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A Confession from Tim Skirvin....

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Joseph Dunphy

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Feb 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/22/98
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Clearing out old files....

For those of you who believe that Tim never lies about the people he urges
others to killfile, that his motives can be counted on to be honest, here
is testimony to the contrary, from his own webpage.
(http://www.killfile.org)

It is a pleasant surprise, that the man is capable of remorse. It is a
sign, perhaps, of a growing conscience. But one must face the reality,
that Tim here admits to having tried to isolate this women online, as an
expression of personal spite, simply because she rejected him. Given this,
how much faith can one really put in his other pronouncements ? How many
other people has he mislabled, out of revenge, in order to resolve
personal disputes to his own satisfaction ?

(The underlining in the following passage is mine, not Tim's).


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Jennifer Glish

aka The Lily White Wench

jgl...@uni.uiuc.edu

Charges

Annoyance (later pardoned).

History

Jennifer Glish went to University High School from 1990-1995, and was
in Tim's class for the last three years of that set. During their
senior year, they actually met each other for the first time. For a
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while, Tim was smitten and angry about it - and so, briefly, she was
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confined to the dungeon.
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Status

Jennifer Glish was sentenced to a week in the dungeon on July 2, 1995.
She exited on schedule on July 9, 1995; she has not returned.

Skirvin's Notes

1. The above email address is out of date. Out of deference to our
friendship, I will not give out her real address here.

2. I won't comment on any rumors about this case, probably not even in
email, though I might in Real Life.

3. Killfiling Jenne was one of the most important moments of my Usenet
career to that date. Too bad so few recognized it at the time.

4. I still feel about about how I was acting back then, but...well,
even if everybody else has forgotten, it's not so easy for me. Dammit.

5. If Nik and Kile say a thing about this case that I don't want to
hear, they'll be lucky to have as much memory as an HP48G...

Daemons' Notes

/We can probably give a better history here.../
*Tim met Jenne in his senior year of high school; it was the first
time they had classes together*
/Also during that year, though, began the unihigh.* flamewars. For
Tim, these were a very big deal - they were the beginning of his
Usenet career, for starters, and the first time he ever really had to
put up with real personal attacks/
*Jenne, while not a computer person, did take part in these flamewars
to some extent. However, she attacked Tim much less than most others -
probably because she was less into that kind of thing in general*
/Tim took this as meaning something - incorrectly, most likely - and,
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well, developed a crush. And boy, was he angry about that.../
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*He's had some pretty interesting times relating to Jenne, not all of
which she actually knows about. He's gotten over most of it now,
luckily; now he just considers her one of his good friends and
(suprisingly) confidants*
/Us, we're sorry we had to keep her in here at all... she's a good
person, if a bit strange at times/
*And, you know, Tim's going to kill us if he finds out we just said
that much...*

Evidence

Jenne gets (reluctantly) plonked
_________________________________________________________________

Back to the Dungeon


File last updated: August 21, 1997


Jeffery J. Leader

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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st...@typhoon.xnet.com (Joseph Dunphy) wrote:
>Subject: A Confession from Tim Skirvin....

This has to be the most boring post I've ever read. Both you *and*
Tim should be ashamed of yourselves.


ISP Ratings

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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JeffL...@WorldNet.att.net (Jeffery J. Leader) wrote:
-
-st...@typhoon.xnet.com (Joseph Dunphy) wrote:
-
->Subject: A Confession from Tim Skirvin....
-
-This has to be the most boring post I've ever read.
-Both you *and* Tim should be ashamed of yourselves.

And yet you read it (as did I)!!! It is important
however to bring to light exactly what Tim Skirvan
represents given his influence in the cabal and
his claim to be a moderator of a news.admin.*
group. How can anyone honestly say this
guy is objective enough to be a moderator
and yet keep a straight face?

Below is a quote from the previous post by
Joseph Dunphy:

"For those of you who believe that Tim never lies about
"the people he urges others to killfile, that his motives
"can be counted on to be honest, here
"is testimony to the contrary, from his own webpage.
"(http://www.killfile.org)"

And thank your for the information in another
of your posts Mr. Leader correcting my error
regarding a past threat of a UDP against
AT&T.

Steve
news.admin.censorship


Jeffery J. Leader

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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[ngs trimmed]

bou...@alt.net (ISP Ratings) wrote:
>given his influence in the cabal

Well, TINC.

>his claim to be a moderator of a news.admin.*
>group.

I think this claim is accurate, at least as a co-moderator. Isn't he
sole moderator of .policy?

> And thank your for the information in another

>of your posts Mr. Leader [...]

You're very welcome.


ISP Ratings

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Mar 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/1/98
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JeffL...@WorldNet.att.net (Jeffery J. Leader) wrote:
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-[ngs trimmed]

Your choice of course--I've added a few for efficiency
sake.

-bou...@alt.net (ISP Ratings) wrote in
regards to Timmy Skirvans role as moderator
in some news.admin groups.

->his claim to be a moderator of a news.admin.*
->group.
-
-I think this claim is accurate, at least as a co-moderator.
-Isn't he sole moderator of .policy?

I don't post to moderated groups unless by accident
(or to prove a point). Wouldn't you say that since
Timmy has a rather extensive global killfile published
on the web of those he finds unacceptable--and
this due to opinion--that he does not have the
objectivity to be a moderator? For example--he's
made it very clear my views are not allowed there
and yet he claims to miss my presence on the Freedom
Knights mailiing list so the guy obviously follows me.
Objectivity is important--and what Tim is doing
is censorship.

Steve
news.admin.censorship

-> And thank your for the information in another
->of your posts Mr. Leader [...]
-
-You're very welcome.

Felix

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Mar 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/6/98
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bou...@alt.net (ISP Ratings) wrote:

>JeffL...@WorldNet.att.net (Jeffery J. Leader) wrote:
> -
> -[ngs trimmed]
>
> Your choice of course--I've added a few for efficiency
>sake.
>
> -bou...@alt.net (ISP Ratings) wrote in
> regards to Timmy Skirvans role as moderator
> in some news.admin groups.
>
> ->his claim to be a moderator of a news.admin.*
> ->group.
> -
> -I think this claim is accurate, at least as a co-moderator.
> -Isn't he sole moderator of .policy?
>
> I don't post to moderated groups unless by accident
>(or to prove a point).

Of course not. When you do, your messages are canceled.

> -> And thank your for the information in another
> ->of your posts Mr. Leader [...]
> -
> -You're very welcome.

<Zoom>
Boursy's saving on haircuts. These things go right over his head and
give him a crewcut.


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