CFV: comp.lang.php

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unmoderated group comp.lang.php

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.php PHP, server side scripting.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Jun 2002.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ian Fette <ife...@comcast.net>
Votetaker: David E. Smith <da...@technopagan.org>

RATIONALE: comp.lang.php

An alt.php newsgroup currently exists and is well used, and there is also an
alt.comp.lang.php group in existance. Not all servers carry alt.*
newsgroups, however, essentially splitting the PHP Usenet community. Almost
all news servers carry the comp.lang.* groups, which would make the group
more accessible to users, in addition to unifying the two "Usenet PHP
factions." Furthermore, every respected programming language has a group
under comp.lang.*. PHP has matured into a respected (and powerful) language
widely in use. As such, a group in the comp.lang.* hierarchy seems
appropriate at this time. Finally, posts in comp.lang.* groups are retained
longer than posts in alt.* groups on many servers, another reason that a
switch to a comp.lang.* group would benefit the PHP community.

CHARTER: comp.lang.php

comp.lang.php is intended to be a global forum for the discussion of issues
involving PHP. The ultimate goal is to create a relaxed yet helpful
environment in which people can seek answers to general questions about PHP,
specific questions regarding specific PHP functions or code snippets, or
topical questions.

The posting of binaries is generally frowned upon. When posting a specific
question about a piece of code or a function that you are having a problem
with, please include in your post a section of code as small as possible
that illustrates the problem you are having.

A group alt.php.sql also currently exists, but is less frequently used than
alt.php. Since database connectivity is a large part of PHP, it will be
considered topical in comp.lang.php. A comp.lang.php.sql is not deemed
necessary at the current point in time, however may be proposed at a later
point should the need arise.

END CHARTER.

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This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Feb 26 2001).
PQ datestamp: 980322

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