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Re: Comp.infosystems.gemini RFD LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS

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Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 8, 2021, 3:10:30 PM10/8/21
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Jason Evans <jse...@big-8.org> wrote:

>PROCEDURE:

>Please refer to the newsgroup creation policies listed here:

> http://www.big-8.org/wiki/How_to_Create_a_New_Big-8_Newsgroup

>All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
>news.groups.proposals.

Hey, Jason? Nobody ever wanted to use news.groups.proposals except for
specific Bambies who were hugely embarassed by the two massive flame
fests -- the socmen proposal and the pondscum proposal both for
moderated newsgroups -- that they were partly to blame for instigating.

In the case of the Gemini proposal, the proposal was improved after
UNMODERATED discussion in news.groups.

Please change the rule about the followup RFD and just blame it on your
predecessors. There is an obvious reason why proposals are discussed in
the light of day in unmoderated newsgroups.

Jason Evans

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Oct 11, 2021, 3:01:37 AM10/11/21
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 19:10:28 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Hey, Jason? Nobody ever wanted to use news.groups.proposals except for
> specific Bambies who were hugely embarassed by the two massive flame
> fests -- the socmen proposal and the pondscum proposal both for
> moderated newsgroups -- that they were partly to blame for instigating.

Hi Adam,

I'll put this on the topic list for the next meeting on Friday. I'm not
familiar with either of these incidents. Can you provide me with some
more details on this such as when these happened and what subject lines I
should look for so I can do some research on why this was put in place?

Jason

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 11, 2021, 11:31:06 AM10/11/21
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It looks like it was way back in 2006, which is when I found the first
archived newgroup for news.groups.proposals.

soc.men.moderated (socmen proposal) was proposed in 2006.
news.groups.proposals was 2006, in reaction to this discussion. This
newsgroup was rmgrouped in 2014.

rec.ponds.moderated (pondscum proposal) was 2007, the first major
proposal discussion in the moderated newsgroup. This newsgroup was
rmgrouped in 2015.

No, I didn't save any of the discussion locally.
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