Re: Another forged post
Maxwell
says...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
> > Another forged post
>
> The last recognizable provider host name in the PATH header belongs to
> altopia.net. If one of their customers is preloading the PATH and also
> forging your e-mail, that customer appears to be in violation of even
> Altopia's liberal policies. See their FAQ questions on forgeries and PATH
> pre-loading:
>
> https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html
>
> Then attempt to contact them and explain in what manner the post is in
> violation of their use terms and politely request they cancel that person's
> account if it is indeed one of theirs - be sure to include all the headers
> of the offending post. Also be sure to ask if they have a genuine peer that
> uses the node name ACLU.cowards.run.from.the.NOTB and if so, ask them if
> they can provide contact information.
Yet another chowder-head.
I own the luv2...@live.com e-mail address, fool, so I'm not
"forging" anyone.
And what part of "valid (or valid looking) site name" don't you
understand?
But if'n you want to pin a bullseye to your own chest, feel free.
--
"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
Jim Logajan
> In article <Xns9AA66D432287...@216.168.3.30>, Jim Logajan
> says...
>
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
>> > Another forged post
>>
>> The last recognizable provider host name in the PATH header belongs
>> to altopia.net. If one of their customers is preloading the PATH and
>> also forging your e-mail, that customer appears to be in violation of
>> even Altopia's liberal policies. See their FAQ questions on forgeries
>> and PATH pre-loading:
>>
>> https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html
>>
>> Then attempt to contact them and explain in what manner the post is
>> in violation of their use terms and politely request they cancel that
>> person's account if it is indeed one of theirs - be sure to include
>> all the headers of the offending post. Also be sure to ask if they
>> have a genuine peer that uses the node name
>> ACLU.cowards.run.from.the.NOTB and if so, ask them if they can
>> provide contact information.
>
> Yet another chowder-head.
>
> I own the luv2...@live.com e-mail address, fool, so I'm not
> "forging" anyone.
Fair enough - I've sent you an e-mail to you at that address. Definitely
don't want to get caught in the crossfire of some emotionally charged
individuals.
But I'm pretty sure the way I phrased things doesn't accuse anyone of
forgery - it is offered advice, nothing more. I'd have offered the same
advice to you if you were on the receiving end of someone's obessive
attacks.
By the way, if your name is not Maxwell, then it may be that posting with
an e-mail similar, even if not identical, to another person's may be in
violation of the terms of service of live.com; specifically:
"Don't pretend to be someone you're not
* Do not attempt to impersonate any other person through any means."
From: http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=searchtou&market=en-us#faq0
I'm sure you believe that all you have to do to insure you aren't legally
guilty of forgery or impersonation is to create an account name identical
in all respects except the target's domain. Maybe that'll work, maybe
not. Courts are costly in time and money. Frankly I think it's a dubious
legal stand and I can't see any reward that merits the legal risk. It may
not pay to push the envelope on the tactic.
Just my humble opinion.
Maxwell
says...
Anything you want to say to me, you can say here in as public froup.
> But I'm pretty sure the way I phrased things doesn't accuse anyone of
> forgery - it is offered advice, nothing more. I'd have offered the same
> advice to you if you were on the receiving end of someone's obessive
> attacks.
>
> By the way, if your name is not Maxwell, then it may be that posting with
> an e-mail similar, even if not identical, to another person's may be in
> violation of the terms of service of live.com; specifically:
>
> "Don't pretend to be someone you're not
>
> * Do not attempt to impersonate any other person through any means."
>
> From: http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=searchtou&market=en-us#faq0
>
> I'm sure you believe that all you have to do to insure you aren't legally
> guilty of forgery or impersonation is to create an account name identical
> in all respects except the target's domain. Maybe that'll work, maybe
> not. Courts are costly in time and money. Frankly I think it's a dubious
> legal stand and I can't see any reward that merits the legal risk. It may
> not pay to push the envelope on the tactic.
You don't earn the right to fly the NOTB flag until you've won at least
one k00ksuit.
Why not go ask the ACLU what my Path: preload means?
Bertie the Bunyip
news:Xns9AA77AC2D3F4...@216.168.3.30:
>
> I'm sure you believe that all you have to do to insure you aren't
> legally guilty of forgery or impersonation is to create an account
> name identical in all respects except the target's domain. Maybe
> that'll work, maybe not. Courts are costly in time and money. Frankly
> I think it's a dubious legal stand and I can't see any reward that
> merits the legal risk. It may not pay to push the envelope on the
> tactic.
>
> Just my humble opinion.
Been done, failed......
Different providers take different stances on it. Some will allow
exactly what Alternative Maxwell is doing ( like altopia) others will
only allow froggery if it's obvious, i.e. the frogger can use the name
maxwell but if the associated addie was Max...@i.am.a.dumb.fjuk.com,
you couldn't use, for instance, Max...@i.am.a.dumb.fjuk.con or
something else so similar it isn't immediatly obvious to a casual
glance. But just using someone's name is never forgery. It's a common
thing to frogg someone's name to get him to squeal on endlessly about
it, but only the most clueless ever fall for that gambit.
Bertie