S3134 removal request
Robert Debelak
by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
removed from SPEWS.
Thanks,
Robert Debelak
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Mike Andrews
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
Ah.
Maybe you need to go exert some pressure on SBC to stop hosting their
spammers and to start acting on valid reports of abuse. Our complaints
don't seem to be having any effect, but you're a customer, so they
should listen to you.
Until they change, I won't be accepting mail from SBC netspace at work
or at home.
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Atro Tossavainen
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
And there, Sir, you have hit the nail on the head. SBC doesn't seem
to care either. As long as that is the case, nobody with half an
ounce of sense would accept any mail from SBC space. SPEWS helps you
do that, but it could be done in a zillion other ways.
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Jay Maynard
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
Sorry, it doesn't appear to work that way. SPEWS is not listing you. It's
listing SBC Internet. Did you read http://www.spews.org/html/S3134.html ?
SBC is the poster child for how not to run a broadband ISP. Put simply, they
completely abdicate their responsibility to run a spam-unfriendly provider.
Until SBC changes its operations and starts dealing effectively and
aggressively with the problem of spam being sent from and through its
network, the SPEWS listings are likely to grow, not shrink.
Your problem is not limited to SPEWS, either. There's a blocklist out there
that lists every known SBC address, just so folks can block them all.
There's no way of knowing how many folks do that, but it's logical to assume
the number is nonzero (else nobody would have gone to the effort to compile
the blocklist).
Your best bet is to move to an ISP that actively works to prevent spam from
emanating from its space. There's bound to be someone else providing
service in Sterling Heights that is neither spam-friendly nor clueless.
However, if you cannot change for one reason or another, your next best bet
is to route your outgoing mail through a provider that is not blocked.
In any event, until SBC cleans up its act, it's not going to get delisted,
and it's SBC's listing, not yours. The listing is a boycott, intended to get
SBC to change its ways. They don't listen to complaints from outside their
network; they don't appear to listen to complaints from their customers
either, but they're at least more likely to do so.
Yippee
Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:04:46 GMT and decided it was time to write:
>I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
>removed from SPEWS.
Do you care about the rest of the internet? Do you care about the users
of SPEWS who have decided to boycott e-mail coming out of the SBC
network because SBC has chosen to be part of the spam problem, by not
doing anything about the dirty, spammy packets flowing out of its
network?
Do you care about your e-mail enough to stop doing business with an
untrustworthy, irresponsible ISP who doesn't care how much crap flows
from its network into other networks?
SPEWS is a boycott list. It lists spammers and the ISP's that support
them. Your ISP got itself listed, because it continues to act
irresponsibly towards other networks by not doing anything about its
spam problems. Your ISP is the cause of your problems. I suggest you
talk to SBC about it (they won't listen to the rest of the world, maybe
they'll listen to you as a paying customer) or make other arrangements
to get your e-mail delivered. As long as SBC refuses to do anything and
you keep sending e-mail through SBC, your e-mail packets will not be
universally accepted.
Good luck.
--
Y. - not SPEWS, just a happy user.
Socks the Whitehouse Cat
news:CzJSd.2810$DW....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:
>
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses
> owned by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being
> blocked, and we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or
> any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want
> 68.252.86.46 removed from SPEWS.
>
We dont care that you're on 68.252.86.46. All we know is that SBC is the
third worse spam haven in the world, and blocking the entire space reduces
our spam load.
Read http://www.linx.net note that part that calls for de-peering of ISPs
(such as SBC) who host spammer web sites and refuse to terminate them. Then
look at the member list of the organization that have presumably endorsed
that position. Your issue is with SBC. SBC isn't welcome on the good side
of the internet.
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of choice. --adapted from a valentines card
The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
news:CzJSd.2810$DW....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
Get it removed from SBC and you'll probably get your wish.
But as long as it's assigned to SBC, a well-known spam-support operation,
SPEWS will probably continue to list it, because it falls within their
listing criteria.
And as long as you are in SBC IP space, you'll be blocked by the non-spam
side of the network.
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To the spammers, my motto: FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC.
Spam Reporting
message news:CzJSd.2810$DW....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses
> owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked,
> and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want
> 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
Mr. Debelak,
While I understand and empathize with your plight, that's not the way
SPEWS works. They work by bringing pressure to bear on the offending
ISP or web host via that ISP or web host's own customers.
In other words, SPEWS starts out by blocking only the IP addresses
known to be used for spammers. If the provider harboring those
spammers does not remove them, that block is widened successively over
time to adjacent IP addresses, until finally, the whole IP space for a
company that is known to be harboring spammers, and has done nothing
about them, is blocked. Obviously, SBC has a very long history of
inaction in regards to spammers.
It is hoped that the innocent bystanders using those IP addresses
become incensed that their provider would allow this to happen, and
bring pressure to bear upon their provider to clean up their act.
Barring that, it is hoped that those innocent bystanders leave that
provider for a more responsible provider.
So, those are your options... you can either bring pressure to bear
upon SBC to clean up their act, or you can leave SBC for a more
responsible company. Might I suggest DSLExtreme? They're extremely
clueful, whitehat, and serve most areas that SBC does, at a better
price, and with better service and faster DSL speeds.
There is one other option, but it's not recommended. You can
smart-host your email through a clean server. This is not recommended
for a couple of reasons... first, it'll cost you extra each month to
set up a smart-hosting arrangement (why should you pay for SBC's
irresponsibility?), and you'll still be strengthening SBC and
reinforcing its bad behavior by giving it money each month for your
bandwidth.
We're with SBC, as well, but since I use 'unconventional' techniques
that consume a great deal of bandwidth, to fight spammers, I figure I
might as well fight them on their own turf.
Hope this helps.
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JB apologize for his false accusations and spam-friendly behavior?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_thread/thread/63172289d5aa1a61/762b7339da47e17a#762b7339da47e17a
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/77e92facdc555f81
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/aad3010beed38ae8
Bill Carton - (The Roadie)
>My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
>by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
>we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
Great news!
Now why are you continuing to pay SBC and support their spam-friendly
enterprise with your dollars?
>
>I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses,
Ahhhh, there's the problem. SPEWS does. We do. You should.
>I just want 68.252.86.46
>removed from SPEWS.
Then call your SBC sales rep, get them to read the SPEWS FAQ and the S3134
record, and address issues like this:
Spam ignorant.
Poster child of how not to run a broadband network company
when it comes to dealing with abuse.
1) Don't reply to abuse reports.
2) Let abuse@ mailboxes overflow.
3) Obsolete & mis-labeled SWIP data.
4) Have representatives who tell inquirers that "management"
refuses to give them resources to control the problem.
5) Tell their own customers "we take the spam issue seriously".
6) Management types happy to tell anyone who'll listen, "blocklists
are bad, we won't deal with them!" The basic "we don't want to
hear bad news" attitude of the world's worst run networks.
7) Become, in a matter of months, the worst spammer-abused
networks on the internet. On par with some entire large
nations as far as spam flow goes!
Oh, and there's this little matter of 111 SBL listings going back to
2002!!! SPEWS is only the beginning of your image problems.
SBL24129
69.228.160.0/24 sbc.com
19-Feb-2005 19:35 GMT eemarketers.{com|net}
SBL24062
65.69.238.176/29 sbc.com
18-Feb-2005 07:35 GMT Phishing (target)
SBL24037
69.213.184.0/23 sbc.com
17-Feb-2005 11:51 GMT ppp-69-213-185-118.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net
SBL24013
66.161.33.19/32 sbc.com
16-Feb-2005 23:43 GMT 1SRV.com
SBL23668
66.161.20.0/26 sbc.com
08-Feb-2005 10:40 GMT referralware.com
SBL23250
69.104.19.232/32 sbc.com
27-Jan-2005 10:37 GMT Albert Ahdoot and Alyx Sachs - Net Global Marketing
netglobalmarketing.com / Albert's DSL line
SBL22819
216.63.242.254/32 sbc.com
14-Jan-2005 00:49 GMT www.wallstreetnewsalert.com (graphic source)
SBL22729
68.248.52.21/32 sbc.com
11-Jan-2005 16:12 GMT tirereminders.com
SBL21958
64.143.218.0/26 sbc.com
15-Dec-2004 19:30 GMT Direct Marketing / optinfun.com
SBL20953
66.140.107.234/32 sbc.com
14-Nov-2004 10:43 GMT Open Proxy - Spam injection site / mejcgall.info
SBL20795
69.177.161.0/24 sbc.com
08-Nov-2004 11:13 GMT diversitybusiness.com / div2000.com / ccaii.com
SBL20699
68.125.36.56/29 sbc.com
05-Nov-2004 18:57 GMT Remedy Media spam hosts
SBL20293
69.110.15.238/32 sbc.com
19-Oct-2004 12:06 GMT adsl-69-110-15-238.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net
SBL20258
68.123.172.60/32 sbc.com
18-Oct-2004 09:29 GMT adsl-68-123-172-60.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net
SBL20056
66.124.209.80/30 sbc.com
09-Oct-2004 21:45 GMT offersinsuresuite.com
SBL19967
69.208.26.0/24 sbc.com
05-Oct-2004 10:59 GMT Shay Tyler / MLeads.com
MLeads mortgage spammers on Ameritech
SBL19411
69.107.204.204/32 sbc.com
13-Sep-2004 03:47 GMT Alan Ralsky
RXYOUCANGET.NET / WELCOME2OURRX.COM website on DSL line
SBL19372
67.66.34.112/28 sbc.com
11-Sep-2004 12:55 GMT Max Sutter / Petadoptions.com
Marceline Sutter's Southwestern Bell netblock
SBL19331
66.123.203.152/32 sbc.com
09-Sep-2004 18:25 GMT Phishing spam
SBL19241
64.165.69.18/32 sbc.com
06-Sep-2004 22:46 GMT virus - adsl-64-165-69-18.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
SBL18925
69.67.68.224/27 sbc.com
24-Aug-2004 00:59 GMT Michael Lindsay / iMedia Networks
Hosted with Whoa USA Inc spamhaus
SBL18921
68.250.113.224/32 sbc.com
23-Aug-2004 23:52 GMT Open Proxy - Spam injection site
SBL18802
69.111.108.0/22 sbc.com
19-Aug-2004 13:06 GMT "Private Address" (spamming for Viagra)
SBL18769
63.203.32.208/29 sbc.com
18-Aug-2004 16:50 GMT Michael Lindsay / iMedia Networks
SBL18230
199.179.240.10/32 sbc.com
26-Jul-2004 03:30 GMT Brian Haberstroh / Atriks
Goodyear Tires opt-out spammers
SBL18120
69.150.212.0/23 sbc.com
23-Jul-2004 00:45 GMT "Private Customer - SBC Internet Services"
SBL18100
69.148.231.128/25 sbc.com
21-Jul-2004 06:50 GMT Dana Jones - The Ballman
yet another SBC netblock for The Ballman spammer
SBL18099
67.67.154.0/25 sbc.com
21-Jul-2004 06:47 GMT Dana Jones - The Ballman
SBC happily giving multiple netblocks to ROKSO spammer...
SBL18098
69.150.90.0/25 sbc.com
21-Jul-2004 06:44 GMT Dana Jones - The Ballman
golfballdaddy.com
SBL18009
66.10.92.0/22 sbc.com
17-Jul-2004 04:26 GMT knllc
knllc.net
SBL17868
69.150.220.0/22 sbc.com
09-Jul-2004 15:34 GMT Ryan Pitylak / Steve Goudreault / Mark Trotter
Perimeter Technology Center/Internet Spectrum/ntscentral.com
SBL17842
69.105.150.204/32 sbc.com
08-Jul-2004 10:29 GMT spam source no RDNS
SBL17638
64.163.47.227/32 sbc.com
30-Jun-2004 11:34 GMT Virus infected PC
SBL17608
64.174.141.200/29 sbc.com
29-Jun-2004 07:12 GMT Netbase Corp (bcircle.com / icosign.com)
SBL17245
67.114.69.144/28 sbc.com
15-Jun-2004 11:05 GMT techsnow.info/senderservices.info "Phx Marketing
System" Pho
SBL17078
68.122.216.46/32 sbc.com
10-Jun-2004 14:08 GMT adsl-68-122-216-46.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net
SBL17012
68.255.24.69/32 sbc.com
08-Jun-2004 00:53 GMT Open Proxy - Spam injection site / LENFGB.biz
SBL16960
69.111.139.184/29 sbc.com
05-Jun-2004 19:02 GMT findinformation.biz ("shareyourexperiences.com"
spammer)
SBL16895
68.254.207.94/32 sbc.com
03-Jun-2004 21:09 GMT Open Proxy - Spam injection site / mmbgcf.biz
SBL16666
66.126.151.158/32 sbc.com
26-May-2004 01:30 GMT Virus infected PC
SBL16652
68.72.156.7/32 sbc.com
25-May-2004 09:46 GMT Opt-out spamming: mv3innovations.com
SBL16646
66.123.137.80/29 sbc.com
25-May-2004 04:34 GMT Bridge Capital Corp. mortgage spammers
SBL16611
216.63.242.0/24 sbc.com
23-May-2004 09:52 GMT Howard Minsky / TheAdStop.com / ad360.com
totalresponsegroup.com / theadstop.com
SBL16490
67.112.241.33/32 sbc.com
18-May-2004 02:05 GMT adsl-67-112-241-33.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net
SBL16320
65.64.16.0/22 sbc.com
11-May-2004 04:53 GMT Acxiom Corp / DELIVERYSOURCE.COM
SBL16316
69.107.204.192/28 sbc.com
11-May-2004 02:59 GMT Michael Lindsay / iMedia Networks
IMEDIA.NET / CHEAPCOLO.NET / TGM.NET
SBL16291
64.174.141.203/32 sbc.com
10-May-2004 07:01 GMT BCircle.com opt-out spammers
SBL16196
64.143.4.206/32 sbc.com
05-May-2004 19:23 GMT 3distl.com the tradeshow display spammers
SBL15923
68.120.167.144/29 sbc.com
24-Apr-2004 08:43 GMT Ryan Champion / AMR Ventures
Amr Ventures Inc10653099
SBL15712
68.123.191.174/32 sbc.com
15-Apr-2004 02:35 GMT BCircle.com opt-out spammers
SBL15235
66.139.112.72/29 sbc.com
26-Mar-2004 15:01 GMT Brian Haberstroh / Atriks
Atriks nameservers - 5srt.org/khy3.org/1cmpn.org/mytq.net
SBL15208
63.194.23.227/32 sbc.com
25-Mar-2004 18:37 GMT Charles Earle IV - World Mail Direct
gridtel.net - spamware for sale!
SBL15051
64.143.169.165/32 sbc.com
19-Mar-2004 09:01 GMT Davis Wolfgang Hawke
pleasehernow.com / nhchess.org
SBL14953
66.139.112.209/32 sbc.com
16-Mar-2004 09:23 GMT Brian Haberstroh / Atriks
ibru2.net
SBL14869
68.126.80.108/32 sbc.com
12-Mar-2004 07:54 GMT adsl pacbell spam sources
SBL14627
64.216.47.0/24 sbc.com
02-Mar-2004 03:41 GMT adsl-64-216-47-243.dsl.lbcktx.swbell.net & other
spam source
SBL14254
66.127.57.242/32 sbc.com
16-Feb-2004 08:14 GMT Michael Lindsay / iMedia Networks
prodigy.net / pacbell.net connection to the internet
SBL13696
66.137.239.185/32 sbc.com
28-Jan-2004 07:44 GMT adsl-66-137-239-185.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
SBL13620
64.143.3.120/32 sbc.com
26-Jan-2004 00:11 GMT Sam Al - Bulk ISP Corp
www.bulkisp.net
SBL13283
64.143.40.215/32 sbc.com
11-Jan-2004 18:02 GMT everymakeup.info/beautysecret.info/beauty-tip.info
SBL13282
64.143.169.109/32 sbc.com
11-Jan-2004 17:58 GMT everymakeup.info/beautysecret.info/beauty-tip.info
SBL13166
64.170.123.222/32 sbc.com
04-Jan-2004 04:11 GMT ezprosoft.biz - warez
SBL13128
68.23.49.51/32 sbc.com
02-Jan-2004 00:15 GMT Woody Buick SBC068023049048021125
(NET-68-23-49-48-1)
SBL13079
65.70.5.250/32 sbc.com
30-Dec-2003 18:49 GMT adsl-65-70-5-250.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net- abused via
SMTP AUTH
SBL12651
216.102.3.17/32 sbc.com
11-Dec-2003 22:57 GMT hdlv.com
SBL12640
208.190.83.0/25 sbc.com
11-Dec-2003 04:31 GMT Dana Jones - The Ballman
golfballdaddy.com
SBL12399
66.161.13.16/32 sbc.com
29-Nov-2003 07:04 GMT Juan Garavaglia aka Super-Zonda
moveit122.com and others
SBL12270
63.200.51.170/32 sbc.com
21-Nov-2003 11:31 GMT www.oem-box.biz on
adsl-63-200-51-170.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
SBL12193
68.123.62.0/24 sbc.com
18-Nov-2003 10:04 GMT adsl-68-123-62-221.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net and
others
SBL12185
64.168.13.6/32 sbc.com
18-Nov-2003 00:47 GMT oem-cd.biz on
adsl-64-168-13-6.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
SBL11968
66.161.37.0/24 sbc.com
10-Nov-2003 05:36 GMT KwikMed
SBL11613
63.194.21.125/32 sbc.com
26-Oct-2003 22:06 GMT www.StopArthritisNaturally.com
SBL11412
63.202.184.108/32 sbc.com
18-Oct-2003 23:04 GMT adsl-63-202-184-108.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
SBL11357
64.143.17.93/32 sbc.com
16-Oct-2003 05:41 GMT makebigger.com
SBL10889
66.126.248.58/32 sbc.com
01-Oct-2003 07:30 GMT adsl-66-126-248-58.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net
SBL10562
64.109.248.169/32 sbc.com
16-Sep-2003 08:01 GMT ultra-software.info
SBL10544
207.193.133.1/32 sbc.com
15-Sep-2003 20:40 GMT sofortverlosung.com / 207-193-133-1.ded.swbell.net
SBL10294
67.124.133.0/24 sbc.com
03-Sep-2003 09:28 GMT adsl-67-124-133-[*].dsl.sktn01.pacbell.net
SBL10013
68.23.241.40/29 sbc.com
12-Aug-2003 07:39 GMT Brian Kramer / Expedite Media Group
Expedite Media Group - consumer-resource.net
SBL9905
68.73.251.0/29 sbc.com
30-Jul-2003 01:08 GMT Brian Kramer / Expedite Media Group
Expedite Media Group - econsumer-resource.com
SBL9397
66.139.226.126/32 sbc.com
14-Jun-2003 19:47 GMT Max Sutter / Petadoptions.com
''maxinternet''
SBL9185
64.169.151.180/32 sbc.com
29-May-2003 14:12 GMT ns1.usalenders.info / MARKETINGMARKETING.NET
SBL9126
64.162.147.200/29 sbc.com
26-May-2003 02:25 GMT Kristian Padborg / www.word-of-mouth.info
SBL9085
207.214.111.251/32 sbc.com
22-May-2003 10:54 GMT Quang Dangtran - Whoa Medical
whoaextend.com / whoaextend.com / EBULKMARKETING.COM
SBL9032
64.164.249.200/29 sbc.com
18-May-2003 19:35 GMT Sam Al - Bulk ISP Corp
network888.com
SBL8675
64.170.186.56/29 sbc.com
22-Apr-2003 02:55 GMT World Reach / Randy Jacobs / EMF / Scott Abadjian
newmediacorp.net / ''Mark Perterson''
SBL7809
66.127.148.8/29 sbc.com
25-Mar-2003 03:46 GMT World Reach / Randy Jacobs / EMF / Scott Abadjian
bulkmailxchange.com
SBL7712
66.161.13.25/32 sbc.com
21-Mar-2003 21:21 GMT kunku.net / elphe.net
SBL7553
65.69.207.33/32 sbc.com
17-Mar-2003 08:28 GMT adsl-65-69-207-33.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net
SBL7551
63.206.245.224/27 sbc.com
17-Mar-2003 08:14 GMT adsl-63-206-245-247.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net
SBL7537
64.175.186.128/27 sbc.com
17-Mar-2003 06:23 GMT spam sources, no RDNS
SBL7488
65.68.136.176/29 sbc.com
16-Mar-2003 03:15 GMT Webfinity/Dynamic Pipe
Someone here likes ''honey'', proxy honeyposts that is.
SBL7313
66.136.210.80/29 sbc.com
11-Mar-2003 06:45 GMT Ryan Pitylak / Steve Goudreault / Mark Trotter
dailyspeacialnow.com / refinancingadvisors.com
SBL7312
66.136.210.224/29 sbc.com
11-Mar-2003 06:42 GMT adsl-66-136-210-226.dsl.austtx.swbell.net
SBL7269
66.140.9.144/29 sbc.com
09-Mar-2003 11:00 GMT Dana Jones - The Ballman
another SBC block
SBL7263
67.122.174.58/32 sbc.com
09-Mar-2003 08:08 GMT bbwgroup.com - spamvertised web bug
SBL7175
64.219.224.1/32 sbc.com
04-Mar-2003 06:26 GMT zena1.swbell.net
SBL7015
216.62.181.2/32 sbc.com
22-Feb-2003 11:39 GMT Dana Jones - The Ballman
ns1.notfalse.com
SBL6518
65.42.28.120/29 sbc.com
28-Jan-2003 07:22 GMT E C I / Market Share Group
SBL5971
66.123.180.8/29 sbc.com
27-Dec-2002 09:29 GMT Simon Wong - thedotnetwork.com
ynnmail.com
SBL5892
67.36.71.113/32 sbc.com
20-Dec-2002 09:55 GMT onlinepji.net
SBL5435
64.162.231.96/28 sbc.com
28-Nov-2002 18:58 GMT Challenger One
SBL5409
209.79.247.240/28 sbc.com
26-Nov-2002 23:27 GMT adultclassifieds2000.com / marriedbutcurious.com /
marriedbutlooking.com
SBL5089
64.143.42.198/32 sbc.com
05-Nov-2002 07:31 GMT Brian David Westby / Married But Lonely
www.marriedbutlonesome.com
SBL5052
68.22.35.6/32 sbc.com
04-Nov-2002 06:50 GMT [sepcity.com, www.commwiz.com] -> 68.22.35.6
SBL4858
66.124.114.0/23 sbc.com
23-Oct-2002 10:21 GMT PacBell Dailups (PBI ignores spam complaints)
SBL4669
209.87.152.32/27 sbc.com
12-Oct-2002 09:27 GMT Howard Minsky / TheAdStop.com / ad360.com
icehost.net on planetonline.net
SBL4365
63.207.173.176/29 sbc.com
18-Sep-2002 01:07 GMT hititems.com, mixxmail.com
SBL4263
216.100.186.0/30 sbc.com
10-Sep-2002 07:39 GMT tritech.org
SBL4262
216.100.185.252/30 sbc.com
10-Sep-2002 07:36 GMT tritech.org
SBL3743
67.36.71.112/28 sbc.com
03-Aug-2002 11:08 GMT Manuel cacrrillo
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Bill "the Roadie" Carton
Verbila
"Robert Debelak" <rdebela...@raytechautomotive.com> wrote:
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses
You should care. Large parts of SBC's network are blocked
specifically because many of those IPs are emitting spam. Those that
are not emitting spam cannot and will not be surgically removed from
the block for a number of reasons, but mostly because:
SBC has shown clearly that they do not care about our customers,
because their customers spew so much spam to ours and SBC does exactly
nothing about it, multiple vociferous complaints notwithstanding.
So, we have decided that we will extend the same (non)courtesy to
SBC's customers and block all or almost all of SBC's IP addresses.
When SBC decides to start caring about our customers and their spam
issue, we'll start caring about their customers and their outgoing
mail issue.
Please tell SBC to get with the program.
Meanwhile, I invite you to go here:
and click on the graphic in the upper left corner title "Spam Origin &
Haven Sites - Top 10 Chart". Scroll down to the "Top 10 Worst Spam
Service ISPs" section and have a gander at the rank of "sbc.com". If
you want a more detailed look at SBC's spam problem, click on the
domain name "sbc.com" and it will load a page that shows the spammers
that SBC is currently harboring (yes, surprise, surprise, SBC is
profiting from spam) and all of the other IP listings which are
probably security holes on their customers' computers that SBC has
done exactly nothing to fix. Please also note the listings in yellow.
These are ROKSO spammers, which are hard core spam gangs that have
been kicked off of three or more ISP for spamming. SBC is only too
happy to host and profit from these thieving spamming bastards from
hell.
Now comtemplate the fact that getting the IP address that *you lease
from SBC* unblocked from SPEWS or any other block list that has SBC
IPs listed has about a snowball's chance in hell of getting de-listed.
We implore you to switch ISPs and help stop spam.
I am not SPEWS,
verbila
Cameron L. Spitzer
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
I hadn't noticed that three quarters of 68.252.0.0/16 is in SPEWS,
but I'm not surprised.
I blocked 68.252.0.0/16 after receiving spam from eight different
/20s and /23s in there. It may be static IP space, but it
sends a ton of spam and SBC appears to do nothing.
If one of *my* users complains about missing email from
raytechautomotive.com, I'll whitelist your server's IPA.
I'll bet that never happens. I'll bet I'd get complaints
if I unblocked 68.252.0.0/16.
Your problem isn't SPEWS. SPEWS just called your attention to
your real problem, which is the very poor quality IP space
SBC has assigned you.
You should try relaying your outbound email through the
SMTP relay server Ameritech provides. If your business generates
too much SMTP traffic for that, you should rent a small server
in better space and send through there.
Complaining here is a waste of time for you. It will not
improve the poor quality of 68.252.86.46. But it wouldn't
hurt to complain to your state's AG, and your newspaper.
Your neighbors probably don't know Ameritech (SBC) is the
third worst spammer host on the planet. If they did,
maybe someone might picket their headquarters or sue them
or something. They only get away with being penis pill
spammer central because the public doesn't know.
Cameron
David Cary Hart
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP
> addresses owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being
> blocked, and we've never sent any spam, from our current IP
> address or any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want
> 68.252.86.46 removed from SPEWS.
Well you should! Until SBC learns how to deal with abuse
properly, SPEWS will continue to list this and other ranges.
BTW, that looks like a dynamic address anyway. If not, it should
have a proper reverse pointer.
If you read the SPEWS listing then you know the issues. Your
choices are limited to:
1. Convince SBC to address and correct these issues.
2. Change providers.
3. Use a smarthost.
4. Get your customers to whitelist you.
Your posting here is pointless. And, yes, I clearly understand
that you affirm that you are innocent, don't spam, etc, etc.
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ru.ig...@usask.ca
>My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
>by SBC.
You ARE in trouble.
>My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
>we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
That is now irrelevant.
>I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
>removed from SPEWS.
Then you don't understand why your mail is being blocked. SPEWS is
a database used by many mail servers to block certain e-mail messages.
The database consists basically of two types of entries: individual
spamming IPs (what you think it is for) AND ISPs who seem to be overly
spammer-friendly (what you haven't considered it is for). Your messages
are being blocked for the second type, not because you have spammed
but because your ISP, SBC is being held responsible for spam being
generated on THEIR networks. That's what that whole listing says,
starting from
2, 68.248.0.0 - 68.248.63.255, sbc.com / swbell.net / ameritech.net / pacbell.net
all the way down to
0, 68.248.0.0 - 68.255.255.255, sbc.com / swbell.net / ameritech.net / pacbell.net (did have to add)
says: the "sbc.com / swbell.net..." part says SBC is being held responsible.
Since the IP you use is THEIR IP that is only leased to you, it is included
in the block listing. That means there's nothing you can say here or to
SPEWS to get you delisted. Only SBC can get you delisted by removing ALL
accounts held by spammers.
What you CAN do is complain to SBC and urge them to cancel all accounts
held by spammers (i.e. basically, wipe out all services to them);
move to a more reputable ISP (SBC has a terrible reputation); smarthost
your mail; get your intended recipients to whitelist you; live with
being blocked and the possible bad reputation that may rub off onto
you (e.g. some folks consider the lease you pay to SBC as indirect
support of spamming).
ru
--
I am not SPEWS.
phil-new...@ipal.net
| My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
| by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
| we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
|
| I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
| removed from SPEWS.
Things with SBC/Ameritech and other large telcos are so bad that thousands
of networks are simply refusing to accept any email from them whatsoever.
We do care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses. Even though email is
refused from their addresses, all the attempts to send spam bey their
customers still wastes our network bandwidth and server process, CPU, and
memory resources. It's SBC's own decision to let their network be a
cesspool of abuse of the internet. It's your decision to be inside that
cesspool.
I also find it impractical to manage blocking lists by IP address. What
if your IP address changes? SBC is known to up and change this on their
customers. The way it works is the static allocation is suddenly not static
anymore. You call and complain and the say sorry for the inconvenience and
restore your static setting and whatever IP address you currently have, not
what you previously had, which someone else is probably using at that moment.
So we block SBC by their domain name. You can be unaffected if you can get
them to change the reverse DNS for the IP address they lease to you. However
it is unlikely they will do this because you probably don't have real static
IP address service, but long lease dynamic addressing marketed as static,
which will just up and change in 6 to 12 months, or the next time your line
is down for 24 to 48 hours.
Be sure to tell all your friends, relatives, partners, and colleagues that
choosing SBC for business internet access is a very bad idea. That way at
least they don't fall into the pitfall you have.
BTW, I have entered your email address (with the "NOSPAM" removed) into our
whitelist. At least that much will now work.
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McWebber
news:CzJSd.2810$DW....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC.
If it's fixed, why doesn't the rDNS show your company or domain?
adsl-68-252-86-46.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net [68.252.86.46]
My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
So?
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want
68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
Fat chance. You couldn't send mail here even if SPEWS removed you until you
fix your rDNS.
--
McWebber
"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003
Bubba
rdebela...@raytechautomotive.com says...
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
Therein lies the rub. It is not your IP that is listed. It is the
spammers on the other SBC IP addresses that are causing blocks of SBC
address space to be listed, and one of those listed SBC blocks includes
68.252.86.46.
Bill Cole
"Robert Debelak" <rdebela...@raytechautomotive.com> wrote:
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC. My company's emails to certain customers are being blocked, and
> we've never sent any spam, from our current IP address or any other.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want 68.252.86.46
> removed from SPEWS.
I don't have anything to do with SPEWS (I don't even use it) but i've
been watching them long enough to say with some certainty that this is
not how SPEWS works. The listing is about SBC. If you cannot fix SBC,
you cannot get your SBC-provided address de-listed. As a fellow SBC
customer (whose space is as yet not listed by SPEWS) I suspect that you
understand that fixing SBC is about as hard as preventing snow in
Detroit.
As a fellow SBC customer, I suggest 3 steps:
1. Contact SBC to get proper reverse DNS set up for your address. I see
you have the same sort of /29 netblock DSL account as I do (and appear
to be quite near me...) and delegation of your rDNS is a free feature
that is yours for the asking. This will not get you off SPEWS, but it
will eliminate a situation which is likely to cause some sites to refuse
your mail. A significant slice of all spam comes from machines with
generic rDNS on the SBC network.
2. Contact the administrators of any system that is rejecting your mail
because of SPEWS and discuss the issue with them directly. The relative
value to them of accepting your email vs. the value of being a tiny part
of a message to poorly-run ISP's like SBC is a good approach to take.
Even if SPEWS were not fallible (as they have proven to be a number of
times) and only listed spammers and those providers knowingly servicing
spammers, using their list without an overriding whitelist is a sure way
to end up ejecting some legitimate email.
3. If you are unable to resolve all of your actual problems with
rejected mail via the above, seek other ways of handling your mail or
some other network. That could be an alternate ISP or it could be just a
'smarthost' machine in a colo facility on some less disreputable
network.
--
Clues for the blacklisted: <http://www.scconsult.com/bill/dnsblhelp.html>
Current Peeve: "This page was written to render correctly in any standards
compliant browser" on pages with hundreds of HTML errors.
Jim Seymour
"Robert Debelak" <rdebela...@raytechautomotive.com> writes:
> My fixed IP address, 68.252.86.46 is part of a range of IP addresses owned
> by SBC.
This, right here, is your problem.
>
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, ...
[snip]
>
SBC apparently doesn't care about *any* of its addresses.
What you're experiencing is an example of one reason I'm not an SBC
customer for ISP services--either at home or at work. (And
indicative of why I'm doing my best to avoid SBC for any other
services--both at home and at work--including Cingular wireless.)
SBC appears to me to exhibit *all* of the behaviour patterns
consistent with Lily Tomlin's "Ernestine" character's line "We don't
care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company." Now couple this
attitude with what appears to me to be an incomplete understanding of
how the Internet is different from telephone service and what do you
suppose you get? (Or, perhaps more accurately, *don't* get?)
--
Jim Seymour | "Some of the lies are so strange it
jsey...@LinxNet.com | makes you wonder about the spammer's
LinxNet Spam Files: | sanity."
http://www.LinxNet.com/misc/spam | - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02
Buss Error
> I don't care about the rest of SBC's IP addresses, I just want
> 68.252.86.46 removed from SPEWS.
Sadly, it doesn't work that way.
Go to http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics.lasso
Contemplate that SBC is listed as the third worst spam service ISPs.
Click on http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=sbc.com
Think about this: 111 known spam sources. 37 of them known spam gangs,
usually big time spam operations.
You made your choice. We've (tinw) made ours.
Note the headers of this post. Yes. I'm an SBC customer right now, on
static allocation. I can't get my email from my private server to half
the places I want to get to. It's so bad that I have turned down my
server on my leased SBC space and purchased a virtual hosting account
elsewhere.
Next will be to dump SBC, though my choices there are limited.
So, you want everyone else in the world to make an exception for you just
so you can send email using an ISP that has a track record that draws
spammers like flies to sewage. Frankly, that takes gall.
You can:
1. Disconnect from SBC and get IP connectivity from some ISP that will
terminate their spamming scum.
2. Pay someone to smart host your email.
3. Ask the administrators to white list your IP.
4. Live with it.
5. Get SBC to clean up.
6. Get another allocation out of SBC.