, but it
> did indeed invoke Help immediately.
Obviously your copy of Dialog is corrupted. Uninstall your current copy,
re-download a fresh copy and re-install. This should reinstate the bug so
that your copy will misbehave like it should. ;-)
Bob Frank
Tarkus
> Aha, thanks for testing. Yes just tried that and single-c invokes URLs
> in Dialog on this PC too! hmm... now to find if that can be changed in
> Dialog because I don't like it, can be very dangerous.
I don't like it either. Not only can it be dangerous, but it makes it a
PITA to mark a path or an address for copying or for quoting.
> I think what you've now done there is sufficient to prove that it works
> 'properly' on your system, the trick is to find what peculiar
> config/settings etc that you have, which make it work, that others like
> me don't. Any ideas ???
No, but I'll let you know if I think of something.
> fwiw; I run XPP here with no known exotic settings or apps installed,
> and, the OS i/f and all other softwares behave 'normal, as expected', so
> am presuming at this stage that it's most probably a Dialog related
> issue.
I have a bunch of crap running on my system. Next time I boot into a
clean system, I'll try it again and see what happens.
Bob Frank
>>
>>I don't like it either. Not only can it be dangerous, but it makes it a
>>PITA to mark a path or an address for copying or for quoting.
>>
>
> Too true, Evil Stuff. Is a "convenience" feature thing that could only
> appeal to the myopic and brain-dead. The type of crap one should only
> expect in tardware like Lookout.
Well, speaking on behalf of the "Myopic and Brain-Dead Association of the
World" we are in favor of one click URL launching. It's the standard in
web browsing and many of us even have our Windows desktop set up to launch
applications with one click.
Bob (MABDAOTW) Frank
Tarkus
> Well, speaking on behalf of the "Myopic and Brain-Dead Association of the
> World" we are in favor of one click URL launching. It's the standard in
> web browsing and many of us even have our Windows desktop set up to launch
> applications with one click.
Well, it should be an option, then, so you brain deads can have it your
way, too. ;)
My main email program gives you the option.
Bob Frank
> On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 22:06:55 -0500, Bob Frank wrote:
>
>> Well, speaking on behalf of the "Myopic and Brain-Dead Association of the
>> World" we are in favor of one click URL launching. It's the standard in
>> web browsing and many of us even have our Windows desktop set up to launch
>> applications with one click.
>
> Well, it should be an option, then, so you brain deads can have it your
> way, too. ;)
>
> My main email program gives you the option.
Absolutely it *should* be an option. After some of may recover and want to
have the program work the wrong way.
Bob Frank
John Fitzsimons
> On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:07:33 +1100, John Fitzsimons
> <xpm4s...@sneakemail.com> used 36 lines of space inciting the
> following:
>>I also notice that the original link ;
>>dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
>>now works BUT a later quote ;
>>>dialog.chm://thekeyandthelittlestart.htm
>>did NOT remain a hot link. :-(
>>Is that a bug ?
> Nup, it does work John; conditional that Help is/has been invoked prior
> in the same session
< snip >
Er....no. In message :
Subject: Re: Dialog key
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:41:22 +1100
Message-ID: <9ao4sugcuagju58uhqd4nd2comdmj6v7m2@news>
for example the link is NOT a hot link when I first go to it. :-(
If however I display "all headers" the link miraculously becomes a "hot
link". :-)
Regards, John.
Marcus Mönnig
> Too true, Evil Stuff. Is a "convenience" feature thing that could only
> appeal to the myopic and brain-dead. The type of crap one should only
> expect in tardware like Lookout.
And that's why you put it into Mantis, right? ;-)
> Thanks, likewise I'll do some interrogation here. Identifying the cause
> and scenarios where it does/does-not happen can only help the author
> crush it, and possibly other related issues that crop up.
Regarding, the help file link not firing up, anyone was able to reproduce
this once the help file was opened for the first time. I mean overall first
time, not since last run or last reboot.
Tarkus
> Regarding, the help file link not firing up, anyone was able to reproduce
> this once the help file was opened for the first time. I mean overall first
> time, not since last run or last reboot.
I was one of the ones (maybe the only one) who never had any problems
with it firing up. I've since found that was because I was using WinKey
to load it. If I load it the regular way, I have the same problem as
everyone else.