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Chris Lewis

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Sep 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/26/95

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Guess what pp00...@interramp.com did when he receive my notification
yesterday that I had cancelled his spam? He posted a lot more. Well,
my friend, killing your spam is now automatic and nobody will see it.

Interramp.com continues to refuse to even acknowledge that they've
received a complaint. It's remotely possible that they've actually done
something about us00...@interramp.com's "50% off" spam, because there
weren't any on Monday. We'll see.

280 articles were cancelled in 280 groups. The Breidbart Index is 280.

Excessive Multi-Posting (EMP) means the same as the term "spam" usually
does, but is more accurate and self-explanatory.

The Breidbart Index (BI) is defined as the sum of the square roots of
how many newsgroups each article was posted to. This is a measure of
Excessive Crossposting (ECP) also known as "Velveeta".

If you have questions about how not to spam, or where "it is written that
I shouldn't spam" or similar things, we suggest you consult the newsgroup
news.announce.newusers, or the rtfm.mit.edu FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions
archives), and read the following FAQs:

- "What is Usenet", by Salzenburg, Spafford and Moraes. (FAQ archive:
usenet/what-is/part1)

- "What is Usenet? A second opinion.", by Vielmetti. (FAQ archive
name: usenet/what-is/part2)

- "DRAFT FAQ: Advertising on Usenet: How To Do It, How Not To Do It"
by Furr. (FAQ archive name: usenet/advertising/part1)

- "A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community", by Von Rospach,
Spafford, et. al. (FAQ archive name: usenet/primer/part1)

- "Rules for posting to Usenet", by Horton, Spafford & Moraes.
(FAQ archive name: usenet/posting-rules/part1)

- "Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette", by Templeton
et. al. (FAQ archive name: usenet/emily-postnews/part1)

The heuristics for cancels are based _only_ on one or more of the following
measures:

1) 20 or more separate copies of essentially the same article
were posted (EMP), or
2) 5 or more separate copies of essentially the same article
were posted and the BI is > 30 (ECP), or
3) is a continuation of a previous EMP/ECP, within a 45 day
sliding window. That is: if the articles posted within the
past 45 days exceeds the thresholds in (1) or (2), it
gets removed. _Unless_ the originator has made a clear
and obvious effort to cease spamming (which includes an
apology and undertaking to do so in news.admin.net-abuse.misc).
This includes "make money fast" schemes which passed the
EMP/ECP thresholds several years ago.
4) broken gateways regurgitating old articles with new messageids.

[Please note: threshold (1) has been reduced from 25, to the generally
held concensus of 20.]

The first three are generically called "spam". The fourth is a "spew".

General consensus puts the spam cancel threshold strictly as a BI of 20.

These cancels have nothing whatsoever to do with the contents of the
message. It doesn't matter if its an advertisement, it doesn't matter
if it's abusive, it doesn't matter whether it's on-topic in the groups
it was posted, it doesn't matter whether the posting is for a "good
cause" or not, if it breaks these thresholds and I detect it, it will be
cancelled.

Therefore, these cancellations are non-content based. They're not
based on _what_ was said, they're based only on _how_ it was said, or
what software was broken.

The "cancel." and cyberspam conventions have been followed.

One copy of the article is appended to the end of this posting.

|Path: ...!nott!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!in1.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!interramp.com!usenet
|From: pp00...@interramp.com
|Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.video
|Subject: Free classified advertising database on the Web
|Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 17:39:38 EDT
|Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link
|Lines: 32
|Message-ID: <173938....@ipiws-001.interramp.com>
|NNTP-Posting-Host: ip126.jacksonville.fl.interramp.com
|Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
|
|OVERDRIVE
|
|Overdrive has a Worldwide Classified Advertising
|Database that is available on the Worldwide Web.
|It works just like a newspaper classified advertising
|section and is FREE for all to use. You can post an
|advertisement of your own, update and delete it.
|
|Sections include:
| Announcements and Services
| Training and Education
| Employment
| Financial
| Pets and Livestock
| Computer & Communications Merchandise
| General Merchandise
| Real Estate for Rent
| Real Estate for Sale
| Manufactured Homes
| Transportation
|
|When you enter an Ad, you are prompted for a password.
|When the record is created, you receive the record
|id for your ad. Later, you may update or delete that
|ad using the combination of your password and record
|id.
|
|Web travelers can search for Ads based on Classified
|Section, price, manufacturer, model, etc.
|
|OVERDRIVE can be found at http://www.ipworld.com
|
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