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Jim S

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Oct 11, 2021, 9:21:40 AM10/11/21
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I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
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Jim S

Jim S

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Oct 11, 2021, 9:39:56 AM10/11/21
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In article <XnsADC092124396F...@46.165.242.75>,
j...@jimXscott.co.uk says...
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> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.

E-S is back

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VanguardLH

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Oct 11, 2021, 1:43:31 PM10/11/21
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Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

> j...@jimXscott.co.uk said:
>
>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>
> E-S is back

Got your test message from AIOE, and later from ES to my individual.net
server.

http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en

Doesn't show zero volume, so their servers were up and handling some
traffic.

Too late now, but next time maybe do a traceroute to see if a host in
the route between you and ES went dead or became super slow.

VanguardLH

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Oct 11, 2021, 1:55:14 PM10/11/21
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ES does seem very slow, though. I just newly subscribed to
eternal-september.support, and retrieving 6K+ articles is taking a long
time. In the time to write up this reply while checking with a
tracerout along with an interruption, only about 500 articles were
retrieved; however, instead of retrieving just the overview headers, I
retrieve full articles (headers+body) which lets me test on all headers,
not just the overview headers, for more robust filtering.

Did a traceroute to news.eternal-september.org. Nothing unusual. There
was a sudden increase in delay, but that's due to routing along the
undersea cable between continents (New York to France), and no big jumps
thereafter.

Jim S

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Oct 11, 2021, 7:04:03 PM10/11/21
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I'm not bothered about E-S now that it's back, but I do like Paganini which
has been fine up until today.
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Jim S

Jim S

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Oct 12, 2021, 4:25:44 AM10/12/21
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Paganini back this morning. :)

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Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 12, 2021, 7:43:56 AM10/12/21
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On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

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Jim S

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Oct 12, 2021, 9:11:25 AM10/12/21
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P

5S?
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Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 12, 2021, 10:04:06 AM10/12/21
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https://usenet-news.net/
10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

Jim S

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Oct 12, 2021, 12:44:07 PM10/12/21
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:

> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
>>
>> 5S?
> https://usenet-news.net/
> 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

Ah!
No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
Thanks
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Kerr-Mudd, John

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Oct 12, 2021, 3:15:38 PM10/12/21
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:44:03 +0100
Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>
> > On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
> >>>> reponding Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
> >>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
> >>
> >> 5S?
> > https://usenet-news.net/
> > 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

HQ Belize

> Ah!
> No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
> Thanks

Text is Best!


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Sn!pe

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Oct 12, 2021, 3:27:16 PM10/12/21
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Several binary services have perfectly serviceable text groups too,
some with retention up to 17 years. A $5, 10GB non-expiring block
account would last most text Usenetters a lifetime, as Branimir said.

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VanguardLH

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Oct 12, 2021, 4:46:51 PM10/12/21
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Branimir Maksimovic <branimir....@icloud.com> wrote:

> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
>>
>> 5S?
>
> https://usenet-news.net/
> 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P

https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
lifetime. It's 10GB until you use it up much like your dinner: it's on
your plate until you eat it up, and then have to buy more to fill your
plate again.

To be honest, I've never bothered to measure my bandwidth consumption
with any of my Usenet providers. Never needed to. I only visit
text-only newsgroups, no binaries, so my bandwidth consumption should be
pretty low. However, when subscribing to a new newsgroup, all messages
get downloaded, and some newsgroups are still damn busy (lots of
volume). I'd have to get something to monitor just my NNTP bandwidth
consumption since my NNTP client doesn't do that. I see they have a
user login page. Maybe bandwidth consumption could be monitored there
to know how much of the block quota is left.

They mention "subscription" at their site. I don't want them
automatically charging my Paypal when a block quota gets used up. I
want to buy a block, and then *I* decide later if I want to buy another
block.

If your block account is getting used up quickly, can you buy more
bandwidth to have to added to what you already have (like rollover
minutes for some phone carriers), or do you get another account to
separately use the new block?

Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 12, 2021, 4:52:17 PM10/12/21
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On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>>>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
>>>
>>> 5S?
>> https://usenet-news.net/
>> 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P
>
> Ah!
> No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
> Thanks
You don't have to download binaries, just use text :P
Binaries are just option :P
Greets :P

Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 12, 2021, 4:53:42 PM10/12/21
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On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir....@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>>>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
>>>
>>> 5S?
>>
>> https://usenet-news.net/
>> 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P
>
> https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get
>
> You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
> lifetime.
Look lifetime as if you don't have to pay *monthly*.
And i haven't spent 1GB in 5 years :P
So...

VanguardLH

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Oct 12, 2021, 5:04:12 PM10/12/21
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Branimir Maksimovic <branimir....@icloud.com> wrote:

> On 2021-10-12, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
>> Branimir Maksimovic <branimir....@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not reponding
>>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>>>>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
>>>>
>>>> 5S?
>>>
>>> https://usenet-news.net/
>>> 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P
>>
>> https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get
>>
>> You're buying a bandwidth block with no expiration. It's not 10GB
>> lifetime.
> Look lifetime as if you don't have to pay *monthly*.
> And i haven't spent 1GB in 5 years :P
> So...

Since you have an account with them, and if you use their login page to
get into your account, do they show remaining quota in your account, so
you can guage your rate of consumption?

Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 12, 2021, 5:25:16 PM10/12/21
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I use web page only to check how much bw I spent,
but rarely, as text is few data.

Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 12, 2021, 5:27:50 PM10/12/21
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User bmaxa logged in.


Quota:
Total: 10.0000 GB
Used: 0.8718 GB
Left: 9.1282 GB

Frank Slootweg

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Oct 13, 2021, 7:55:42 AM10/13/21
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VanguardLH <V...@nguard.lh> wrote:
[...]

> To be honest, I've never bothered to measure my bandwidth consumption
> with any of my Usenet providers. Never needed to. I only visit
> text-only newsgroups, no binaries, so my bandwidth consumption should be
> pretty low. However, when subscribing to a new newsgroup, all messages
> get downloaded, and some newsgroups are still damn busy (lots of
> volume). I'd have to get something to monitor just my NNTP bandwidth
> consumption since my NNTP client doesn't do that. I see they have a
> user login page. Maybe bandwidth consumption could be monitored there
> to know how much of the block quota is left.

Text is peanuts. For example, I've used only 118MB network bandwidth
this year for NetNews/Usenet.

OTOH, considering your often very lengthy posts, .... :-)

[...]

Jim S

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Oct 13, 2021, 8:09:17 AM10/13/21
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Branimir Maksimovic <branimir....@icloud.com> wrote in
news:4Am9J.205185$Kv2....@fx47.iad:

> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:04:04 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-10-12, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:54 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-10-11, Jim S <j...@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm posting this via AIOE because E-E and Paganini are not
reponding
>>>>>> Anyone else got this - assuming yours ic not down too.
>>>>>|You can get for 5$ lifetime usenet access :P
>>>>
>>>> 5S?
>>> https://usenet-news.net/
>>> 10GB lifetime for 5$ :P
>>
>> Ah!
>> No binaries for me so I use one of the free ones.
>> Thanks
> You don't have to download binaries, just use text :P
> Binaries are just option :P
> Greets :P
>
Payment is not an option.

Branimir Maksimovic

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Oct 13, 2021, 10:27:23 AM10/13/21
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Why? nothing on this world is free ...

Sn!pe

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Oct 13, 2021, 10:56:36 AM10/13/21
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In the old-fashioned Spirit of the Internet: you should contribute
at least as much as you take, lest it die of starvation.

There is a voluntary donation link on the Eternal-September website.
Don't forget, Eternal-September is a labour of love, not for profit.

Just sayin'.
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