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KPO...@hotmail.com

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Please explain the following: 404 error message and 403 forbidden. Can anyone
tell me what messages like these mean and what causes them?

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>Please explain the following: 404 error message and 403 forbidden. Can anyone
>tell me what messages like these mean and what causes them?


404 the page isn't there. May be down temporarily for updating, or for
good. The web is dynamic.

403 sounds like it's restricted to certain IP addresses or users.
Somebody wrote some code that makes it spit this back at people they
don't want seeing the page.


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Rodger Whitlock

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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KPO...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:

>Please explain the following: 404 error message and 403 forbidden. Can anyone
>tell me what messages like these mean and what causes them?

IIRC, 404 is the general "file not found" message used by HTTP servers. Error
403 means the file exists, but you are not allowed access to it.

I know this is probably meaningless jargon to a new user, so let me expand on
this in (I hope!) simpler language.

When you access a web page, your web browser first connects to a web server
somewhere else. It then sends a message that says "retrieve file such-and-such
for me." Sometimes the web server discovers that it does not have a file with
the name you specified. Sometimes it finds that it has a file with such a name,
but the file is secured against access by outsiders.

These error messages are *not* your fault, unless you keyed in a URL by hand and
made a mistake. If you are clicking on a link and get such an error message, it
means the link is now stale. The person to notify is whoever is responsible for
the web page on which the link resides -- not the person responsible for the
file the link points to.

For example, the URL appended to every message in this newsgroup

http://www.dejanews.com/home_if.shtml

means:

http:// use the HTTP (HyperText Transport Protocol)

www.dejanews.com use this server

/ look in the "root" directory

home_if.shtml fetch this document


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Peter Bennett

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:50:29 GMT, KPO...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:

>Please explain the following: 404 error message and 403 forbidden. Can anyone
>tell me what messages like these mean and what causes them?

It would help to give a little more context for these messages (where you
got them, and the message text that goes with the numbers) - however, I'll
guess that you get these from your web browser...

404 - page not found (or words to that effect) means that the web server
you specified in the URL exists, but the particular file or web page does
not. You may have misspelled the file or path name, the author may have
removed the file (or the host may have removed the site), etc.

403 - forbidden means that you are not allowed to access that site or file.
There may be an error in the file permissions on the site, or the author
may want to restrict access in some way.

For 404 errors, you should carefully check the spelling (and upper/lower
case) of the path and file name, and perhaps try likely alternate spellings
- for example, if the URL you tried is .../index.htm, try .../index.html

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Bob Avery H.......

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mKP...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
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> Please explain the following: 404 error message and 403 forbidden. Can anyone
> tell me what messages like these mean and what causes them?
>
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Any message taken out of context is almost meaningless.

I can see that something went wrong, but without knowing what you did to
provoke it, it is very unlikely that anyone can help.

You might find an answer in the user documentation or help files for the
product that issued the message.

No matter how cryptic a message may seem, it is unwise to ignore it.
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You must think of them as collections of small stones,
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