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Feb 18, 2024, 4:05:04 PMFeb 18
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the only prediction thus far is that google shall decommission their usenet
gateway as they announced last 14 december to be effective 15 february 2024
then moved the goal posts to the persisting expectation of 22 february 2024,
so they can easily modify their public announcement without previous notice
and keep doing that until the cows come home . . . if and when their usenet
gateway is actually disconnected, then dozens of spam-friendly news servers
could experience a measurable increase in spam, troll-farm infestation, etc.
certainly some news server administrators may be motivated to tighten their
restrictions on cross-posting, user registration requirements, and throttle
server access to limit use and potential abuse; simply limiting cross-posts
to five (5) and depeering any servers that allow more would be a good start,
better if crossposting were eliminated altogether, but it will get stricter

Indira

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Feb 21, 2024, 3:16:38 AMFeb 21
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William Unruh wrote:

> Google is the apparently the site of most of the
> spam/troll-farm infectation,.... precisely because it is so easy to do
> so. Make it harder an many will give up.

I respectfully both agree and disagree with the way it's stated above.

Just as most people may disagree if I postulated that gravity is due to
some kind of almost unfathomable confluence of 4-dimensional (or maybe 11?)
spacetime rushing inward like a river toward mass:energy at 11km/second at
the same time that the mass:energy electrostatic forces push outward
(equivalence principle) at what we measure at 9.8 meters/sec/sec), that's
how I think of gravity.

Two opposing forces.
Meeting at the twain.

Likewise with that huge increase in spam emanating from Google servers.
Except there isn't any opposing force by Google.

Spammers will always spam.
But Google should STOP them from spamming.

That's the confluence of the two opposing forces.
Meeting at the twain in the middle.

Google can implement spam filters.
They can.
And they do.

At least for GMail they do.
Right?

The spammers spam analogy is electrostatic forces accelerating us outward.
The Google onrushing river of spacetime forces push back into the ground.

Electrostatic forces can oppose onrushing spacetime.
So why can't Google implement spam filters for their Usenet users?

Scott Dorsey

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Feb 21, 2024, 7:58:18 AMFeb 21
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Indira <ind...@ghandi.net> wrote:
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>Electrostatic forces can oppose onrushing spacetime.
>So why can't Google implement spam filters for their Usenet users?

Because gmail is run by a huge army of people who spend a lot of time tuning
spam filters. And Google Groups does not seem to be run by anyone. It is
just left there, turning over unattended. I have talked to a lot of people
at Google and none of them have ever met anyone who worked for Google Groups.
Maybe there are a couple managers and a part-time admin but there is certainly
nowhere near the staffing needed.

And I think Google made the decision to disconnect from Usenet because it was
easier than fixing their problems, which had got bad enough that even they
could no longer ignore them.
--scott
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Marco Moock

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Feb 21, 2024, 8:46:40 AMFeb 21
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On 21.02.2024 um 12:58 Uhr Scott Dorsey wrote:

> Because gmail is run by a huge army of people who spend a lot of time
> tuning spam filters.

Not for outgoing spam.


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Scott Dorsey

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Feb 21, 2024, 8:52:41 AMFeb 21
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Marco Moock <mm+use...@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>On 21.02.2024 um 12:58 Uhr Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> Because gmail is run by a huge army of people who spend a lot of time
>> tuning spam filters.
>
>Not for outgoing spam.

Even for outgoing spam.

While it is true that gmail is the largest provider of email spam in the
world, they do actually put a lot of effort into trying to keep it down
and if they didn't it would be far worse and we would all be back to 2005
or so.

The Doctor

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Feb 21, 2024, 9:53:27 AMFeb 21
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In article <ur4bh2$24mie$1...@paganini.bofh.team>,
Gmail is full of spammers!

https://www.nk.ca/blog/index.php?/categories/14-Google-Spam

>The spammers spam analogy is electrostatic forces accelerating us outward.
>The Google onrushing river of spacetime forces push back into the ground.
>
>Electrostatic forces can oppose onrushing spacetime.
>So why can't Google implement spam filters for their Usenet users?


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The Doctor

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Feb 21, 2024, 9:54:06 AMFeb 21
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In article <ur4s17$svl$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
A large spammer dorway entry!

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The Doctor

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Feb 21, 2024, 9:54:16 AMFeb 21
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In article <ur4urt$35v93$1...@dont-email.me>,
Marco Moock <mm+use...@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>On 21.02.2024 um 12:58 Uhr Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> Because gmail is run by a huge army of people who spend a lot of time
>> tuning spam filters.
>
>Not for outgoing spam.
>
https://www.nk.ca/blog/index.php?/categories/14-Google-Spam
>
>--
>kind regards
>Marco
>
>Send spam to muel...@cartoonies.org
>


The Doctor

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Feb 21, 2024, 9:54:43 AMFeb 21
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In article <ur4v76$ecm$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <klu...@panix.com> wrote:
>Marco Moock <mm+use...@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>>On 21.02.2024 um 12:58 Uhr Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>
>>> Because gmail is run by a huge army of people who spend a lot of time
>>> tuning spam filters.
>>
>>Not for outgoing spam.
>
>Even for outgoing spam.
>
>While it is true that gmail is the largest provider of email spam in the
>world, they do actually put a lot of effort into trying to keep it down
>and if they didn't it would be far worse and we would all be back to 2005
>or so.
>--scott


https://www.nk.ca/blog/index.php?/categories/14-Google-Spam

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yamo'

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Feb 22, 2024, 4:00:56 AMFeb 22
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Hi,
Indira a tapoté :
>
> Spammers will always spam.
> But Google should STOP them from spamming.

Maybe they are not competent or simply don't bother of that.

--
Stéphane
Sorry for my bad English.
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