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Alexander Bartolich

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Oct 25, 2009, 12:48:33 PM10/25/09
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MODERATOR VACANCY INVESTIGATION (MVI)
moderated group comp.ai.jair.announce
moderated group comp.ai.jair.papers

This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroups comp.ai.jair.announce and comp.ai.jair.papers are
not functioning, and may have been abandoned by their moderator(s).

This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.ai.jair.announce Announcements & abstracts of the Journal of AI Research. (Moderated)
comp.ai.jair.papers Papers published by the Journal of AI Research. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.ai.jair.announce
comp.ai.jair.papers

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

CHARTER OF COMP.AI.JAIR.ANNOUNCE

Announcements and abstracts. This group will primarily be used
to announce the publication of new papers; when a paper has been
accepted to the journal, the abstract will be posted here.

The AI Access Foundation, a nonprofit corporation devoted to the
electronic dissemination of scientific results in AI, is pleased to
announce a new journal, the Journal of Artificial Intelligence
Research (JAIR). JAIR is a refereed publication, covering all areas
of AI, that will be distributed over the internet. In addition, each
complete volume of JAIR will be published by Morgan Kaufmann.

JAIR will only publish articles of the highest quality. Submissions
will be evaluated on their originality and significance. All claims
should be clearly articulated and justified either empirically or
theoretically. Papers should describe work that has both practical
and theoretical significance.

We encourage authors to be concise. Short, high-quality articles
will be welcomed, in addition to the longer articles that traditionally
appear in AI journals. JAIR will also publish technical notes -- very
brief papers that extend or evaluate previous work.

Submissions in all areas of AI are invited, including automated
reasoning, cognitive modeling, knowledge representation, learning,
natural language, perception, and robotics. JAIR will begin accepting
submissions on June 15, 1993. Further information regarding submissions
can be obtained by sending a request to ja...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov. A
more detailed announcement containing subscription information will be
issued later this spring.

CHARTER OF COMP.AI.JAIR.PAPERS

Accepted papers: postscript, LaTeX or other source suitable
for text search, supporting code or other data that would not
normally be included in articles due to size limitations.

The AI Access Foundation, a nonprofit corporation devoted to the
electronic dissemination of scientific results in AI, is pleased to
announce a new journal, the Journal of Artificial Intelligence
Research (JAIR). JAIR is a refereed publication, covering all areas
of AI, that will be distributed over the internet. In addition, each
complete volume of JAIR will be published by Morgan Kaufmann.

JAIR will only publish articles of the highest quality. Submissions
will be evaluated on their originality and significance. All claims
should be clearly articulated and justified either empirically or
theoretically. Papers should describe work that has both practical
and theoretical significance.

We encourage authors to be concise. Short, high-quality articles
will be welcomed, in addition to the longer articles that traditionally
appear in AI journals. JAIR will also publish technical notes -- very
brief papers that extend or evaluate previous work.

Submissions in all areas of AI are invited, including automated
reasoning, cognitive modeling, knowledge representation, learning,
natural language, perception, and robotics. JAIR will begin accepting
submissions on June 15, 1993. Further information regarding submissions
can be obtained by sending a request to ja...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov. A
more detailed announcement containing subscription information will be
issued later this spring.

RATIONALE:

According to Google's archive the last on-topic post appeared in
comp.ai.jair.papers on 2000-03-30, and in comp.ai.jair.announce
on 2006-04-20.

Probe posts to these groups resulted in bounces.

The original message was received at Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:49:58 -0700
from moderators.individual.net [130.133.4.7]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<jair-...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>
(reason: 550 5.1.1 <jair-...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>: Recipient
address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table)

The original message was received at Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:47:55 -0700
from moderators.individual.net [130.133.4.7]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<jair-a...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>
(reason: 550 5.1.1 <jair-a...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>: Recipient
address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table)

HISTORY OF THE GROUPS:

comp.ai.jair.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 344:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 21 Jul 1993.

comp.ai.jair.papers is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 332:24 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 21 Jul 1993.

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

--

Steve Bonine

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Oct 31, 2009, 12:47:47 PM10/31/09
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Alexander Bartolich wrote:

> MODERATOR VACANCY INVESTIGATION (MVI)
> moderated group comp.ai.jair.announce
> moderated group comp.ai.jair.papers

> CHARTER OF COMP.AI.JAIR.ANNOUNCE
>
> Announcements and abstracts. This group will primarily be used
> to announce the publication of new papers; when a paper has been
> accepted to the journal, the abstract will be posted here.

...

> According to Google's archive the last on-topic post appeared in
> comp.ai.jair.papers on 2000-03-30, and in comp.ai.jair.announce
> on 2006-04-20.

There was a time when Usenet groups in this genre made sense, but that
time has passed based on the lack of a single person indicating that
they would use this newsgroup. A decade or two ago it was convenient to
use Usenet as a single source for announcements. Since the last
announcement was posted to this group more than three years ago, anyone
who was using it for that purpose has long ago found other methods of
receiving such notifications. Placing a stripped-down version of the
actual paper in the .papers groups makes little sense since potential
readers will just go fetch the PDF file.

If lots of these types of groups were restarted would it draw people to
Usenet as a single source for announcements? I doubt it but maybe
given the low time investment it makes sense as a project.

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