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Kathy Morgan

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:04:08 PM11/10/09
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Good news! For any of you who had noticed that news.newusers.questions
was broken, it is now back in operation, thanks to help from Alexander
Bartolich and Albasini.net. You can once again direct newbies to NNQ
for help when you see newbie mistakes in other groups.

Thanks, Alexander!

--
Kathy

Peter J Ross

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:18:51 PM11/10/09
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In news.groups on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:04:08 -0900, Kathy Morgan
<kmo...@spamcop.net> wrote:

> Good news! For any of you who had noticed that news.newusers.questions
> was broken, it is now back in operation, thanks to help from Alexander
> Bartolich and Albasini.net. You can once again direct newbies to NNQ
> for help when you see newbie mistakes in other groups.

I wasn't aware that there was a problem. It's not unusual for NNQ to
be empty, alas.

Hmmm....

"Hello, top-posting fuckwit! Please stop being a top-posting fuckwit.
If you have any questions about top-posting fuckwittery, please ask in
NNQ. If you have any questions about cheap suicide methods that are so
simple that even a top-posting fuckwit can use them, try ASH instead."

But seriously, I sometimes try to save clueless newbies from
themselves. Pointing them to NNQ might be a better idea than
encouraging them to persist in posting where they attract unfriendly
attention.

> Thanks, Alexander!

What exactly did he do? (I'm not being sarcastic. I'm sure he did
something very useful, but I'd like to know what, so that other people
can learn how to do the same when needed in the future.)

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Kathy Morgan

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:08:16 PM11/11/09
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Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:

> But seriously, I sometimes try to save clueless newbies from
> themselves. Pointing them to NNQ might be a better idea than
> encouraging them to persist in posting where they attract unfriendly
> attention.

I've seen that, and often a newbie can be given a clue in place. But if
they need a lot of clues and the environment starts turning nasty, do
send them to NNQ for assistance in a friendly atmosphere.

> What exactly did he do? (I'm not being sarcastic. I'm sure he did
> something very useful, but I'd like to know what, so that other people
> can learn how to do the same when needed in the future.)

He has provided hosting and web-based moderation software on
albasani.net. NNQ was hosted at presby.edu for over a decade, but then
about seven months ago the hosting account and email address for the
moderator there turned into a black hole. The remaining moderator with
me as backup are going to try to revive the group.

--
Kathy

Peter J Ross

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:02:31 PM11/13/09
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In news.groups on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:08:16 -0900, Kathy Morgan
<kmo...@spamcop.net> wrote:

> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> But seriously, I sometimes try to save clueless newbies from
>> themselves. Pointing them to NNQ might be a better idea than
>> encouraging them to persist in posting where they attract unfriendly
>> attention.
>
> I've seen that, and often a newbie can be given a clue in place. But if
> they need a lot of clues and the environment starts turning nasty, do
> send them to NNQ for assistance in a friendly atmosphere.

It's important for the friendly atmosphere not to be patronising. NNQ
should be a source of useful information, not a source of pats on the
head. (But you know that.)

>> What exactly did he do? (I'm not being sarcastic. I'm sure he did
>> something very useful, but I'd like to know what, so that other people
>> can learn how to do the same when needed in the future.)
>
> He has provided hosting and web-based moderation software on
> albasani.net.

Excellent! Thanks, Alexander!

How does it compare with robomod.net?

> NNQ was hosted at presby.edu for over a decade, but then
> about seven months ago the hosting account and email address for the
> moderator there turned into a black hole. The remaining moderator with
> me as backup are going to try to revive the group.

Have you asked "the usual suspects" to join your team? Two moderators
may not be enough for a group where users may not understand why
articles sometimes take a long time to appear.

"The Great One"

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:43:24 AM11/14/09
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"Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message news:slrnhfs0d...@pjr.gotdns.org...

> In news.groups on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:08:16 -0900, Kathy Morgan
> <kmo...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> But seriously, I sometimes try to save clueless newbies from
> >> themselves. Pointing them to NNQ might be a better idea than
> >> encouraging them to persist in posting where they attract unfriendly
> >> attention.
> >
> > I've seen that, and often a newbie can be given a clue in place. But if
> > they need a lot of clues and the environment starts turning nasty, do
> > send them to NNQ for assistance in a friendly atmosphere.
>
> It's important for the friendly atmosphere not to be patronising. NNQ
> should be a source of useful information, and a source of pats on my
> groin.
> --
> PJR :-o<==8

Don't you ever get enough dick, Wookie-Boi ??
--
John C.

Kathy Morgan

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Nov 14, 2009, 3:19:46 AM11/14/09
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Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:

> In news.groups on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:08:16 -0900, Kathy Morgan
> <kmo...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > He has provided hosting and web-based moderation software on
> > albasani.net.
>
> Excellent! Thanks, Alexander!
>
> How does it compare with robomod.net?

Pretty comparable, I think, although I don't have enough experience with
it yet to make a good comparison.

> > The remaining moderator with me as backup are going to try to revive the
> > group.
>
> Have you asked "the usual suspects" to join your team? Two moderators
> may not be enough for a group where users may not understand why
> articles sometimes take a long time to appear.

No, I haven't. So far there haven't been any submissions other than our
own, so it's a little hard to claim any kind of urgency. I imagine that
if traffic redevelops, we can probably ask back some of the old
co-moderators. (NNQ was the first group I ever moderated, and at one
time had quite a large team of moderators.)

--
Kathy

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