Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From Internet Vandals
Albert Ekman
anonymous internet thugs attempting to libel him. The perpetrators
posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a "Jersey-shore" town
in Ocean County, New Jersey,
Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially easy, so it is
likely further libel will appear. The only way this will ever be
addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a Clinton-era relic
meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
Court. It lives on in part, however, causing further harm. It
immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from responsibility for
spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
essentially amounts to stealing.
Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be remedied if the
law is changed. The defamation in his case was so egregious - and so
utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an example of what
happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
of recourse.
Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
Trade Commission prosecutions. But it's a stretch, legally. Some
balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation can have
a vehicle for justice.
The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others damaged in the
same way. Several other victims have called Novins, seeking
information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
providing information about some perpetrators. It's a serious uphill
battle to alter federal laws, but Novins, a 23-year practitioner, has
several times in the past been instrumental in changing laws.
These newsgroups listed in the header were among the many where the
original libel of Novins (and others) was posted, thus the general
reporting of this matter here.
Albert Ekman
Internet Vandals
richard
Perhaps your learned attorney at law should understand the basics.
You cannot sue the news stand or the public library.
This is in effect what usenet is, a library and a news stand.
Most, if not all the providers, including google, probably have no idea
what is in their library.
AG Dennis Vaco (NY) tried to have two providers in NY charged with
disseminating child pornography. He lost the case.
I was harrassed for years by a small band of self proclaimed watch dogs for
years. The main instigator would take anything I said out of context and
use it against me. A simple edited email gave me the moniker of "Richard
the stupid", which is still being applied today.
When I began posting using x-no-archive:yes, they couldn't link my posts
through the google archives. I was soon found to be of no interest to them.
However, I was able to learn the true identity of my chief instigator and
once I posted his real name, he simply disappeared.
Most who have harrassed me have since moved on to other prey.
If the words being said were that damning, and caused harm, then he should
have just filed the lawsuit and get the assholes into court where they can
have their say.
Sticks and stones may break my bones......
but words will never harm me.
Aratzio
Albert Ekman <atlasbug...@gmail.com> got double secret probation
for writing:
>69.253.107.178
Hi, Chuck.
Sock stinks.
Now, who is it moved your case to Federal Court under the diversity
rule?
Aratzio
>Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes
69.253.107.178
Too bad Comcast uses sticky IP on their DHCP.
Explain the Diversity rule as it applies to you case, Chuck:
Aratzio
richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for writing:
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:q8rlj55l1uv5oav8o...@4ax.com...
For good reason, though "Emmett the Dumbshit" is quietly moving ahead.
Jasen Betts
> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
> anonymous internet thugs attempting to libel him. The perpetrators
> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
> lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
>
> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a "Jersey-shore" town
> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
He also appears to have friends who are spammers.
> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a Clinton-era relic
> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
> Court. It lives on in part, however, causing further harm. It
> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from responsibility for
> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
> essentially amounts to stealing.
typical right-tard knee-jerk-off "it's stealing"
Bullshit.
> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be remedied if the
> law is changed.
Then the guy is an idiot. A law change is most unlikely to give him
redress against past wrongs.
> The defamation in his case was so egregious - and so
> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an example of what
> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
> of recourse.
Insanity apparently.
> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
> Trade Commission prosecutions. But it's a stretch, legally. Some
> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation can have
> a vehicle for justice.
sounds like he doesn't understand the internet.
> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others damaged in the
> same way. Several other victims have called Novins, seeking
> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
> providing information about some perpetrators. It's a serious uphill
> battle to alter federal laws, but Novins, a 23-year practitioner, has
> several times in the past been instrumental in changing laws.
>
> These newsgroups listed in the header were among the many where the
> original libel of Novins (and others) was posted, thus the general
> reporting of this matter here.
I don't recall reading it, but anonymous posts are worth about as
much as anonymous IOUs. (It was 5 months ago, someone is a little slow!)
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Robert Macy
Rather than hold those responsible that 'transfer' information without
review, wouldn't it make more sense to hold the ORIGINATORS
responsible? Which means, remove anonymity. Maintain complete
tracking capability. Guess that won't work all the time either, since
there are situations where truth should surface and the person who
brings that truth forward should be protected.
Any ideas how to do all this WITHOUT government intervention? Else,
there'll be a tax to pay for the 'service' of policing the 'net.
Aratzio
Robert Macy <ma...@california.com> got double secret probation for
writing:
>Rather than hold those responsible that 'transfer' information without
>review, wouldn't it make more sense to hold the ORIGINATORS
>responsible? Which means, remove anonymity. Maintain complete
>tracking capability. Guess that won't work all the time either, since
>there are situations where truth should surface and the person who
>brings that truth forward should be protected.
>
>Any ideas how to do all this WITHOUT government intervention? Else,
>there'll be a tax to pay for the 'service' of policing the 'net.
>
>
How about we do it the easy way:
1. those who are functionally incapable of not reading that which
upsets them, leave the interwebs.
2. those who require that all messages be to their liking, move to a
moderated web board.
3. those who feel they need to control the words of others, fuck
themselves with a spintered wooden spoon, then leave.
The rest of us that have a modicum of common sense will remain.
"The Great One"
"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hherge$spg$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> Nellie, DisHonest John, tommigrlll Evans, and Russell *sock* Tavek.
>
> Pitiful, really.
>
> Fuck Novins, may he be amply rewarded for his k0oKiness
> --
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The process server is knocking on the moldy door of your ratzio infested trailer as we speak !!
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"The Great One"
"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:fdcnj5dns6nunamjk...@4ax.com...
That surely includes "you" leaving as you're almost as dumb as "Fat-Boi" Plow !!
No body could be dumber that the "Twinkie-Boi" !!
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"The Great One"
"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:q8rlj55l1uv5oav8o...@4ax.com...
[ ].
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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"The Great One"
"Meat Plow" <me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
> <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
Please entertain us by "FOADing" you Stupid Fat Slob !!
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Mad as a Box of Frogs
I dunno, it's lookin' neck and neck between him and Fudd Hall.
"The Great One"
"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message:
> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
> Internet Vandals
>
> F.K. Hall
IAWTP !!
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Your Pal,
HJ
Mad as a Box of Frogs
And speaking FOA dying - did Meat Plow really kill his wife?
Fred Hall
wrote:
> In article <VJ6dndj9q7EHKqbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdn...@centurytel.net>,
> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> >news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
Still waiting on your explanation of how a control message is the same
as a charter, lying pathetic, fuckstained daft canadien cunt
>
> --
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Sarah Ehrett
(Mad as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>And speaking FOA dying - did Meat Plow really kill his wife?
Ten years of sucking prison dick wasn't enough for you, Jailbird?
--------
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:01:37 +0000 (UTC), unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
In article <qkanj55908foqem07...@4ax.com>,
Sarah Ehrett <nine...@cox.net> wrote:
>>My holiday pictures
>>
>>http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/May2009.jpg
>>http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=223
>>
>>
>>
>Those are spectacular Sarah!
"[ Tom Evans ] looks like a cross between a corpse and a baboon ass. "
http://bayimg.com/faJBbaAcd
------------
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 31 Dez., 00:03, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
>wrote:
>> In article <VJ6dndj9q7EHKqbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdn...@centurytel.net>,
>> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >"Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
>> >news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
>> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
>> >> <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:20 -0700, in the land of news.groups,
>> >> >richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>> >> >>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:17:07 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
>> >> >>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>>
>> >> >>> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a "Jersey-shore" town
>> >> >>> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>>
>> >> >>> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
>> >> >>> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially easy, so it is
>> >> >>> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
>> >> >>> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
>> >> >>> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>>
>> >> >>> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a Clinton-era relic
>> >> >>> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
>> >> >>> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from responsibility for
>> >> >>> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
>> >> >>> essentially amounts to stealing.
>>
>> >> >>> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be remedied if the
>> >> >>> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an example of what
>> >> >>> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
>> >> >>> of recourse.
>>
>> >> >>> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
>> >> >>> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
>> >> >>> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation can have
>> >> >>> a vehicle for justice.
>>
>> >> >>> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others damaged in the
>> >> >>> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
Still waiting for you to post proof you came within 1000 miles of ever
taking on Russell Tavek.
MID or incident will do
You're seen to be a liar now Fudd - by everyone.
you geriatric 'merkin leaking bag of lying vile
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Mad as a Box of Frogs
Sarah Ehrett <nine...@cox.net> wrote:
>On 31 Dec 2009 01:03:39 +0100, Crybaby Tom Evans unde...@news.vrx.net
>(Mad as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>
>
>>And speaking FOA dying - did Meat Plow really kill his wife?
>
/<projectile vomit>
Sarah Ehrett
(Mad as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>Ten years of sucking Ken's dick wasn't enough for me
Nice confession, Jailbird.
x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-xxx
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:01:37 +0000 (UTC), Crybaby Tom Evans
unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
In article <qkanj55908foqem07...@4ax.com>,
Sarah Ehrett <nine...@cox.net> wrote:
>>My holiday pictures
>>
>>http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/ninety7gt/May2009.jpg
>>http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=223
>>
>>
>>
>Those are spectacular Sarah!
-------
"[ Tom Evans ] looks like a cross between a corpse and a baboon ass. "
http://bayimg.com/faJBbaAcd
x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-xxx
Fred Hall
wrote:
> In article <978dd5ae-83a2-4ec2-a29b-88f4a4a84...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 31 Dez., 00:03, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
> >wrote:
> >> In article <VJ6dndj9q7EHKqbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdn...@centurytel.net>,
> >> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> >> >"Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
> >> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
> >> >> <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:20 -0700, in the land of news.groups,
> >> >> >richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:17:07 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman wrote:
>
> >> >> >>> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
> >> >> >>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>
> >> >> >>> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a "Jersey-shore" town
> >> >> >>> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>
> >> >> >>> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
> >> >> >>> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially easy, so it is
> >> >> >>> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
> >> >> >>> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
> >> >> >>> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>
> >> >> >>> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a Clinton-era relic
> >> >> >>> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
> >> >> >>> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from responsibility for
> >> >> >>> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
> >> >> >>> essentially amounts to stealing.
>
> >> >> >>> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be remedied if the
> >> >> >>> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an example of what
> >> >> >>> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
> >> >> >>> of recourse.
>
> >> >> >>> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
> >> >> >>> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
> >> >> >>> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation can have
> >> >> >>> a vehicle for justice.
>
> >> >> >>> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others damaged in the
> >> >> >>> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
Again, lame shitstained canadien cunt, why are so concerned about my
spankings of Tavek?
>
> MID or incident will do
>
> You're seen to be a liar now Fudd - by everyone.
You are everyone?
>
> you geriatric 'merkin leaking bag of lying vile
Poor tommigrlll
Did the thought ever occur to you that Tavek is my sock?
Check my headers, pathetic canadien cunt
>
> --
> Master of Puppets Direct line and fax: 206-339-7561
> DENSA Life Achievement � Am I the only one with half a brain?
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 31 Dez., 00:23, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
>wrote:
>> In article
><978dd5ae-83a2-4ec2-a29b-88f4a4a84...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> >On 31 Dez., 00:03, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
>> >wrote:
>> >> In article <VJ6dndj9q7EHKqbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdn...@centurytel.net>,
>> >> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >"Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
>> >> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
>> >> >> <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:20 -0700, in the land of news.groups,
>> >> >> >richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:17:07 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >>> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
>perpetrators
>> >> >> >>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>>
>> >> >> >>> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a
>"Jersey-shore" town
>> >> >> >>> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>>
>> >> >> >>> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
>> >> >> >>> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially
>easy, so it is
>> >> >> >>> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
>> >> >> >>> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
>> >> >> >>> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>>
>> >> >> >>> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a
>Clinton-era relic
>> >> >> >>> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
>> >> >> >>> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from
>responsibility for
>> >> >> >>> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
>> >> >> >>> essentially amounts to stealing.
>>
>> >> >> >>> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be
>remedied if the
>egregious - and so
>> >> >> >>> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an
>example of what
>> >> >> >>> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
>> >> >> >>> of recourse.
>>
>> >> >> >>> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
>legally. �ｿｽSome
>> >> >> >>> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
>> >> >> >>> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation
>can have
>> >> >> >>> a vehicle for justice.
>>
>> >> >> >>> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others
>damaged in the
>> >> >> >>> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
More lies from Fred "skidmark" Hall. Address your lying Fred Hall.
You geriatric moron skidmark blight on humanity's sphincter.
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Fred Hall
wrote:
> In article <0abc88c9-807d-4e43-b6f3-ffac27feb...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 31 Dez., 00:23, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
> >wrote:
> >> In article
> ><978dd5ae-83a2-4ec2-a29b-88f4a4a84...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> >On 31 Dez., 00:03, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> In article <VJ6dndj9q7EHKqbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdn...@centurytel.net>,
> >> >> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >"Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
> >> >> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
> >> >> >> <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:20 -0700, in the land of news.groups,
> >> >> >> >richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:17:07 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >>> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
> >perpetrators
> >> >> >> >>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>
> >> >> >> >>> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a
> >"Jersey-shore" town
> >> >> >> >>> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>
> >> >> >> >>> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
> >> >> >> >>> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially
> >easy, so it is
> >> >> >> >>> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
> >> >> >> >>> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
> >> >> >> >>> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>
> >> >> >> >>> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a
> >Clinton-era relic
> >> >> >> >>> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
> >> >> >> >>> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from
> >responsibility for
> >> >> >> >>> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
> >> >> >> >>> essentially amounts to stealing.
>
> >> >> >> >>> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be
> >remedied if the
> >egregious - and so
> >> >> >> >>> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an
> >example of what
> >> >> >> >>> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
> >> >> >> >>> of recourse.
>
> >> >> >> >>> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
> >legally. �Some
> >> >> >> >>> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
> >> >> >> >>> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation
> >can have
> >> >> >> >>> a vehicle for justice.
>
> >> >> >> >>> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others
> >damaged in the
> >> >> >> >>> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
Prove Tavek is not my sock. Am I not posting through Google? Is my
IP not visible to you tommigrlll....oops, sorry, I forgot you aren't
too good at this internet thangy.
>
> You geriatric moron skidmark blight on humanity's sphincter.
lol...I like that one.
>
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Mad as a Box of Frogs
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 31 Dez., 00:41, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
>wrote:
>> In article
><0abc88c9-807d-4e43-b6f3-ffac27feb...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>> >On 31 Dez., 00:23, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
>> >wrote:
>> >> In article
>> ><978dd5ae-83a2-4ec2-a29b-88f4a4a84...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> >> >On 31 Dez., 00:03, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs)
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> In article <VJ6dndj9q7EHKqbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdn...@centurytel.net>,
>> >> >> \"The Great One\" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >"Meat Plow" <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:3dcjda.i...@news.alt.net...
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:04:20 -0800, Aratzio
>> >> >> >> <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:20 -0700, in the land of news.groups,
>> >> >> >> >richard <mem...@newsguy.com> got double secret probation for
>writing:
>>
>> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:17:07 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
>> >perpetrators
>> >> >> >> >>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes,
>all outright
>backed down.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a
>> >"Jersey-shore" town
>> >> >> >> >>> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the
>internet in such a
>> >> >> >> >>> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially
>> >easy, so it is
>will ever be
>> >> >> >> >>> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services
>ranging from
>> >> >> >> >>> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
>> >> >> >> >>> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a
>> >Clinton-era relic
>> >> >> >> >>> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by
>the Supreme
>> >> >> >> >>> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from
>> >responsibility for
>> >> >> >> >>> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
>> >> >> >> >>> essentially amounts to stealing.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be
>> >remedied if the
>> >egregious - and so
>> >> >> >> >>> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an
>> >example of what
>> >> >> >> >>> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any
>legal means
>> >> >> >> >>> of recourse.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been
>on Federal
>> >legally. �ｿｽSome
>> >> >> >> >>> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
>> >> >> >> >>> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation
>> >can have
>> >> >> >> >>> a vehicle for justice.
>>
>> >> >> >> >>> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others
>> >damaged in the
>> >> >> >> >>> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
Fudd you can put on Britney Spears' g-string for all I care ....
- but you're still Fudd Hall under the makeup.
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Linda
> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>
> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a "Jersey-shore" town
> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>
> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially easy,
Incorrect.
The SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring is comprised of A) rogue
psychologists, B) rogue law enforcement agents, rogue attorneys ,
and other miscreants who possess a great deal of experience utilizing
abusive interrogation techniques, C) malicious hackers, D)
investigators, private and otherwise, E) linguists, and, F) lots
and lots and lots of muscle i.e. killers, rapists, child molesters,
arsons, burglars, batterers, muscle men ad nauseum ad infinitum.
In a text based medium like Usenet and the WWW, the SPP/AUK Criminal
Cyberring's linguists role is essential to the success of the SPP/AUK
Criminal Cyberring's serial Racketeering, and, Conspiracy to
Blackmail, Terrorize, and/or Murder by Proxy.
In a text based medium like Usenet , the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring
would be at a loss without it's bevy of linguists because the SPP/AUK
Criminal Cyberring relies so heavily on linguistic oriented
misdirection to keep the focus off the reprehensible nature of the
aggressive and criminal activities of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring,
and, keep the focus on the innocent individuals whom the SPP/AUK
Criminal Cyberring serially and criminally Racketeers and Conspires to
Blackmail, Terrorize, and/or Murder by Proxy.
In a text based medium like Usenet, the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring
would also be lost without it's bevy of linguists because it's the SPP/
AUK Criminal Cyberring's bevy of linguists who perpetrate most, if
not all, the false flag operations which the SPP/AUK Criminal
Cyberring needs to manufacture a false pretext for the SPP/AUK
Criminal Cyberring's serial Racketeering and Conspiring to Blackmai,
Terrorize, and/or Murder by Proxy.
Most significant of all, the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring would be at a
loss without it's bevy of linguists, because, it's the SPP/AUK
Criminal Cyberring's linguists who out the personal identities of
those they target and each and every person who publishes articles
which disparage, denigrate, mocks and ridicules the members of the
SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring and/or their Racketeering and Conspiracy to
Blackmail, Terrorize and Murder by Proxy.
The SPP/AUK's Criminal Cyberring's success at outing the personal
identity of their targets and/or anyone who published articles in
which they disparage, denigrate, mock and ridicule the members of
the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring and/or their Racketeering and
Conspiring to Blackmail, Terrorize and Murder by Proxy is PROOF that
linguists can positively identity the author of most text.
If the SPP/AUK's Criminal Cyberring's linguists can, so can linguists
hired by their crime victims.
Furthermore, the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring has been operating for a
minimum of 16 or 17 years.
Myself and other crime victims of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring have
been calling upon local, state, federal and international law
enforcement agencies, as well as, sitting members of US Congress to
arrest, prosecute and imprison past and present members of the SPP/
AUK Criminal Cybering for Racketeering, and, Conspiring to
Blackmail, Terrorize, and Murder by Proxy, for well over a decade,
if not, since the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring's inception approximately
17 years ago.
When local, state, federal and international Law Enforcement
Agencies decided to turn a blind eye to the SPP/AUK's Criminal
Cyberring's Racketeering and Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorize and
Murder others by Proxy, all these local, state, federal and
international law enforcment agencies did so despite the public
documented fact that myself and many others were the recipients of a
non-stop stream of terroristic threats on the lives of ourselves and
our children, both before and after our original terrorists publicly
passed their torch over to the members of the SPP/AUK Criminal
Cyberring.
Given the non-stop terrorist threats being published by the
psychopaths cybersquatting in Usenet's topical forums, as well as,
the non-stop terrorist threats published by members of the SPP/AUK
Criminal Cyberring upon the torch being publicly passed onto to the,
AND, the high priority which terroristic threats are given in the
times we live in, there has NEVER existed any doubt in my mind that,
at a minimum, the US DOJ and FBI knows the identity of each and every
one of the psychopaths cybersquatting in Usenet's topical forums, as
well as, the identities of the members of the SPP/AUK Criminal
Cyberring.
However, the fact that both US DOJ and FBI have been turning a blind
eye to the criminal activities of the psychopaths cybersquatting in
Usenet's topical forums for @ 17 years, as well as, the criminal
activities of members of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring has made the
employees of the US DOJ and FBI Criminal Co-Conspirators ALA employees
of the DOJ/FBI permitting members of the KKK ample time to beat the
crap out of and/or kill bus passengers during the Civil Rights
Demonstrators in the 60's, which, a few FBI/DOJ were eventually
prosecuted for in the 90's.
Thus, neither the US DOJ nor the FBI are going to voluntarily fork
over any information that be helpful to the crime victims of a
Conspiracy to Blackmail, Terrorize, and/or Murder that they
themselves are criminal co=conspirators of.
However, it seems to me a Writ of Mandamus, or, some other Writ
could be utilized to COMPEL the US DOJ and FBI to furnish the
identities of the aforementioned cybercriminals to their crime
victims.
The only way this will ever be
> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
Although Defamation is the cornerstone of all the criminal activities
of the SPP/AUK Criminal Ring, Defamation is merely one element of
their crimes which are Racketeering and Conspiracy To Blackmail,
Conspiracy to Terrorize and Conspiracy to Murder by Proxy.
According to US Law, when an individual communicates the fact that
IF another individual doesn't say or do what the individual commands
them to do or say, THEN, their doing so constitutes the crime of
blackmail.
According to US Law, it doesn't matter if the defamation in question
has some basis in fact or reality, or, the defamation in question
was fabricated out of whole cloth i.e. "Kook" etc. ad nauseum ad
infinitum, communications which convey a threat to defame another if
the other doesn't say and do what the communicator commands them to
say or do constitute the Crime of Blackmail.
By definition, the "Loser Attitude Readjustment Training" which the
members of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring designed, implemented, and
executed to discourage and/or deter denizens of usenet from exercising
their inalienable and constitutional right to equal protection of US
Laws constitutes the Crime of Blackmail, in and of itself.
If the members of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyber-ring could find a way to
get around the fact that the "Loser Attitude Readjustment Training"
they designed, implemented, and executed constituted Racketeering
and Conspiracy to Blackmail, Terrorize, and Murder By Proxy, by
definition, then the remaining members of the SPP/AUK Criminal
Cyberring wouldn't have ceased utilizing the term LART when myself and/
or other crime victims exposed the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring as the
Blackmailers and Terrorists they all are.
The members of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyber-ring's dropping the term
LART or "Loser Attitude Readjustment Training" in response to myself
and others exposing them as Blackmailers and Terrorists constitutes
consciousness of Guilt of the crime of Blackmail and Terrorism.
However, their discontinuation of their use of the term LART or
"Loser Attitude Readjustment Training" to describe their activities
doesn't alter the fact that their activities constitute the crimes of
Racketeering, and, Conspiracy to Blackmail, Terrorize, and Murder
by Proxy.
The fact that local, state, federal, and international law
enforcement agencies continue to turn a blind eye to the criminal
activities of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring approximately 17 years
after it's inception, and, a decade or more after it's crime victims
called upon local, state, federal, and international law
enforcement agencies, as well as, sitting members of Congress to
take appropriate action to halt the criminal activities of the members
of the SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring gives Charles Novins and it's most
recent crime victims legal standing to file a Writ of Mandamus
COMPELLING the State of NJ, and/or the US Government to arrest and
prosecute the past and present members of the SPP/AUK Criminal
Cyberring for Racketeering, and, Criminal Conspiracy to Blackmail,
Terrorize, and Murder by Proxy.
http://dictionary.die.net/writ%20of%20mandamus
writ of mandamus
n : an extraordinary writ commanding an official to perform a
ministerial act that the law recognizes as an absolute duty and not a
matter for the official's discretion; used only when all other
judicial remedies fail [syn: mandamus]
Aratzio
Linda <indomi...@gmail.com> got double secret probation for
writing:
>The SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring
You are incorrect Linda the proper name is:
The SPP/AUK Criminal Cyberring Inc
A wholly owned subsidiary of
Planet Busters Inc. - A worldwide Criminal Enterprise
PBI brings you the best in mass crimes, individual crime, corporate
crime and cyber crime. Our SPP/AUK subsidiary specializes in online
harassment, stalking and can provide terminal services to a select
clientele.
Please update your records Linda.
Linda
Mea Culpa!
I meant to say ...
According to US Law, when an individual communicates the fact that IF
another individual doesn't say or do what the individual commands them
to, THEN, the former is going to globally defame the latter, their
doing so constitutes the Crime of Blackmail.
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Hey, we need some photos of Fudd for the "family" album, alongside ...
the defendants. Trade'em if'n ya got'em.
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Lady Veteran
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:17:07 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman wrote:
>
>> Charles Novins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
>> anonymous internet thugs attempting to libel him. The perpetrators
>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>> lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
>>
>> Novins is a prominent attorney from Toms River, a "Jersey-shore" town
>> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>>
>> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
>> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially easy, so it is
>> likely further libel will appear. The only way this will ever be
>> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
>> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
>> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>>
>> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a Clinton-era relic
>> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
>> Court. It lives on in part, however, causing further harm. It
>> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from responsibility for
>> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
>> essentially amounts to stealing.
>>
>> Novins hopes the damage that was caused to him can be remedied if the
>> law is changed. The defamation in his case was so egregious - and so
>> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an example of what
>> happens when the law leaves an injured party without any legal means
>> of recourse.
>>
>> Until the law is changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
>> Trade Commission prosecutions. But it's a stretch, legally. Some
>> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
>> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation can have
>> a vehicle for justice.
>>
>> The Novins firm is becoming a clearinghouse for others damaged in the
>> same way. Several other victims have called Novins, seeking
>> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
>> providing information about some perpetrators. It's a serious uphill
>> battle to alter federal laws, but Novins, a 23-year practitioner, has
>> several times in the past been instrumental in changing laws.
>>
>> These newsgroups listed in the header were among the many where the
>> original libel of Novins (and others) was posted, thus the general
>> reporting of this matter here.
>
>Perhaps your learned attorney at law should understand the basics.
>You cannot sue the news stand or the public library.
>This is in effect what usenet is, a library and a news stand.
>Most, if not all the providers, including google, probably have no idea
>what is in their library.
>
I don't think the provider is the issue. It is the idiots that defamed
him.
>AG Dennis Vaco (NY) tried to have two providers in NY charged with
>disseminating child pornography. He lost the case.
As well he should have. Again, the provider is not the issue. I do
think that providers should take a better stance on the use of
anonymous remailers and servers. I think they have responsibility in
that regard.
>
>I was harrassed for years by a small band of self proclaimed watch dogs for
>years. The main instigator would take anything I said out of context and
>use it against me. A simple edited email gave me the moniker of "Richard
>the stupid", which is still being applied today.
>
>When I began posting using x-no-archive:yes, they couldn't link my posts
>through the google archives. I was soon found to be of no interest to them.
>However, I was able to learn the true identity of my chief instigator and
>once I posted his real name, he simply disappeared.
So the idiot found other targets. What about stopping them from
forcing their psychosis on others.
>
>Most who have harrassed me have since moved on to other prey.
Is this the "better them than me" issue rearing it's ugly head?
>
>If the words being said were that damning, and caused harm, then he should
>have just filed the lawsuit and get the assholes into court where they can
>have their say.
That is what he is doing. He seems to be holding the provider
responsible for the issue mentioned above.
>
>Sticks and stones may break my bones......
>but words will never harm me.
But they can harm a well-fought for reputation and psychos who prey on
others should not use anonymous servers.
LV
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Aratzio
Anyone <""Zrqt�\"@Qi�QUm[�H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?"> got
double secret probation for writing:
>Aratzio wrote on 31-Dec-09 17:13 ...
>what -- no 'sekret decoder ring'?
>just whatinthehell kind o' club izit, anyway?
We use *embedded neural* technology, decoder rings are so 1960s.
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None of the "Gay caballers" of 'AUK' have any neurons....Roz !!
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Anyone <""Zrqt�\"@Qi�QUm[�H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?"> got
double secret probation for writing:
>Aratzio wrote on 02-Jan-10 21:41 ...
>MEMs and graphene?
Nah. big ass chips shoved in their noses.
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Up your ass.
Peter J Ross
random nature of his crossposting.]
In news.groups on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:01 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman
<atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
> Internet Vandals
>
> Charles Novins, Esq.,
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, kook?
> has received apologies from several of the
> anonymous internet thugs attempting to libel him.
1. Nobody has attempted to libel you except BowTie, who is one of your
staunchest allies in your famous and very funny kooksuit.
2. You haven't received any apologies. You *have* received a couple of
countersuits, filed with the assistance of competent lawyers, that
would terrify you if you weren't totally delusional at this stage of
your self-inflicted professional and social suicide.
> The perpetrators
> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
> lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
You get high by snorting powdered badger tusks, and your wife is a
prepubescent octopus whom you'd rape regularly if you'd experienced
even one erection since your hero Joe McCarthy died.
Sue me for that, Mister Lawyer Man.
I've been inviting you to sue me for *years* now, but it seems that
I'm just too scary for you to send your real-life kookery in my
direction.
> Novins is a
ludicrously delusional kook who is quite likely to be disbarred soon.
Yep! He sure is!
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Peter J Ross
<a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:45:01 -0800 (PST), in the land of news.groups,
> Robert Macy <ma...@california.com> got double secret probation for
> writing:
>
>>Rather than hold those responsible that 'transfer' information without
>>review, wouldn't it make more sense to hold the ORIGINATORS
>>responsible? Which means, remove anonymity. Maintain complete
>>tracking capability. Guess that won't work all the time either, since
>>there are situations where truth should surface and the person who
>>brings that truth forward should be protected.
>>
>>Any ideas how to do all this WITHOUT government intervention? Else,
>>there'll be a tax to pay for the 'service' of policing the 'net.
>>
>>
> How about we do it the easy way:
>
> 1. those who are functionally incapable of not reading that which
> upsets them, leave the interwebs.
>
> 2. those who require that all messages be to their liking, move to a
> moderated web board.
>
> 3. those who feel they need to control the words of others, fuck
> themselves with a spintered wooden spoon, then leave.
>
> The rest of us that have a modicum of common sense will remain.
I want the people who have no common sense to remain, so I can
continue to laugh a lot at their expense.
"The Great One"
"Peter J Ross" <p...@example.invalid> wrote in message news:slrnhk7mr...@pjr.motzarella.org...
> In news.groups on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:05:49 -0800, Aratzio
> <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:45:01 -0800 (PST), in the land of news.groups,
> > Robert Macy <ma...@california.com> got double secret probation for
> > writing:
> >
> >>Rather than hold those responsible that 'transfer' information without
> >>review, wouldn't it make more sense to hold the ORIGINATORS
> >>responsible? Which means, remove anonymity. Maintain complete
> >>tracking capability. Guess that won't work all the time either, since
> >>there are situations where truth should surface and the person who
> >>brings that truth forward should be protected.
> >>
> >>Any ideas how to do all this WITHOUT government intervention? Else,
> >>there'll be a tax to pay for the 'service' of policing the 'net.
> >>
> >>
> > How about we do it the easy way:
> >
> > 1. those who are functionally incapable of not reading that which
> > upsets them, leave the interwebs.
> >
> > 2. those who require that all messages be to their liking, move to a
> > moderated web board.
> >
> > 3. those who feel they need to control the words of others, fuck
> > themselves with a spintered wooden spoon, then leave.
> >
> > The rest of us that have a modicum of common sense will remain.
>
> --
> Peter "Eater" Ross > :-o<==8
Stop talking to yourself in the mirror......that's Creepy, Ross !!
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Move to America and say that, Coward !!
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Aratzio
alt.usenet.kooks, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> got double secret
probation for writing:
>In news.groups on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:05:49 -0800, Aratzio
><a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:45:01 -0800 (PST), in the land of news.groups,
>> Robert Macy <ma...@california.com> got double secret probation for
>> writing:
>>
>>>Rather than hold those responsible that 'transfer' information without
>>>review, wouldn't it make more sense to hold the ORIGINATORS
>>>responsible? Which means, remove anonymity. Maintain complete
>>>tracking capability. Guess that won't work all the time either, since
>>>there are situations where truth should surface and the person who
>>>brings that truth forward should be protected.
>>>
>>>Any ideas how to do all this WITHOUT government intervention? Else,
>>>there'll be a tax to pay for the 'service' of policing the 'net.
>>>
>>>
>> How about we do it the easy way:
>>
>> 1. those who are functionally incapable of not reading that which
>> upsets them, leave the interwebs.
>>
>> 2. those who require that all messages be to their liking, move to a
>> moderated web board.
>>
>> 3. those who feel they need to control the words of others, fuck
>> themselves with a spintered wooden spoon, then leave.
>>
>> The rest of us that have a modicum of common sense will remain.
>
>I want the people who have no common sense to remain, so I can
>continue to laugh a lot at their expense.
That is a given, they don't know they don't have common sense.
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> Mea Culpa!
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Dick Scumville (FreeSpeechStore)
wrote:
> CharlesNovins, Esq., has received apologies from several of the
> anonymous internet thugs attempting to libel him. The perpetrators
> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
> lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
>
> in Ocean County, New Jersey,
>
> Of course, the ability to post anonymously to the internet in such a
> way that it is impossible to be traced is now trivially easy, so it is
> likely further libel will appear. The only way this will ever be
> addressed is to hold the "publishers" - online services ranging from
> Google all the way down to bedroom-based chat-room providers -
> responsible, just as was done in the days of print publishing.
>
> The widely-despised "Communications Decency Act," a Clinton-era relic
> meant to censor the internet, was mostly struck down by the Supreme
> Court. It lives on in part, however, causing further harm. It
> immunizes the publisher of damaging defamation from responsibility for
> spreading the lies, the fraud, and for businesses harmed, in what
> essentially amounts to stealing.
>
> utterly false - that he hopes his case can serve as an example of what
> of recourse.
>
> Until thelawis changed or repealed, the focus has been on Federal
> Trade Commission prosecutions. But it's a stretch, legally. Some
> balance will need to be eventually made so that the internet can
> freely thrive, while at the same time, victims of defamation can have
> a vehicle for justice.
>
> same way. Several other victims have calledNovins, seeking
> information as to the laws, the technology, and in some cases,
> providing information about some perpetrators. It's a serious uphill
> several times in the past been instrumental in changing laws.
>
> These newsgroups listed in the header were among the many where the
> reporting of this matter here.
Let's hope that one the biggest k00ks on the internet, Richard Morton
Scoville of FreeSpeechStore infamy, is shut down and Scoville thrown
in jail for the rest of disgusting life.
Kadaitcha Man
incoherently wrote:
> Let's hope that one the biggest k00ks on the internet, Richard Morton
> Scoville of FreeSpeechStore infamy, is shut down and Scoville thrown in
> jail for the rest of disgusting life.
WOAH! Scovile has a life?
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Kadaitcha Man <an...@no.email> wrote:
>
> Some thievish kebab named Lady Veteran rapped:
>
> > I don't think
>
> True.
>
Zzzz.
Lamey the Cable Guy
<p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>[newsgroups line changed. I suspect Novins is spamming, given the
>random nature of his crossposting.]
>
>In news.groups on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:01 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman
><atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
>> Internet Vandals
>>
>> Charles Novins, Esq.,
>
>Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, kook?
Look who's talking. You and your ilk have turned this newsgroup to
shit. You're the k00k. You're so happy to libel Novins online, so
long as your coward ass is 6 time zones and an ocean away.
>
>> has received apologies from several of the
>> anonymous internet thugs attempting to libel him.
>
>1. Nobody has attempted to libel you except BowTie, who is one of your
>staunchest allies in your famous and very funny kooksuit.
No one has attempted to libel Novins? Except for some phantom you
call "Bowtie?" Are you out of your mind? So all that stuff you said
about his law firm was done by some phantom you call "Bowtie?"
You think it's funny or justified to attack somebody's way of making a
living? Some people understand that it's over the line. It happened
to me by the same kind of outer filthing pricks who couldn't stand a
little criticism. It's not fun.
>
>2. You haven't received any apologies.
That's a ridiculous lie. I have been a regular here at AUK for years,
and I mistakenly joined in one of the many attempts to libel Novins.
When I realized I'd done it, I apologized to him at once. I've
actually apologized more than once, and I know of others who've done
the same.
And how would you know if anyone has or has not apologized to Novins?
Everything you say seems to just come directly from your ass.
>You *have* received a couple of
>countersuits, filed with the assistance of competent lawyers, that
>would terrify you if you weren't totally delusional at this stage of
>your self-inflicted professional and social suicide.
So you agree "Bowtie" or somebody libeled Novins, but you're happy to
see him get sued, and you think he's "delusional". Doesn't sound to
me like you have a very tight grip.
>
>> The perpetrators
>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>> lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
>
>You get high by snorting powdered badger tusks, and your wife is a
>prepubescent octopus whom you'd rape regularly if you'd experienced
>even one erection since your hero Joe McCarthy died.
Is that supposed to be funny? More AUstalKer wit?
>
>Sue me for that, Mister Lawyer Man.
>
>I've been inviting you to sue me for *years* now, but it seems that
>I'm just too scary for you to send your real-life kookery in my
>direction.
AIUI, you are in the U.K. Daring Novins to sue you sure sounds like
you want to seem less like a little man and more like a tough guy.
Like usenet, the further away you are the tougher you act. Typical AUK
behavior.
>
>> Novins is a
> ludicrously delusional kook who is quite likely to be disbarred soon.
>
>Yep! He sure is!
More auk wit blown right from yer ass.
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>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:45:30 -0700, Lamey the Cable Guy
><lame...@mail.com>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:35:36 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
>><p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>[newsgroups line changed. I suspect Novins is spamming, given the
>>>random nature of his crossposting.]
>>>
>>>In news.groups on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:01 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman
>>><atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
>>>> Internet Vandals
>>>>
>>>> Charles Novins, Esq.,
>>>
>>>Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, kook?
>>
>>Look who's talking. You and your ilk have turned this newsgroup to
>>shit. You're the k00k. You're so happy to libel Novins online, so
>>long as your coward ass is 6 time zones and an ocean away.
>
>Ummm this newsfroup was always and will always be "shit"
>Don't set your sites so high bro.
I have to agree with you there.
pandora
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:35:36 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
> <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>>[newsgroups line changed. I suspect Novins is spamming, given the random
>>nature of his crossposting.]
>>
>>In news.groups on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:01 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman
>><atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
>>> Internet Vandals
>>>
>>> Charles Novins, Esq.,
>>
>>Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, kook?
>
> Look who's talking. You and your ilk have turned this newsgroup to
> shit. You're the k00k. You're so happy to libel Novins online, so long
> as your coward ass is 6 time zones and an ocean away.
I've never seen pjr libel Novins. Perhaps you should take a better
look around.
>
>>> has received apologies from several of the anonymous internet thugs
>>> attempting to libel him.
>>
>>1. Nobody has attempted to libel you except BowTie, who is one of your
>>staunchest allies in your famous and very funny kooksuit.
>
> No one has attempted to libel Novins? Except for some phantom you call
> "Bowtie?" Are you out of your mind? So all that stuff you said about
> his law firm was done by some phantom you call "Bowtie?"
More than likely.
> You think it's funny or justified to attack somebody's way of making a
> living? Some people understand that it's over the line. It happened to
> me by the same kind of outer filthing pricks who couldn't stand a little
> criticism. It's not fun.
Awww, poor wittle baby. Can't take the heat? You know the drill.
>>2. You haven't received any apologies.
>
> That's a ridiculous lie. I have been a regular here at AUK for years,
> and I mistakenly joined in one of the many attempts to libel Novins.
> When I realized I'd done it, I apologized to him at once. I've actually
> apologized more than once, and I know of others who've done the same.
> And how would you know if anyone has or has not apologized to Novins?
> Everything you say seems to just come directly from your ass.
Wussy.
>
>
>>You *have* received a couple of
>>countersuits, filed with the assistance of competent lawyers, that would
>>terrify you if you weren't totally delusional at this stage of your
>>self-inflicted professional and social suicide.
>
> So you agree "Bowtie" or somebody libeled Novins, but you're happy to
> see him get sued, and you think he's "delusional". Doesn't sound to me
> like you have a very tight grip.
He should get whatever he deserves.
>
>
>>> The perpetrators
>>> posted libelous musings about drug use and sex crimes, all outright
>>> lies. Rather than face legal prosecution, most have backed down.
>>
>>You get high by snorting powdered badger tusks, and your wife is a
>>prepubescent octopus whom you'd rape regularly if you'd experienced even
>>one erection since your hero Joe McCarthy died.
>
> Is that supposed to be funny? More AUstalKer wit?
>
>>Sue me for that, Mister Lawyer Man.
>>
>>I've been inviting you to sue me for *years* now, but it seems that I'm
>>just too scary for you to send your real-life kookery in my direction.
>
> AIUI, you are in the U.K. Daring Novins to sue you sure sounds like you
> want to seem less like a little man and more like a tough guy. Like
> usenet, the further away you are the tougher you act. Typical AUK
> behavior.
Yeah, like yours you mean?
>>> Novins is a
>> ludicrously delusional kook who is quite likely to be disbarred soon.
>>
>>Yep! He sure is!
>
> More auk wit blown right from yer ass.
Better than anything you've said.
Mad as a Box of Frogs
>
>snip
>
>>>You *have* received a couple of
>>>countersuits, filed with the assistance of competent lawyers, that
>>>would terrify you if you weren't totally delusional at this stage of
>>>your self-inflicted professional and social suicide.
>
>>So you agree "Bowtie" or somebody libeled Novins, but you're happy to
>>see him get sued, and you think he's "delusional". Doesn't sound to
>>me like you have a very tight grip.
>
>at least Novins has no proof that it was any of those he sued. Novins
>has himself libeled several people, including me. At one point, if I
>recall correctly, he posted on his web page that I was disbarred for
>murdering somebody, or at least he speculated that this was the case.
>I had a slam dunk case against him and could have drug him to
>Washington State to defend it. That suit, at least, would have had
>merit.
Which begs the question.....
>
>I don't think anybody thought the original libel of Novins was funny,
>or cute, and it was certainly kooky. But Novins' reaction, especially
>considering his own past misdeeds, was certainly over the top. In my
>opinion he filed a meritless lawsuit to try to bully certain people,
>and perhaps that has worked out well for him in the past. Time will
>tell how well it works out here.
No future tense about it. Time has already told it worked out good.
As the defendants come crawling back one by one you can rest assured
their words will be chosen rather wisely.
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<Meat Plow> wrote in message news:3gpfli.5...@news.alt.net...
> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:58:24 -0700, Lamey the Cable Guy
> <lame...@mail.com>wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:53:15 -0500, Meat Plow <.> wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:45:30 -0700, Lamey the Cable Guy
> >><lame...@mail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:35:36 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
> >>><p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>[newsgroups line changed. I suspect Novins is spamming, given the
> >>>>random nature of his crossposting.]
> >>>>
> >>>>In news.groups on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:01 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman
> >>>><atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
> >>>>> Internet Vandals
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Charles Novins, Esq.,
> >>>>
> >>>>Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, kook?
> >>>
> >>>Look who's talking. You and your ilk have turned this newsgroup to
> >>>shit. You're the k00k. You're so happy to libel Novins online, so
> >>>long as your coward ass is 6 time zones and an ocean away.
> >>
> >>Ummm this newsfroup was always and will always be "shit"
> >>Don't set your sites so high bro.
> >
> >
> >I have to agree with you there.
>
>
> Also, I have a plausible theory as to why Novins flipped out. And it
> didn't start with the anon libelous post. It started with a certain
> "someone" fraternizing with him lulling him into a false friendship.
> Basically fucking big time with his head in the end. This "someone"
> should be obvious by the list of defendants. When you fuck with fire
> you'll eventually get burnt.
What the fuck are you talking about you Morbidly Obese Fat-Fuck ??
All the sugar in those Twinkies have given you dementia !!
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"Mad as a Box of Frogs" <don't.sock.my.socks....@my.place.eh> wrote in message news:hksuj3$cm2$1...@undertow.eternal-september.org...
There's still two missing:
1. Deco
2. Pinky
Yell if you see either of these Ko0kie-Ko0kologists !!
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"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message news:xr2dnesf36-IYOzW...@scnresearch.com...
> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:45:30 -0700, Lamey the Cable Guy wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:35:36 +0000 (UTC), Peter J Ross
> > <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>[newsgroups line changed. I suspect Novins is spamming, given the random
> >>nature of his crossposting.]
> >>
> >>In news.groups on Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:01 -0800 (PST), Albert Ekman
> >><atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From
> >>> Internet Vandals
> >>>
> >>> Charles Novins, Esq.,
> >>
> >>Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, kook?
> >
> > Look who's talking. You and your ilk have turned this newsgroup to
> > shit. You're the k00k. You're so happy to libel Novins online, so long
> > as your coward ass is 6 time zones and an ocean away.
>
> I've never seen pjr libel Novins. Perhaps you should take a better
> look around.
> Pandora
That normal for you as you always have hairy balls hanging over your eyes, penis breath !!
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#Mad as a Box of Frogs
miguel <mig...@insurgent.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), Mad as a Box of Frogs
><don't.sock.my.socks....@my.place.eh> wrote:
>
>>In article <sar3n59p094do1p9f...@4ax.com>,
>>miguel <mig...@insurgent.org> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:45:30 -0700, Lamey the Cable Guy
>>><lame...@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>>>You *have* received a couple of
>>>>>countersuits, filed with the assistance of competent lawyers, that
>>>>>would terrify you if you weren't totally delusional at this stage of
>>>>>your self-inflicted professional and social suicide.
>>>
>>>>So you agree "Bowtie" or somebody libeled Novins, but you're happy to
>>>>see him get sued, and you think he's "delusional". Doesn't sound to
>>>>me like you have a very tight grip.
>>>
>>>Somebody libeled Novins. It wasn't any of the people Novins sued, or
>>>at least Novins has no proof that it was any of those he sued. Novins
>>>has himself libeled several people, including me. At one point, if I
>>>recall correctly, he posted on his web page that I was disbarred for
>>>murdering somebody, or at least he speculated that this was the case.
>>>I had a slam dunk case against him and could have drug him to
>>>Washington State to defend it. That suit, at least, would have had
>>>merit.
>>
>>
>>Which begs the question.....
>
>nature of the fallacy before you misuse this phrase again.
>
Which begs more questions.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), Mad as a Box of Frogs
> <don't.sock.my.socks....@my.place.eh> wrote:
>> Which begs the question.....
>
> "Begging the question" is a logical fallacy. You should learn the
> nature of the fallacy before you misuse this phrase again.
That'll happen. No doubt about it. <snort>
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#Mad as a Box of Frogs
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhonda...@earthling.net> wrote:
>miguel wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), Mad as a Box of Frogs
>> <don't.sock.my.socks....@my.place.eh> wrote:
>
>>> Which begs the question.....
>>
>> "Begging the question" is a logical fallacy. You should learn the
>> nature of the fallacy before you misuse this phrase again.
>
>That'll happen. No doubt about it. <snort>
>
I hear Rhonda has been doing some begging, to help cover the cost of
litigation.
#Mad as a Box of Frogs
miguel <mig...@insurgent.org> wrote:
>
>You are a moron because you are a stupid idiot.
Which begs the question "why would you take time from your busy day to
say diddly squat"?
>The reason offered in support of the original statement is simply a
>restatement of the original statement. That's what "begging the
>question" means.
>
>HTH
Let's see if you do any better on the original test shall we?
Your contention is that "he[Novins] posted on his web page that I was
disbarred for murdering somebody, or at least he speculated that this was
the case. I had a slam dunk case against him and could have drug him to
Washington State to defend it."
If your postion was so well fired with "merit", why then did you not
proceed? Perhaps we can look forward to Charles answering that for
you personally, should you have difficulty with that one yourself.
GL
Y SO SRS
<%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid> wrote:
>>Here is an example of "begging the question."
>>You are a moron because you are a stupid idiot.
>Which begs the question "why would you take time from your busy day to
>say diddly squat"?
An example of begging the question:
Your mother is a whore because she's a prostitute.
An example which isn't:
Your mother is a whore because she blew me for a nickel.
#Mad as a Box of Frogs
miguel <mig...@insurgent.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:14:10 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>
>>>The reason offered in support of the original statement is simply a
>>>restatement of the original statement. That's what "begging the
>>>question" means.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>
>>Let's see if you do any better on the original test shall we?
>>
>>Your contention is that "he[Novins] posted on his web page that I was
>>disbarred for murdering somebody, or at least he speculated that this was
>>the case. I had a slam dunk case against him and could have drug him to
>>Washington State to defend it."
>>
>>If your postion was so well fired with "merit", why then did you not
>>proceed? Perhaps we can look forward to Charles answering that for
>>you personally, should you have difficulty with that one yourself.
>
>a logical fallacy. The second is.
Any chance of your answering the question I raised [though]?
howzat?
#Mad as a Box of Frogs
miguel <mig...@insurgent.org> wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:34:18 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
/yes sir I did use the Lord's name in vain once in a while
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:50:57 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
> <%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>
>>> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in
>>> hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
>>
>>
>> Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
>
> license back if he ever does.
He has his license...but you knew that. And you're still stalking him...but
we knew that.
Are you aware that you're boring as hell?
Mad as a Box of Frogs
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:50:57 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>> <%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>>
>>>> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in
>>>> hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
>>
>> He's practicing for when he gets the chance to get his attorney
>> license back if he ever does.
>
>He has his license...but you knew that.
How do we know that?
More attorneys in this thread than a barrel full of monkeys.
We appear to have one actual attorney, and one pretend-attorney.
Even that seems contentious.
One maintains he chose not to persue his case because he didn't
see fit to "put in hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit
like that". The other...well Rhonda knows more about that some of the
rest of us.
My interest as always of course lies in accountability. I'm one of
those finicky shoppers that insists that the shoes have to fit before
the green crosses the palm.
>Are you aware that you're boring as hell?
Over to Meat Plow.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> In article <3gu3o3....@news.alt.net>,
> Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhonda...@earthling.net> wrote:
>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:50:57 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>>> <%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in
>>>>> hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
>>>
>>> He's practicing for when he gets the chance to get his attorney
>>> license back if he ever does.
>>
>> He has his license...but you knew that.
>
> How do we know that?
No one said that *you* know that.
> More attorneys in this thread than a barrel full of monkeys.
> We appear to have one actual attorney, and one pretend-attorney.
> Even that seems contentious.
>
> One maintains he chose not to persue his case because he didn't
> see fit to "put in hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid
> shit like that". The other...well Rhonda knows more about that
> some of the rest of us.
>
> My interest as always of course lies in accountability. I'm one of
> those finicky shoppers that insists that the shoes have to fit
> before the green crosses the palm.
You speak a language all your own. Unfortunately, your idiolectic sounds a
lot like word salad to me.
>> Are you aware that you're boring as hell?
>
>
> Over to Meat Plow.
--
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhonda...@earthling.net> wrote:
>Mad as a Box of Frogs wrote:
>> In article <3gu3o3....@news.alt.net>,
>> Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhonda...@earthling.net> wrote:
>>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:50:57 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>>>> <%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in
>>>>>> hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
>>>>
>>>> He's practicing for when he gets the chance to get his attorney
>>>> license back if he ever does.
>>>
>>> He has his license...but you knew that.
>>
>> How do we know that?
>
>No one said that *you* know that.
Contentious.
>> More attorneys in this thread than a barrel full of monkeys.
>> We appear to have one actual attorney, and one pretend-attorney.
>> Even that seems contentious.
>>
>> One maintains he chose not to persue his case because he didn't
>> see fit to "put in hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid
>> shit like that". The other...well Rhonda knows more about that
>> some of the rest of us.
>>
>> My interest as always of course lies in accountability. I'm one of
>> those finicky shoppers that insists that the shoes have to fit
>> before the green crosses the palm.
>
>You speak a language all your own. Unfortunately, your idiolectic sounds a
>lot like word salad to me.
>
An essential part of the daily diet.
Respondant
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:34:18 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in hundreds
> of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
Ummm. You might find this interesting. Couple days back I returned from a
short trip and as usual erased all my home-phone messages without listening
to any of 'em since anyone who really needs to get in touch with me knows my
cell.
Yesterday, I needed a contact number and thought it may have been logged in
my HOME PHONE caller ID.
As I was scrolling back through the HOME PHONE callers I came upon a name I
know *ONLY* from AUK.
Not gonna mention the name. But this person somehow discovered my surname
(which I have not posted to Usenet, that I am aware of) and as a result, my
*home* phone number, and called me.
Now? Ya wanna OUT yerself before I do? Because I'll bet *anything* yer
reading this, and if your phone call has to do with making me an offer on my
vintage T-Bird, we can discuss it right here.
If not? I have nothing to say to you other than you can contact my lawyer
whos' name and number I will provide for you should you care to call my home
again.
Bill
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:42:28 +0000 (UTC), Mad as a Box of Frogs
> <&*!#0\/*+%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
> I knew the Outing Filth miguel had his license. I neither knew nor
> really gave a flying fuck or currently give a flying fuck what the
> cocksucking cunt has or does. One thing though it is nice to see
> him hidning under RhonDumb's skirt. How he stands the smell I
> don't know. Maybe used to it?
It's interesting how being caught in a lie turns you into such a potty
mouth.
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:37:41 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> <rhonda...@earthling.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:50:57 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>>> <%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in
>>>>> hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
>>>
>>> He's practicing for when he gets the chance to get his attorney
>>> license back if he ever does.
>>
>> He
>
If your killfilter is leaking, it's not for me to fix.
Respondant
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:09:20 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
> I have the idiot killfiled so evidently I'm hiding under your skirt?
>
> That's interesting.
That's nothing. I hace my very first RL stalker.
Respondant
> Name names?
Read my other post and draw yer own conclusion.
Flash�
>"Flash�" <ScarletS...@fastest.man.alive.org> wrote in message
>news:rl86n5tcrimhn3ukb...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>> Care to set a wager any input from "Charles" is published
>> under a REM or Guggle headers?
>>
>
>You're so very uninformed as usual.
>
Feeling empowered there 'Harry' [snarf]
>How about posting under a Freebie?
A wise choice you think, gweggie?
I get strong emanations of North--->South pain over the
magnetosphere, as you struggle with the dilemma you
built for yourself in this post:
From: "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake>
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: RESOLVE! There is no AUK.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:56:15 -0500
Message-ID: <3fs7ih....@news.alt.net>
Longer than you lasted the last time you wrote "unsubscribe"
a fortnight is hardly a "sabbatical", yes?
Notwithstanding your 'memos' of course [snarf]
<3grvd2....@news.alt.net>
<3ge8be....@news.alt.net>
Whatever, it is *your* problem.
And one I fear you may well have more trouble recovering
from than you as a newbie adventurer can foresee.
Carnt see it?
Why am I not surprised ]:-/
Charles Novins - k00k Esq. claims he is hellbent on purging
participants he claims impede his "free speech". Yet he ignores
the instigator of the woes he finds himself now battling with.
You.
As I see it Chucky Buggered Novins has now been handed
(by your own hand)
the spanner to undo the wrong you did in creating
<alt.asshole.charles-novins.aka.atlas-bugged>.
Impersonating a real person electronically with the intent to
bring disrepute is an offence in this Country[.au], a breach of
the Telecommunications Act.
In America?
DickHead.. you even signed off under these headers..!
From: "Charles Novins, Esq." <Ch_N...@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Atty Charles Novins Seeks Changes In Law to Protect Innocents From Internet Vandals
Message-ID: <qEFcn.19194$5n....@newsfe23.iad>
[..]
--
Mr. Novins, Sir, to you!
As another "Chucky" said of you not so long back.
<q>
Not even close to
properly faked kiddie.
</q>
Not so long ago you yourself felt so enthused with your own
Usenet identity you were compelled to make this post:
From: "Gregory Hall�" <greg...@home.fake>
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: I trademarked my name so nobody can use it
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:59:49 -0500
Message-ID: <2ik34j....@news.alt.net>
Don't you DARE use my trademarked name . . .
[..]
I have retained Atlas Bugged to do my legal work.
"Oh just in fun" you say?
Have a laugh at this thought then.. I am.
I be reasonably certain that should Charles Novins - k00k Esq.
be genuine in his quest, then.... then a subpoena aimed at nibble.net
would quickly have you on his "defendants list" and well "served"
. a place you dread to be, eh gweggie [SNARF]
. as Ratz said... "not yet" :-D
Get busy packing that shitbox boat, Capn.
If Charles Novins - k00k Esq. does not act on this gem you have
handed him then truly he deserves all he has got, and will get, as the
clueless arrogant fskn loser he has so far projected.
--
Flash�
handing out backbones around YeLLa America
fup 2 <auk>
Mad as a Box of Frogs
>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:42:28 +0000 (UTC), Mad as a Box of Frogs
><&*!#0\/*+%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>knew the Outing Filth miguel had his license. I neither knew nor
>really gave a flying fuck or currently give a flying fuck what the
>cocksucking cunt has or does. One thing though it is nice to see him
>hidning under RhonDumb's skirt. How he stands the smell I don't know.
>Maybe used to it?
Well that was fairly clear. Always nice to see the a little
accelerant tossed on a bonfire to warm things up.
Nice sexy graphics towards the end of that rant too.
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Now Rhonda, it wasn't that far back a post of mine had you talking
blowjobs....hmmmmmmmmmm?
Mad as a Box of Frogs
miguel <mig...@insurgent.org> wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:09:20 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
>
>That's interesting.
Tell me Miguel, has being under Rhonda's skirt ever crossed your mind
before?
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Quit distracting Miguel please, we have all the makings or real house on
fire thread here. Forget all that Miguel...pay attention or we'll assume
you have some ADD issues.
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhonda...@earthling.net> wrote:
>Meat Plow wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:37:41 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries"
>> <rhonda...@earthling.net>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:50:57 +0000 (UTC), #Mad as a Box of Frogs
>>>> <%*!#0/*%~=@(,)(,).sid>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Because I don't like to litigate unless I have to. Why put in
>>>>>> hundreds of hours of litigation over stupid shit like that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christ Almighty talk about pulling teeth.
>>>>
>>>> He's practicing for when he gets the chance to get his attorney
>>>> license back if he ever does.
>>>
>>> He
>>
>> Killfilter leaking, fix it RonDumb
>
>If your killfilter is leaking, it's not for me to fix.
Fair's fair. We can't expect Rhonda to multitask repairs for you
with Miguel under her skirt.