net.pedophiles Re: ny-nj-pa area please post missing child
Fluffy The Cat
Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
man down the street".
In article <60oprv$6...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Kim" says...
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>dear net citizens if you have web site in this area please post
>where you can
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>Massive search for missing 11-year-old in Jackson Township
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>Published in the Asbury Park Press 9/29/97
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>By WARREN WOODBERRY JR.
>TOMS RIVER BUREAU
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>JACKSON TOWNSHIP, NJ -- Police continued their search last night for an
>11-year-old township boy who was last seen Saturday when he was selling
>candy in the Brookwood Four development.
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>Police said Edward P. Werner was last spotted by neighbors on Wisconsin
>Drive at 5:30 p.m. The boy's father, Ed, said his son had gone out alone at
>3 p.m. The father started to worry about his son around 7 p.m. when he
>didn't return home. Police said the parents called neighbors and friends
>and searched themselves, then reported their son missing at 11 p.m.
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>Police said a boy fitting Edward's description was seen at about 9 p.m.
>Saturday at the Wawa food store near New Prospect and Aldrich Roads. Edward
>had more than $200 in cash from candy sales for his school. He was showing
>off the money to his friends, police said.
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>"He had a lot of money on him," said Edward's mother, Valerie, yesterday.
>She said she knew he kept the money from ongoing candy sales in an
>envelope, but didn't think to tell him to leave it at home.
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>"I looked in the house and I couldn't find it anywhere," Mrs. Werner said
>of the candy sale proceeds.
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>Accompanied by her mother, Lillian, Mrs. Werner walked through the
>neighborhood looking for her son yesterday.
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>Neighbors had first suspected that Edward might have been with a vagrant
>who is known to frequent the area and speak to children. But after
>investigation, police said the man was not considered a suspect.
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>Police also said a security guard at a nearby Edwards supermarket reported
>seeing two men in a black car with a young boy in the parking lot at 10
>a.m. yesterday. The license plate number was reported to police and the car
>was traced to an Allentown address, where police were to check.
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>Police said Edward has no history of running away from home, and his mother
>said he had no problems with students at school or with other children in
>the neighborhood.
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>Search and rescue efforts were coordinated with the Jackson Fire Department
>and first aid units, Lakewood Fire Department, and the Freehold Acres Fire
>Department.
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>"It's always a massive effort that goes on," Jackson police officer Charles
>Webster said of the search. "He's a pretty liked and well-known kid."
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>Edward is white, 4 feet 6 inches tall and weighs 60 pounds. He has brown
>eyes, a brown crewcut and was last seen wearing black jeans, a black shirt
>and black sneakers. He has a mild case of Tourette's syndrome, with mild
>facial twitching when nervous.
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>Friends and neighbors stood outside the family home on Claridge Drive
>yesterday waiting for police to return with answers, while Edward's two
>younger sisters and younger brother waited inside. Neighbors canvassed the
>neighborhood with Edward's picture and posted fliers at area stores.
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>Police searched a wooded section between the Brookwood Four development and
>the neighboring Oakley Hills development, where the Werners live. Police
>believe he used the woods as a shortcut to go between developments. Units
>began yesterday's search at 8 a.m. with the assistance of a state police
>helicopter.
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>Members of the Ocean County Sheriff's Department K-9 unit conducted a
>door-to-door search in the Brookwood Four development. Police dogs took a
>sample scent from Edward's room to see if they could pick up his scent at
>homes he visited on Saturday.
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>Police searched sewer lines and conducted a walk-through search between
>Woodlane and Ashford roads, and between New Prospect Road and the Howell
>Township-Monmouth County boundary. By last evening, police were conducting
>their second search of the areas.
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>Sandra Winant of Ashford Road in Oakley Hills said she bought candy from
>Edward on Thursday when he visited her home. She said Edward sells candy
>every year and that he's one of the top sellers at Christa McAuliffe Middle
>School.
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>"He already had his prize picked out, a set of walkie-talkies," Winant
>said. She said Edward often played with boys two doors down from her house.
>She described him as friendly, ambitious and a good salesman.
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>Winant said that on Saturday, Edward was trying to find out from neighbors
>where a little girl lived so he could sell her some candy, but she said he
>never got to the girl's house.
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>"I'm sick to my stomach," Winant said, holding her 21-month-year-old
>daughter, Jennalyn, in her arms. "To think of something like this happening
>here."
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>Anyone with any information should contact Jackson police at (732)
>928-1111.
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>Posted: 09/29/97 01:00:29 PM
DF
Fluffy The Cat wrote:
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> Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
> Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
> is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
>
> There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
> that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
> man down the street".
The problem is a seriously one of privacy, double jeopardy, possible
revenge against the ex-cons, etc...
Vote to increase prison terms, mandatory counseling, castration, etc...
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Fluffy The Cat
Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
man down the street".
In article <60oprv$6...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Kim" says...
Josh Hesse
Why does this thread sound like it was started by John Grubor?
DF (dfr...@vt.edu) wrote:
: Fluffy The Cat wrote:
: >
: > Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
: > Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
: > is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
: >
: > There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
: > that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
: > man down the street".
:
: The problem is a seriously one of privacy, double jeopardy, possible
: revenge against the ex-cons, etc...
:
: Vote to increase prison terms, mandatory counseling, castration, etc...
:
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Am I wrong to believe that you are suffering from "paranoia"?
I read and re-read the news item and from what I read I found a story
of a missing boy and a missing envelope alleged to cantain about
$200.00.
Nowhere in the item was it reported that he was definitely seen in the
company of a possible "pedophile".
To assume he was taken away by a "pedophile" is a large assumption, in
this case. Kids of his age have been known to leave home areas when
they accumulate large sums of money. They regret it and return home and
confess they made a mistake. It id highly probable that he was taken by
fellow age kids, tied up, and his money stolen.
The police did not infer they were seeking to apprehend a felon for
his abductor and until there is far more evidence apparent than has
already been shown it is not right to assume a parents worst case
scenario.
Pedophiles are a danger to all kids but to blame every missing kid on
the pedophiles is taking "paranoia" to the outer limits. I am not
defending pedophiles but I do feel we need more evidence before we
launch a "vigilante' call every time some one is missing.0
Just my opinion, nobody asked.
Politas
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0009...@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) put appendages to keyboard on 30
Sep 1997 05:07:59 GMT, to write:
>Why does this thread sound like it was started by John Grubor?
Because it was? Grubor is behind the net.pedophiles suggestion, if he
didn't actually make it himself.
>: > Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
>: > Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
>: > is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
>: >
>: > There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
>: > that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
>: > man down the street".
>:
>: The problem is a seriously one of privacy, double jeopardy, possible
>: revenge against the ex-cons, etc...
The problem with the concept of net.pedophiles is that it is creating
groups which are designed for libel. There are two possibilities.
1) Wild, unconfirmed accusations would be given some semblance of
verity simply because of the group name, so that innocent people would
have their reputations smeared.
2) The entire hierarchy becomes a big joke, and the term
"pedophile" would lose its meaning, as it is abused by kooks applying
it to anyone who disagrees with them.
I quote John Grubor:
"Remember, anyone who disagrees with us in this is a
...pedophile" [sentence trimmed, but meaning not changed]
Grubor makes it quite obvious that he uses the term as a weapon.
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In article <60panr$6...@drn.zippo.com>, flu...@mit.edu(Fluffy The Cat) wrote:
+ Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
+ Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
+ is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
Nah, Flake-fluffy. He's missing because he foolishly flashed $200.
Momma Nature looks upon stupidity as a serious crime, and often-times
exacts a heavy price.
James - I can't explain why she hasn't zapped you, yet...
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This is BULLSHIT!
EVERYONE knows that JOHN GRUBOR is the #1 pedophile in the tri-state
area. He is more queer than a three dollar bill.
Raoul D. Xemblinosky III
David Rosenfield, King of Northumbria wrote:
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> On 29 Sep 1997 15:39:55 -0700, flu...@mit.edu(Fluffy The Cat) spake
> thusly:
>
> ;
> ;Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
> ;Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
> ;is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
> ;
> ;There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
> ;that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
> ;man down the street".
>
> information on pedophiles can be spread across the country, and we can
> stop such sick people? I look forward to such a universal and
> unifying system.
>
> Controlled by the meowers.
You mean Fluffy, I assume?
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;
;Below is a specific example of why net.pedophiles is necessary.
;Children need to be protected and Megan's law being overturned
;is probably the reason this poor child is missing.
;
;There needs to be a forum to expose pedophiles to the world so
;that parents can better protect their children from "that nice
;man down the street".
Won't it be great when all the world is using usenet, so that
information on pedophiles can be spread across the country, and we can
stop such sick people? I look forward to such a universal and
unifying system.
Controlled by the meowers.
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