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Arnt Gulbrandsen

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Oct 3, 1993, 11:11:42 PM10/3/93
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I posted an RFD to alt.config for alt.sys.sinclair a week ago, and
was told that I might have support for a comp.sys group. Here goes:

I want to create a newsgroup, comp.sys.sinclair, to replace a
little-known mailing list which is going away soon, when its owner
loses that account. I would prefer a newsgroup rather than a new
mailing list (which I can host) since people seem to be bad at
finding mailing lists, but good at grepping through the list of
active newsgroups.

Charter: To provide a forum for the discussion of the various
brainchildren of Sir Clive (born Clive Sinclair) and related
computers such as the Jupiter Ace, TK95, SAM Coupe and never-to-be
Thor, software, peripherals, emulators for them, programming them;
playing those wonderful games (6031769, anyone?); and anything else
which interests the Sinclair community. The group will not be
moderated. If, at some future date, someone should want to make it
moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation
of a new USENET group at that time.

Now, of course you all know this, but: Sir Clive is a British
genius who's built a number of remarkable computers since the late
seventies and sold some 5-10 million of them, mostly Spectrums.
`Remarkable' is not necessarily positive... there are quite a few
remarks to be made about his cost-cutting techniques, for instance.

--
Arnt Gulbrandsen, agu...@nvg.unit.no
The other .sig is the real one - this one is just a decoy.
--
Arnt Gulbrandsen, agu...@nvg.unit.no
The other .sig is the real one - this one is just a decoy.

Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

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Oct 4, 1993, 8:37:30 AM10/4/93
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Excellent idea! I have always had this list of questions about the C5 :-)

Other than that, I fully agree. BTW, Sir Clive is still active, though his
projects tend to flop in no time flat. He has the problem that he's always
so far ahead in ideas that he never can get the industry interested. He
even had the ideas for a laptop Spectrum way back in '84, but I think it
never surfaced. After selling the Spectrum to Alan Sugar (Amstrad) he
released som very impressive machines... that never sold. Ah well.

Looking forward to this forum,
- Tor Iver
--
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <tor...@pvv.unit.no>
Standard disclaimer should apply to this, I guess...
"We don't flame in this newsgroup." - Tom Maki, comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

Adam David

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Oct 5, 1993, 9:04:42 AM10/5/93
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agu...@nvg.unit.no (Arnt Gulbrandsen) writes:

>Charter: To provide a forum for the discussion of the various
>brainchildren of Sir Clive (born Clive Sinclair) and related
>computers such as the Jupiter Ace, TK95, SAM Coupe and never-to-be
>Thor, software, peripherals, emulators for them, programming them;
>playing those wonderful games (6031769, anyone?); and anything else
>which interests the Sinclair community.

More computers: Mk14, ZX80, ZX81, Spectrum, QL, Z88, PGC-7600 CPU,

Computer related products and research:
Wafer-scale integration (20 MB of RAM on a single wafer, possibility
of supercomputer-on-a-wafer), parallel architecture stuff,

Descended from the QL: Thor (it did happen, various models), Futura (never
happened, but became the Atari QL emulator, and the QXL card for PC
computers),

Other things: C5 (motorised trike/pedalcar), Zike (advanced lightweight
bicycle that can fold away into a briefcase), square Satellite dish,

It would be an interesting newsgroup. Sinclair is a long way from finished yet.

--
Adam D. <ad...@veda.is>

Henk de Groot

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Oct 5, 1993, 11:55:11 AM10/5/93
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agu...@nvg.unit.no (Arnt Gulbrandsen) writes:
>Charter: To provide a forum for the discussion of the various
>brainchildren of Sir Clive (born Clive Sinclair) and related
>computers such as the Jupiter Ace, TK95, SAM Coupe and never-to-be
>Thor, software, peripherals, emulators for them, programming them;
>playing those wonderful games (6031769, anyone?); and anything else
>which interests the Sinclair community.

I would surely like to talk about home-made hardware for these machines too!

If possible the group could connect usergroups arround the world with
eachother. Does somebody from the Dutch HCC-Sinclair gebruikesgroep have
comments on this? Hopefully other user groups still exist too!

Aside:
About a C5, a local store - that sold Sinclar computers and B&O audio stuff
(they seemed to go very well thogether here) - had one, the owner's son used
the thing in the city. I thought is was very dangerous because you could
hardly spot this low-by-the-gound vehicle from your family car.

This store also has a real ZX80 running in the shop. Some youngsters were
busy programming it. The program was one 'print' statement printing the
shop's logo in block-graphics. They made a mistake at about the end of the
line and it took a lot af stepping though the line to get to the point of the
error (no auto-repeat, each cursor move the whole line was redrawn, during
the redraw the screen was black - it was a very tedious job).

Anyway you'll get my full support for the group! There is also a C64 (Comodore)
related group so the sinclair group should have been there already long time
ago! This is a great oportunity to at least catch up. Is the C64<->Spectrum war
also within the Charter? Should it?

Henk.

--
/ / Henk de Groot | Dep.: Info Access products
/---/ __ __ / Loc: V2/A05 | Mail: gr...@idca.tds.philips.nl
/ / (-_ / / /( Tel: +31 55 432104 | Digital Equipment Corporation

I108...@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de

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Oct 5, 1993, 2:10:14 PM10/5/93
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In article <groot.7...@saturnus.idca.tds.philips.nl>
gr...@idca.tds.philips.nl (Henk de Groot) writes:

[Sinclair computers]

>I would surely like to talk about home-made hardware for these machines too!

Me too! I analyzed the hardware of the +D, the Disciple, Multiface128 etc...
I constructed a 10 MHz Spectrum128... The hardware for the SCSI interface
(really!) to connect a harddisk is 90% finished.

I really want that newsgroup!

[...]

>Anyway you'll get my full support for the group! There is also a C64
>(Comodore) related group so the sinclair group should have been there
>already long time ago! This is a great oportunity to at least catch up.
>Is the C64<->Spectrum war also within the Charter? Should it?

I think it should not. I think we should be busy with our Sinclair hard-
and software, not flaming other computer owners.

Hanno Foest.

Med Hynek (IN)

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Oct 4, 1993, 11:58:09 AM10/4/93
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Wow ! Still keeping my Speccy at home, I'd love to see such newsgroup.
You have my support !

--

Arnt Gulbrandsen

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Oct 7, 1993, 9:37:28 AM10/7/93
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I posted this to news.groups on October 4th; I wasn't aware that
an RFD must be posted to news.announce.newsgroups as well as
news.groups to be valid. Thanks to the two people who told me.
I assume the date of this posting marks the official start of the
discussion period.

Here's the RFD text:

I want to create a newsgroup, comp.sys.sinclair, to replace a
little-known mailing list which is going away soon, when its owner
loses that account. I would prefer a newsgroup rather than a new
mailing list (which I can host) since people seem to be bad at
finding mailing lists, but good at grepping through the list of
active newsgroups.

Charter: To provide a forum for the discussion of the various


brainchildren of Sir Clive (born Clive Sinclair) and related
computers such as the Jupiter Ace, TK95, SAM Coupe and never-to-be
Thor, software, peripherals, emulators for them, programming them;
playing those wonderful games (6031769, anyone?); and anything else

which interests the Sinclair community. The group will not be
moderated. If, at some future date, someone should want to make it
moderated, the same procedure should be followed as for the creation
of a new USENET group at that time.

Now, of course you all know this, but: Sir Clive is a British
genius who's built a number of remarkable computers since the late
seventies and sold some 5-10 million of them, mostly Spectrums.
`Remarkable' is not necessarily positive... there are quite a few
remarks to be made about his cost-cutting techniques, for instance.
--
Arnt Gulbrandsen, agu...@nvg.unit.no

Yes, I know, two .sigs. No need to flame me... unless you really want to?

Aaron Priven

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Oct 7, 1993, 12:37:45 PM10/7/93
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agu...@nvg.unit.no (Arnt Gulbrandsen) wrote in article <comp.sys.si...@uunet.uu.net> :
>I want to create a newsgroup, comp.sys.sinclair ...

: The following is a list of currently active USENET newsgroups as of
: 1 December, 1983.

[many groups deleted]

: net.micro Micro computers of all kinds.
: net.micro.zx Subgroup for zx's.

... so what happened to the old one? Don't tell me it got lost in the
big reorganization!

=Aaron=
--
Aaron Priven; Santa Clara, CA, USA. aar...@netcom.com.
"Those of us who are really outraged by what the media is doing spend
quite a bit of time asking the question 'But what can we do?' This is
hardly the refrain of an empowered people who believe we govern ourselves."
-- Eve Munson

Evan Leibovitch

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Oct 8, 1993, 5:09:27 PM10/8/93
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Will this also be a place to discuss those neat little hifi units that
Clive designed before getting into computers. Are these still being
built?
--
Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
ev...@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
"Preston Manning looks and sounds like Howdy Doody with a gun" - CvD

CARASSO

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Oct 13, 1993, 10:45:25 AM10/13/93
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How about comp.sys.sinclair.doorstop?
I see a great need.


--
Roger Carasso ______________________________________________
My thoughts expressed, suppressed, depressed, impressed do
not represent Inference Corp, certainly, or anyone else
for that matter, other than myself and my wife Pia Zadora.
____________________________________________________________

Adam David

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Oct 15, 1993, 7:13:50 AM10/15/93
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car...@Inference.COM (CARASSO) writes:

>How about comp.sys.sinclair.doorstop?
>I see a great need.

Hey, cut the sarcasm. This is not only about little black boxes with horrible
keyboards, single-key BASIC and doomed "microdrives". The Spectrum was the
most popular micro for a while, and people are still emulating it on other
hardware just to be able to continue playing those amazing games that were
published for it.

The QL was 1 decade before its time, and the rest of the world is only now
catching up. Now it is possible to buy for a reasonable price a 68040 based
QL card for PC computers, with an almost completely rewritten OS by the
original author. The OS runs on Atari and Amiga 680x0 machines as well as
the QXL card.

The Z88 was the first portable computer of its kind, about 5 years ahead
of the rest of the world with some useful technological innovations.

The wafer-scale integration project was the first reasonable product to
market with a solid-state "hard disk".

The PGC-7600 CPU is a clever little design. I hope it is going places.

I wonder what else they are up to? :-)

--
Adam David <ad...@veda.is>

Arnt Gulbrandsen

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Oct 17, 1993, 8:05:45 PM10/17/93
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I've received enough replies to my RFD for me to hope the group will
carry. Unfortunately, I've told the respondents that they don't
have to post if they think the group name is correct (and do they!)
and my suggested charter is good (and the second, expanded
suggestion seems to be).

All seemed well until today, when someone told me he thought the RFD
should only be followed by an RFD if there's enough interest in
news.groups. I couldn't see anything about that in the FAQ and told
him he's wrong. Ron Dippold (who will handle the vote-taking) just
told me he's right, but that it's pretty much up to me to decide how
much interest is required.

I have replies from about 50-60 people in my mailbox right now and
some more archived: I can ask them to make noise in news.groups if
that's required, but I don't want to, I think news.groups has enough
traffic as it is, and if a CFV can be posted on November 6th without
it I think that's preferable.

Comments?

--Arnt

Mark James

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Nov 10, 1993, 3:25:46 PM11/10/93
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1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

Unmoderated group comp.sys.sinclair

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.sinclair Sinclair computers, eg. the ZX81, Spectrum and QL.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 December 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Mark James <jam...@dialogic.com>. For
questions about the proposed group, contact Arnt Gulbrandsen
<agu...@nvg.unit.no>.

The Call for Votes articles will also be sent to the Sincnews mailing
list <sinc...@mozart.aero.ufl.edu>, and to everyone who responded to
the RFD via email.


CHARTER
-------

To provide a forum for the discussion of the various brainchildren of
Sir Clive (born Clive Sinclair) and related computers such as the

Jupiter Ace, TK and TS series', SAM Coupe and never-to-be Thor,


software, peripherals, emulators for them, programming them; playing
those wonderful games (6031769, anyone?); and anything else which
interests the Sinclair community. The group will not be moderated. If,
at some future date, someone should want to make it moderated, the same
procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new USENET group
at that time.

The newsgroup will be gatewayed to, and eventually supersede, the
Sincnews mailing list mentioned above.


STANDARD VOTING INFO
--------------------

You should send E-MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to:

jam...@dialogic.com

(just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work, assuming your
newsreader software honors "Reply-To" headers). Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following statements:

I vote YES on comp.sys.sinclair
or
I vote NO on comp.sys.sinclair

You may add a comment, or use other wording, but only a definite,
unconditional, unambiguous statement for or against the creation of
comp.sys.sinclair will count as a vote.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count. You may also send in an "abstain" vote in the same
manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no". This will cancel
any previous vote, and will not otherwise be counted.

All votes will be acknowledged by E-mail. If you don't receive an
acknowledgment within a few days of your vote, vote again. A list of
any acknowledgment messages that bounce back to me is posted in the
second Call for Votes article. (CFV articles do *not* otherwise
contain mass vote acknowledgments.)

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. The requirements for group creation
are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all votes being YES.
--
Mark James <jam...@dialogic.com> *** Opinions, errors etc are mine. ***
Dialogic Corporation, 300 Littleton Road | "Wherever people feel free to
Parsippany NJ 07054, U.S.A. | smoke, I feel free to fart."
+1 201 334 1268 ext 438 Fax +1 201 334 1257| -- J-M DuFerre, chef, 1891

Mark James

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Nov 24, 1993, 2:28:38 PM11/24/93
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2nd CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)


CHARTER
-------


STANDARD VOTING INFO
--------------------

jam...@dialogic.com


BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
----------------------------

No vote acknowledgments have bounced.

Mark James

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Dec 7, 1993, 3:52:35 PM12/7/93
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VOTE RESULT

Unmoderated group comp.sys.sinclair

Voting closed on 2 December 1993 at 23:59:59 GMT. The results are:

Yes votes: 318
No votes: 27

This margin is adequate for newgroup creation. There will now be a
five-day period during which corrections to the vote count may be
made. Barring massive controversy about the vote, the group will
be created at the end of this period.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.

Vote-taker: Mark James <jam...@dialogic.com>
Group proponent: Arnt Gulbrandsen <agu...@nvg.unit.no>

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.sinclair Sinclair computers, eg. the ZX81, Spectrum and QL.


CHARTER (as printed in the Call for Votes)
-------

To provide a forum for the discussion of the various brainchildren of
Sir Clive (born Clive Sinclair) and related computers such as the
Jupiter Ace, TK and TS series', SAM Coupe and never-to-be Thor,
software, peripherals, emulators for them, programming them; playing
those wonderful games (6031769, anyone?); and anything else which
interests the Sinclair community. The group will not be moderated. If,
at some future date, someone should want to make it moderated, the same
procedure should be followed as for the creation of a new USENET group
at that time.

The newsgroup will be gatewayed to, and eventually supersede, the

Sincnews mailing list.


VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENT
-------------------

These lists are sorted in alphabetical order by login name, as taken
from the "From:" line. Note that certain UUCP addresses are mangled
somewhat in order to sort nicely.


YES votes were received from the following people:

10003...@CompuServe.COM (Chris FOWLER)
10012...@CompuServe.COM (Graham Underwood)
7037...@CompuServe.COM (Steve Adams)
8920...@vax1.dcu.ie (Dermot Mc Nally)
A.D.B...@exeter.ac.uk
A.G.J...@durham.ac.uk (A G Jackson)
a.je...@rutherford.ac.uk (Andrew Jessett)
A.R....@hertfordshire.ac.uk
a88...@zipi.fi.upm.es (L.Miguel Carmona)
aa...@freenet.carleton.ca (Ramesh Fernando)
aar...@netcom.com (Aaron Priven)
ad...@rhi.hi.is (Adam David)
Adrian_Sa...@rx.xerox.com
agu...@pvv.unit.no (Arnt Gulbrandsen)
alb...@fwi.uva.nl (Wout van Albada)
and...@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Andras Salamon)
Andreas...@ibt.unit.no (Andreas Heimdal)
and...@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Williams)
an...@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Andy Holyer)
an...@compnews.co.uk (Andrew Hird)
an...@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Andy Norman)
a...@beldin.sun.ac.za (Andries Dippenaar)
a...@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Jerrison)
ardt...@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Dale T. Long)
Arve....@ibt.unit.no (Arve Stavo)
aud...@wam.umd.edu (Michael Damian Audley)
AU...@asuvm.inre.asu.edu (Jon Massey)
BACK...@css.bham.ac.uk (Roger Backhouse [Economics])
bald...@bagniobagnio.equinox.gen.nz (John Nettleton)
ba...@CMU.EDU (Bartosz Blacha)
Bernhard_...@fr.maus.de (Bernhard Scheffold)
b...@befido.swb.de (Bernd Finger)
b...@herbison.com (B.J. Herbison)
bmcc...@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
bmc...@unix1.tcd.ie (Brendan McKeon)
bor...@stud.cs.uit.no (Borge Noest)
bou...@netcom.com (Drinks All The Water)
bre...@fm.unit.no (Rune Bremnes)
C.J.C...@newcastle.ac.uk (C.J.COULSON)
cal...@logcam.co.uk (Calum Benson)
car...@dcs.gla.ac.uk
cba...@cs.strath.ac.uk
cba...@computer-centre-sun.strathclyde.ac.uk (R.K.Thomson)
cca...@ucl.ac.uk (ccaakrt)
c...@dit.upm.es (Carlos Garcia Garcia)
chri...@daimi.aau.dk (Christer Hasse Leth Nielsen)
chu...@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Chua Hak Lien)
chub...@m10.ihep.su (MX::CHUBRIK_M)
chu...@canon.co.uk (Martin Chudley)
c...@admin.kth.se (Mikael Bj|rn)
com...@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
c...@chac.win.net (Kip Crosby)
cro...@nordsieck.cs.Colorado.EDU (Matthew Crosby)
C...@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk (Simon Cooke)
cs...@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr N J Kettlewell)
csz...@scs.leeds.ac.uk (W Towle)
cu...@csv.warwick.ac.uk (J M Hicks)
D.T.D....@exeter.ac.uk
D.W.W...@bnr.co.uk
d88...@nada.kth.se
d9...@hkr01.ide.hk-r.se (Fredrik Ekman)
dagr...@unix1.tcd.ie (David Graham)
dav...@harlequin.co.uk (David Hembrow)
dav...@x.co.uk (David Smith)
d...@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Mr. P.R.D Day)
db...@maths.tcd.ie (Derek Bell)
dboo...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (David Boothroyd)
dc52...@phobos.senecac.on.ca
dcnn...@unix1.tcd.ie (Donal Cunningham)
DCON...@delphi.com
de...@lore.kla.com (Dean Dierschow)
dife...@groucho.metsci.com (John DiFelici)
dla...@netcom.com (Dan Landry)
dm...@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Dimitris Margaritis)
dmu...@cwa.COM (Dan Murphy)
dnh@olly@mfltd.co.uk
dnichols@ceilidh (DoN. Nichols)
d...@CS.HUJI.AC.IL (Danny Halamish)
dp9...@txfs1.hfb.se (Heikki Julkunen - HFB T dp93)
dra...@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Rebecca Drayer)
dt...@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Thomas Richard Given)
dun...@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
dwa...@dgr.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
d...@VEGA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU
e9...@efd.lth.se (Rickard Jutegaard)
ed9...@brunel.ac.uk (Matthew D Wilson)
ees...@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Malcolm MacArthur)
eey...@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (Mike Knell)
el...@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (James Williams)
ep...@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric Pass)
ephi...@motown.ge.com
Eric_Gustafson_...@symantec.com (Eric Gustafson)
ER...@ACSPR1.acs.brockport.edu
Espen....@ibt.unit.no (Espen Iveland)
esp...@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
f9...@efd.lth.se (Peter Kaerde)
f...@wam.umd.edu (Marat Fayzullin)
fran...@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU (Gregory C Franklin )
fr...@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz (Bruce Clement)
Frode....@ibt.unit.no (Frode Teigen)
fro...@brosme.dhmolde.no (Frode Tennebo)
f...@rhi.hi.is (Finnbogi R. Ragnarsson)
g92m...@alpha.ru.ac.za (Brad Meier)
Gabrie...@f1.ki.se (Gabriel Fried f1)
Gard.Ab...@mrih.no (Gard Abrahamsen)
gay...@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Andrew Gaylard)
gb...@dcs.ed.ac.uk
geir.a....@ffi.no (Geir Atle Storhaug)
GER...@RcOndw.RuG.NL
gje...@nvg.unit.no (Tor Gjerde)
Gjermu...@ibt.unit.no
g...@unixb.nerc-pml.ac.uk (Gareth J Poxon PML)
gm...@columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
go...@CS.HUJI.AC.IL (Gilad Raz)
gr...@mv13a.physik.uni-marburg.de (Claus Graf)
gr...@pip.oci.utoronto.ca (David Iain Greig)
gr...@idca.tds.philips.nl (Henk de Groot)
h...@fimp02.fim.uni-linz.ac.at (Richard Hable)
h...@caty.north.de (Holger Lubitz)
harr...@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu
hau...@cs.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben)
hc...@de-montfort.ac.uk (Steve Burge)
HE...@rzi.ngate.uni-regensburg.de (Heiko Sawade (Praktikant Werling))
Herbert.A...@let.ruu.nl (Herbert Ruessink)
hlsc...@brahms.udel.edu (Herbert L Schaaf)
hod...@prl.philips.co.uk (Ben Hodson)
h...@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
h...@info.fundp.ac.be
h...@bigbird.asro.csk.co.jp (Gerzson Szinyei)
I008...@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE
I202...@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Hanno Foest)
ISAV...@gmuvax.gmu.edu (IOANNIS SAVVIDIS)
ISIMMOND%ESOC....@vm.gmd.de (Ian Simmonds ECD)
ism...@nyongwa.cam.org (Ismael Cordeiro)
iw...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
J.A....@durham.ac.uk (James Smith)
J.C.va...@research.ptt.nl (Kees van der Wal)
J.C....@hertfordshire.ac.uk
ja...@hicom.lut.ac.uk (Jamie Jones)
Jean_Aus...@me.maus.de (Jean Austermuehle)
je...@hpbeo82.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian)
jer...@suite.sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
je...@gr.ssr.upm.es (Jesus Folgueira)
jgr...@eo.com (John Grogan)
j...@ri.cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
jla...@uoguelph.ca (Jamie A Lawson)
jlot...@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk
jo9...@ox.ac.uk (Daniel Barlow)
john.de...@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk (john derbyshire)
jo...@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (John West)
j...@digibank.demon.co.uk (John Stonier)
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